Console - You went ahead and said it ZOS and you're sticking to it?

Sandmanninja · May 2015

Isn't there a voice disguiser on the xbox? I don't console so I don't know.
Think it was implemented to make kids sound less like kids (for their safety)

JWKe · May 2015

I personally think it would bring more live to the towns. It would also help with immersion if they had a "voice proximity" mechanic... It is however an immersion breaker if someone were to be playing ROAR- Katy Perry on their mic.

Uberkull · May 2015

Egonieser wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

So because of a lack of a basic MMO feature like text chat, that's been in MMOs since EQ, we should resort to requiring random players to use mobile devices to communicate?

Does that even make sense?

Oh, that makes perfect sense does it not? Ask that completely random dude who might be a murderer or stalker for all you know for his number, thus giving away yours and enjoy that public dungeon of yours! (sarcasm intended, obviously)

Glad i don't play consoles, gives me the shudders when I think what they consider "normal"

Yeah, exactly. That's even a better point you made. There really is no safe option to text chat with other random players outside the game. This just gets dumb and dumber the more I try to accept this poor decision.

Uberkull · May 2015

StaticWax wrote: »

Or you could just, you know... talk.

You don't get it. And if you don't care t read the thread, and the other ones about this issue, well...then you'll continue not to get it.

Maddhawk · May 2015

zachary4828 wrote: »

On top of that I know you play WoW and I want you to imagine something. Moongaurd server: Goldshire Inn with voice chat. Elder Scrolls console will make that vision a reality.

/shudder

NadiusMaximus · May 2015

Lol, will it have split screen?

PBpsy · May 2015

But guys think about how immersed one will feel using only voice chat. Just like we on PC were immersed by the immersive minimalist nonfunctionalist noninformationalist UI. it'll be glorious.

Uberkull · May 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

But guys think about how immersed one will feel using only voice chat. Just like we on PC were immersed by the immersive minimalist nonfunctionalist noninformationalist UI. it'll be glorious.

I'm more impressed that you got to 5 stars even with that signature.

Cherryblossom · May 2015

zachary4828 wrote: »

I understand that you are a PC bro, but you are really going to love it here in console land. We already have a long history of games with large scale PvP and voice chat is amazing once you get used to it.

There is a reason the best PC PvP teams and guilds use voice chat while general chat is filled with, "OMG this group of five dudes is killing EVERYONE!! Someone please he.... aaaarrrghghhhh."

On top of that I know you play WoW and I want you to imagine something. Moongaurd server: Goldshire Inn with voice chat. Elder Scrolls console will make that vision a reality.

When leading a PVP raid, we are dependant on the whole team listening to the leader, following orders as commanded. This is not going to happen with random voices jumping in and out of the chat.

I hope that they make it so voice chat within Group is private, but in zone let's be honest it would be better if you muted it.

How will you sell stuff, I can imagine it now "WTS Warlock Ring VR14" "I'll give you 14k for it" "Nah I'll give 20k" "I'll give you my daughter and a sausage" " I'll sell for 20k" "ok" "who are you" "Spartacus" "no I'm Spartacus" I think you get the drift.....

Heromofo · May 2015

Cherryblossom wrote: »

zachary4828 wrote: »

I understand that you are a PC bro, but you are really going to love it here in console land. We already have a long history of games with large scale PvP and voice chat is amazing once you get used to it.

There is a reason the best PC PvP teams and guilds use voice chat while general chat is filled with, "OMG this group of five dudes is killing EVERYONE!! Someone please he.... aaaarrrghghhhh."

On top of that I know you play WoW and I want you to imagine something. Moongaurd server: Goldshire Inn with voice chat. Elder Scrolls console will make that vision a reality.

When leading a PVP raid, we are dependant on the whole team listening to the leader, following orders as commanded. This is not going to happen with random voices jumping in and out of the chat.

I hope that they make it so voice chat within Group is private, but in zone let's be honest it would be better if you muted it.

How will you sell stuff, I can imagine it now "WTS Warlock Ring VR14" "I'll give you 14k for it" "Nah I'll give 20k" "I'll give you my daughter and a sausage" " I'll sell for 20k" "ok" "who are you" "Spartacus" "no I'm Spartacus" I think you get the drift.....

I plan to run around and do this:

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

I'm curious if anyone complaining plays games on console online.

There are few times (on Xbox) where voice chat is an issue
Much less using voice chat compared to issues with text chat on PC

Heromofo · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm curious if anyone complaining plays games on console online.

There are few times (on Xbox) where voice chat is an issue

Destiny does it fine i dont think the pc players will get this bro.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm curious if anyone complaining plays games on console online.

There are few times (on Xbox) where voice chat is an issue

Destiny does it fine i dont think the pc players will get this bro.

