NB ability Path of Darkness...

Julianos · May 2015

Needs a stamina morph

F7sus4 · May 2015

* Needs a new skill in the place.

PBpsy · May 2015

No, All NB skills should be magicka like in the beginning and a dumb rogue class should be added to the game.

Julianos · May 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

No, All NB skills should be magicka like in the beginning and a dumb rogue class should be added to the game.

why ?

it would be terrible for bow play

i think stamina morphs are must for melee classes

TheBull · May 2015

Man I wish the skill was useful... All it needs is a dmg boost.

F7sus4 · May 2015

TheBull wrote: »

Man I wish the skill was useful... All it needs is a dmg boost.

They already boosted it by 33%. Come on, Sorcs have Liquid Lightning and what the freak is this?

Julianos · May 2015

TheBull wrote: »

Man I wish the skill was useful... All it needs is a dmg boost.

yea especially if you are pure stamina its pretty useless and NB is the only class that has no AOE

Julianos · May 2015

right now im level 23 and all attirbutes on stamina wearing night silence and ashen grip sets 5/4 my suprise attack hits for 1700 and ambush hits for 1400 but path of darkness hits for 57 every 0.5 LOL and its my only class AOE cmooon zos

reften · May 2015

one of the worst skills in game...I've respec'd at least a dozens times and have tried it...never found any use for it. Complete waste of a skill slot...not to mention skill points

PBpsy · May 2015

Axorn wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Man I wish the skill was useful... All it needs is a dmg boost.

yea especially if you are pure stamina its pretty useless and NB is the only class that has no AOE

Really? No AOE?. You just did say that. The two best non weap AOEs in the game and the class has no AOEs. You learn new crap everyday even after about 800h played on a Nb.

Araxleon · May 2015

I vote add a new skill in its place and make it magicka.

Julianos · May 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Man I wish the skill was useful... All it needs is a dmg boost.

yea especially if you are pure stamina its pretty useless and NB is the only class that has no AOE

Really? No AOE?. You just did say that. The two best non weap AOEs in the game and the class has no AOEs. You learn new crap everyday even after about 800h played on a Nb.

please enlight me with your 800h playtime whats the NB's best non weapon AOEs for stamina build ??!!?!'^!'^'^%+&+%/ if you talking about power extraction i havent unlocked yet. but for stamina build path of darkness is no aoe its useless.Also i said im only level 23 if you know better then you should explain like a man or just stop posting

Yasha · May 2015

oren74 wrote: »

one of the worst skills in game...I've respec'd at least a dozens times and have tried it...never found any use for it. Complete waste of a skill slot...not to mention skill points

I said this way back at launch and people replied that it was a L2p issue and the skill was just fine.....

PBpsy · May 2015

Axorn wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

Axorn wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Man I wish the skill was useful... All it needs is a dmg boost.

yea especially if you are pure stamina its pretty useless and NB is the only class that has no AOE

Really? No AOE?. You just did say that. The two best non weap AOEs in the game and the class has no AOEs. You learn new crap everyday even after about 800h played on a Nb.

please enlight me with your 800h playtime whats the NB's best non weapon AOEs for stamina build ??!!?!'^!'^'^%+&+%/ if you talking about power extraction i havent unlocked yet. but for stamina build path of darkness is no aoe its useless.Also i said im only level 23 if you know better then you should explain like a man or just stop posting

Somebody using "the man shiz" the true mark of an internet tough guy. How amusing.I will stop posting when I will be banned thank you very much.
If you didn't unlock power extraction /sap essence maybe you should abstain form talking about the NB AOE capabilities until you do.
Path of darkness was and never was meant to be AOE but a mobility/escape it still fulfills it's limited role quite well.

SeptimusDova · May 2015

My NB has ADHD and Sap Essence is sparkly and distracts her more than Squirrels. Even after everything is dead she is still playing with it. Until she remember's her Ultimate Soul Tether she likes the noise and red glow. But her best fun is when some one has a mob or boss where they want them then she pops Mass Hysteria it's so fun for her to watch them run around trying to chase each other.Refreshing Path has its uses its situational. I use it when I'm herding up Welwas for mats. Round them up cast it and run around in circles Sapping Essence- LA-Swallow Soul- Steel tornado until my character and I are both dizzy.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · May 2015

Axorn wrote: »

right now im level 23 and all attirbutes on stamina wearing night silence and ashen grip sets 5/4 my suprise attack hits for 1700 and ambush hits for 1400 but path of darkness hits for 57 every 0.5 LOL and its my only class AOE cmooon zos

Dude my magic build with Twisted Path hit for 90~ it's a complete joke of a power. It was not made for damage it was made as a speed buff for stealth players but that was when only the caster could see it not everyone can see it and it pops you out of stealth to cast.