I'm definitely on Destiny and Diablo 3 until June but mostly on Destiny since last nights expansion update/release

Tallowby · May 2015

Acrolas wrote: »

There's no chance for custom voice channels at all?

That way, instead of talking over all of Tiny Chat with their mics on all the time, you're just talking to the six or eight people in your "room" that press to talk?

I like the idea of small-scale invited voice chat over the text box, but if it's a constant flow of loud 12 year old girls singing pop songs and 13 year old boys using every *** word in the book all the time, you may as well just rename this to The Elder Scrolls Cluster ***.

Hopefully somebody just invents a phone app that acts like a dedicated text box for the console players to use.

First off... consoles have a global chat/party feature built in already. Yes you can join the main room/zone chat but most will party up into groups up to 32 players per group. No need to find a third party app to enable voice chat like on PC.

As well as the voice chat and party features there is also a built in text chat/text messaging feature built in to console. Yes not the ease of use in ESO as the built in text chat on the PC version but usable in the short term.

Also details for the Console Tablet/Smart Phone App for ESO has not been revealed yet.

BuggeX · May 2015

Heromofo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm curious if anyone complaining plays games on console online.

There are few times (on Xbox) where voice chat is an issue

Destiny does it fine i dont think the pc players will get this bro.

god this hurt in my eyes....

Heromofo · May 2015

BuggeX wrote: »

Heromofo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I'm curious if anyone complaining plays games on console online.

There are few times (on Xbox) where voice chat is an issue

Destiny does it fine i dont think the pc players will get this bro.

god this hurt in my eyes....

Nah lol this does it for me

StaticWax · May 2015

uberkull wrote: »

StaticWax wrote: »

Or you could just, you know... talk.

You don't get it. And if you don't care t read the thread, and the other ones about this issue, well...then you'll continue not to get it.

Oh I get it there, guy. It's just that your point of view is unimpressive.

You're acting like it's impossible to accomplish every social task associated in an mmo without your precious chat pane.

Well, it's not impossible, it's just different. You're going to have to think outside the box a bit.

You can do it.

Zazaaji · May 2015

StaticWax wrote: »

You're acting like it's impossible to accomplish every social task associated in an mmo [...] Well, it's not impossible, it's just different. You're going to have to think outside the box a bit.

You can do it.

@StaticWax
Jumping into this thread here to answer/talk to you about that statement:
Solo wise, yes it's possible. As well as any "social task" that doesn't require fast/quick communications. However, how the heck am I supposed to group effectively with ANYONE when I need to repeat myself 5+ times before anyone understands my thick accent?

Once that concern is addressed, I will be happy to accept voice chat. As it stands, I'm pretty sure that I really won't have any method of communicating with anyone in a group of any kind.
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NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

Zazaaji wrote: »

StaticWax wrote: »

You're acting like it's impossible to accomplish every social task associated in an mmo [...] Well, it's not impossible, it's just different. You're going to have to think outside the box a bit.

You can do it.

@StaticWax
Jumping into this thread here to answer/talk to you about that statement:
Solo wise, yes it's possible. As well as any "social task" that doesn't require fast/quick communications. However, how the heck am I supposed to group effectively with ANYONE when I need to repeat myself 5+ times before anyone understands my thick accent?

Once that concern is addressed, I will be happy to accept voice chat. As it stands, I'm pretty sure that I really won't have any method of communicating with anyone in a group of any kind.
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Why do you think that you're alone. Many people have different accents. It's really not as big of a problem as you're making it and the more you talk to others the better you'd be able to articulate. Avoiding talking to others only hurts yourself in the long run.

When I began MMO games on PC in 1998 I couldn't type. Never learned but now it's no issue and I type faster than the average gamer

Zazaaji · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Why do you think that you're alone. Many people have different accents. It's really as big of a problem and the more you talk to others the better you'd be able to articulate. Avoiding talking to others only hurts yourself

It'll still be years before I loose my accent. That's an extremely slow process. We will be up to "The Elder Scrolls 8: Fallen Daggers from the Sky's Rim floating through the Morrow Wind" by the time that happens.

As for just doing it it'll work with friends sure, as they'll have the patience/understanding to help, and I'm sure I will be grouping with them, but what about late night hours when none of my friends are online and I'm forced to group with random people to finish a quest/dungeon/etc? That happens extremely frequently, my staying up much later than them.
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Davadin · May 2015

BTW, these lines exists in User Settings.ini file.......

SET VoiceChatAutoJoinChannels.2 "0"
SET VoiceChatEnabled.3 "1"

What's that all about?

emre.as.aslanb16_ESO · May 2015

Oh my god, can't wait for all the 11 year olds screaming into their 4$ xbox headsets, yelling inappropriate stuff...

nastuug · May 2015

StaticWax wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

StaticWax wrote: »

Or you could just, you know... talk.

You don't get it. And if you don't care t read the thread, and the other ones about this issue, well...then you'll continue not to get it.