This power's original intention is so far removed they need to make it a self targeted speed buff like Lightning Form or give it real damage cause really.

PBpsy · May 2015

SeptimusDova wrote: »

My NB has ADHD and Sap Essence is sparkly and distracts her more than Squirrels. Even after everything is dead she is still playing with it. Until she remember's her Ultimate Soul Tether she likes the noise and red glow. But her best fun is when some one has a mob or boss where they want them then she pops Mass Hysteria it's so fun for her to watch them run around trying to chase each other.Refreshing Path has its uses its situational. I use it when I'm herding up Welwas for mats. Round them up cast it and run around in circles Sapping Essence- LA-Swallow Soul- Steel tornado until my character and I are both dizzy.

Lol. My main does exactly the same. Isn't it awesomely awesome.Siphoning NBs the best NBs ever

SeptimusDova · May 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

Lol. My main does exactly the same. Isn't it awesomely awesome.Siphoning NBs the best NBs ever

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We should get a title for that Like Ballerina or something Keebler has twirled so many times I think she needs new shoes. And knees. Siphoning has saved her bacon more than once. And she has learnt not to cast refreshing path near a cliff edge.

helediron · May 2015

I am using Refreshing Path on my NB mage tank build. It triggers Shadow Barrier resistance buff, gives same DoT/HoT and triggers Valkyn meteors. The speed buff helps to run to casters and bash them silent. For tanking the skill is so good combo that i keep it on my main bar.

The skill is not good enough for DPS purposes. I wouldn't mind at all if they boost it another 33% or 100%. IIRC it ticks 300-500, which is low on today's stardards. Adding extra 20% healing per mob like Sap would be good.

septvestige · May 2015

I tried it and it sux.

- It needs to be ground targeted because it pops at random places.

- It needs to be a longer rectangular shape because having a speed buff in that small area is pointless. What are you running from? Does anyone tried to catch how much sec that speed buff last from one end to the another? So much for escsping utility and running around in circles is pointless. Most skill (if not all) are in hitrange anyway.

- as for the dot and the hot they are not as good as other skills so can't compete with them and trust me you won't have space on your bars for a skill that can't compete with others. Waste of time and xp drop it like it's hot imo!

Darkonflare15 · May 2015

Hmm.. I guess everybody different. I use this as an assist utility skill.

It has a speed boost
It activates the defense passive
It can be use as an assist Aoe
It is useful for ganking
Mobility
Morph is good for assist healing.
It is a good for ganking stronger enemies in pve. Like champions in public dungeons when you solo.

I have use this skill to survive dungeons. It allows me quickly get pass damaging fires while providing some healing on top of that. It damages enemies while I am evading enemies and regaining some of resources. . It works well with other skills. They have buff this skill so many times that it makes sense that this skill is use to assist with healing or dps of other skills while provide a speed boost. Instead of being a direct damage boost aoe like everybody wants it to be.
This skill does what is suppose to and does not need to change and is not one of the useless skills since this has plenty of utility unlike some skills.

The only skill in the Nightblade class that needs to change is Agony. It does not siphoning anything. It does not fit with the skill line. One morph is ineffective in pve and it does not work on multiple enemies or bosses and it can be blocked. They increase the time of the skill and the only usefulness of the skill is for people to cc break it. So I do not think ZOS know what to do with the skill.

dodgehopper_ESO · May 2015

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

Hmm.. I guess everybody different. I use this as an assist utility skill.
It has a speed boost

It activates the defense passive

It can be use as an assist Aoe

It is useful for ganking

Mobility

Morph is good for assist healing.

It is a good for ganking stronger enemies in pve. Like champions in public dungeons when you solo.

I have use this skill to survive dungeons. It allows me quickly get pass damaging fires while providing some healing on top of that. It damages enemies while I am evading enemies and regaining some of resources. . It works well with other skills. They have buff this skill so many times that it makes sense that this skill is use to assist with healing or dps of other skills while provide a speed boost. Instead of being a direct damage boost aoe like everybody wants it to be.
This skill does what is suppose to and does not need to change and is not one of the useless skills since this has plenty of utility unlike some skills.

The only skill in the Nightblade class that needs to change is Agony. It does not siphoning anything. It does not fit with the skill line. One morph is ineffective in pve and it does not work on multiple enemies or bosses and it can be blocked. They increase the time of the skill and the only usefulness of the skill is for people to cc break it. So I do not think ZOS know what to do with the skill.

I agree, Agony is pretty awful. Last time there was a free respect I didn't even bother putting points into it or its morphs. If it were instant cast it MIGHT be useful, and if it had a morph that hit 3 targets or such it might be useful. As it stands it reminds me something Austin Powers once said about easily escapable traps. Your character raises his hands for what is an eternity in pvp. You could die 3 times before Agony fires. Horrible, Horrible ability.

Atarax · May 2015

Surprised at this thread, as a tank build this ability is decent. Damages in an aoe, gives you better mobility, and heals you at the same time while triggering your armor buff.

Not a stellar ability, but still one I slot regularly, and I can solo lower crag delvs, and will work on DSA next.

AlnilamE · May 2015

...is my new favourite ability! (Well, at least the refreshing path morph is).

It's a life-saver in the Dwemer stage in DSA, and I'll have to try it on Nerien'eth next time I'm in vCoH.

As for Agony, oddly enough I just started using it a week ago when a few guildies were running the tier 1 dungeons on alts and none of us was a tank. I got it on my level 15 NB and used it to stun the mob that the tank would usually hold while we took care of the rest of the trash away from them. It worked really well.

Have since then got it for my main NB and used it in a couple of situations in DSA (stun caster on one side of the field while you deal with the other side), with some pretty good results.

There are a couple of skills that I overlooked for the longest time, and I'm working on getting them all leveled up now so I can try different things.

daswahnsinn · May 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

No, All NB skills should be magicka like in the beginning and a dumb rogue class should be added to the game.

So than why have stamina? Dk's are more for magicka, Templars more magicka sided, Sorcorers obiviosly not a good choice for stamina. So why have any other armor outside of light if all classes are better off using magicka? I could be wrong, and probably will get some sort of shi__y feedback by someone or trolled on but shouldn't there be an option for stamina vs magicka?

AlnilamE · May 2015

TommyGoodgone wrote: »

What are you running from?

Off the top of my head:

- The red robot in DSA
- The circle cast by the spider boss in vCoH (I call her Rumpelstielzkin)
- Nerien'eth's big AoE in vCoH
- Towards the blue or the red circle at Rillis in vBC

And don't underestimate the DoT. It's small, but it takes no time to cast and adds to your DPS.

AlnilamE · May 2015

oops. Wrong thread.

Shunravi · May 2015

daswahnsinn wrote: »

PBpsy wrote: »

No, All NB skills should be magicka like in the beginning and a dumb rogue class should be added to the game.

So than why have stamina? Dk's are more for magicka, Templars more magicka sided, Sorcorers obiviosly not a good choice for stamina. So why have any other armor outside of light if all classes are better off using magicka? I could be wrong, and probably will get some sort of shi__y feedback by someone or trolled on but shouldn't there be an option for stamina vs magicka?

It's called weapons.

eliisra · May 2015

I use that skill all the time on my NB tanking in PvE, back when it was magicka built. Awesome skill for that purpose. Refreshing Path gives you consistent healing, speed and it proc's Shadow passive for more mitigations. It's not a dps skill clearly, the DoT is sorta pathetic. It's rather a utility/jack of all trade skill.

It's a pointless skill for a stamina build ofc. Also why I dont slot it any more. But stamina NB's have amazing AoE with Caltrops, Power Extraction + bow or DW. So it's not as if I really need a cone DoT.

I still think the other morph, Twisting Path, could do a little better dmg. Because unlike stamblades, the last remaining magicka NB's have pretty *** AoE.

TheSunAlsoRises · May 2015

i also use this for tanking and even dps. mobility + armour buff.

septvestige · May 2015

I read the comments and I gave another chance of this.
I have a kiting magicka NB build and I always had problem that all the awesome dots I can use are requiring facing the target and it's difficult to kite that way. Well the dot still sux and the speed buff is too short but it can be useful for procing the passive deffence bonus as you wrote. Even if it's just 4 sec in light armor. That deffence bonus can be useful. Combining that with some hot with the refreshing morph. It worth to revisit the skills usefulness. Of course it's still very little gain and you have to sacrifice something on your bar in return but everybody have to decide what's best for his playstyle. I will give it a try.

Well that's how these discussions can be useful.