Oh I get it there, guy. It's just that your point of view is unimpressive.

You're acting like it's impossible to accomplish every social task associated in an mmo without your precious chat pane.

Well, it's not impossible, it's just different. You're going to have to think outside the box a bit.

You can do it.

I see what you did there.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

Zazaaji wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Why do you think that you're alone. Many people have different accents. It's really as big of a problem and the more you talk to others the better you'd be able to articulate. Avoiding talking to others only hurts yourself

It'll still be years before I loose my accent. That's an extremely slow process. We will be up to "The Elder Scrolls 8: Fallen Daggers from the Sky's Rim floating through the Morrow Wind" by the time that happens.

As for just doing it it'll work with friends sure, as they'll have the patience/understanding to help, and I'm sure I will be grouping with them, but what about late night hours when none of my friends are online and I'm forced to group with random people to finish a quest/dungeon/etc? That happens extremely frequently, my staying up much later than them.
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Don't focus on loosing your accent but rather focus on making sure you're speaking to your specific audience in a way that you are clearly understood. If you're really going to communicate, your voice is just as important as your typing.

You gotta spend time on both if you want to effectively communicate. (This is waaay bigger than any game)
Immersion takes a very short time but trying to tip toe or slow walk into it will take years.

I played college football with a deaf guy and two guys where English was their second language.
Immersion allowed us to effectively communicate in 30 days after pre season camp.

It's just up to the people or person.
By all means if you want to just type...that's fine but if I can free you up from your thinking that it'll take years....don't accept that. Even kids do it in less than 9 months with no structure

Davadin · May 2015

emre.as.aslanb16_ESO wrote: »

Oh my god, can't wait for all the 11 year olds screaming into their 4$ xbox headsets, yelling inappropriate stuff...

have fun, console peasants.

now, what i want is group chat.

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

Davadin wrote: »

BTW, these lines exists in User Settings.ini file.......

SET VoiceChatAutoJoinChannels.2 "0"
SET VoiceChatEnabled.3 "1"

What's that all about?

Voice chat is coming to PC. It's being marketed even in the new promo commercials/videos
Maybe they will announce this today via Twitch Live

Attorneyatlawl · May 2015

Grim1216 wrote: »

StaticWax wrote: »

Good. Looking forward to it.

Not sure what all the melodrama is about.

No option for chat box is the issue for many. We have the option on PC , we have chat box which we can communicate with the zone and set up groups, trade items , sell crafts and motifs. We set up some great pick up groups in PvP without using mics , Pick up groups for quick instances where we can all type things out easy. AND then we have the option to download programs people have been using for ages like teamspeak and ventrillo to communicate with guildies and pro pvping groups.

Now on console you dont have option, you have voice chat and the mail system. Not everyone speaks a perfect english , not everyone is accepting of how people sound over the mic , you can go so far as back to Halo to see how console community is. How does one go about the trade system in this MMO? How do we go about building into a large guild , not have everyone spam yell at the same time , i mean guild chat is a huge issue for me without chat box, my guild can have vent sessions and sometimes theyre too much when drunk i just continue chatting with them or other guildies over chat box rather then continue to listen. I cant do that on console.

Now im not mad or hating but can you supporters explain how this will work ? id like to explain to my friends how we can play on console without the most common feature in console mmos. Also im not sure if rumor or true, did Zenimax really eliminate display of character names in place with Console account name? If so then how does that work for the Role players in a MMORPG (Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game)?

Yeah, welcome to the same argument we've made as PC players for over a year on basics like nameplates or buff and debuff icon options. Just as typical as a chat box for an MMORPG and essential. They just took it a bit further with the console version by also removing the chat box.

Attorneyatlawl · May 2015

PBpsy wrote: »

But guys think about how immersed one will feel using only voice chat. Just like we on PC were immersed by the immersive minimalist nonfunctionalist noninformationalist UI. it'll be glorious.

You're right, by God! This whole time...... everyone, you, me, we all just didn't get it. All it took was removing the only mostly working thing (text still fades even if the box is set not to.... /why?) in the otherwise barely there UI to show us the light.

Now we all see clearly now, living in blissful ignorance of the gameplay with no interface to obstruct the view!

(In other words, I agree with your point.)

NewBlacksmurf · May 2015

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According to those who are upset about text chat on console...this game won't work and I guess they feel other games haven't worked for years as well.

ZOS took off the training wheels....let's ride out or get left behind

nastuug · May 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Davadin wrote: »

BTW, these lines exists in User Settings.ini file.......

SET VoiceChatAutoJoinChannels.2 "0"
SET VoiceChatEnabled.3 "1"

What's that all about?

Voice chat is coming to PC. It's being marketed even in the new promo commercials/videos
Maybe they will announce this today via Twitch Live

First damn thing I turn off when it goes live, lol.