Guild vs Guild Tournament

Observant · May 2015

Armitas wrote: »

I don't have a templar but I think it would be fun to have a laser tag free 4 all. The only skills allowed are lasers (Radiant Destruction and soul Assault). You can pot for a heal but thats it, lasers only.

Nobody would die because the DPS is so low

Jules · May 2015

Crown wrote: »

Bonus game of capture the flag - we put one person from each faction (I vote Sarenvog as AD flag!) at the end of a field (imagine a big triangle with the flag person at the points of the triangle) about 50 yards apart. This person will be naked (no gear equipped) and not allowed to move (blocking allowed). All three teams start on their flag. The winner is determined when both of their opponents' flags are dead, and they have stacked back on their own flag (who is alive). Resurrections allowed. There will be strategies involved of who to send as attackers vs defenders and to which side. You're not out until all your team are dead and your flag is dead.

This sounds really fun.

Edit: Also, I agree with whoever said adding the LOS element would be better than fighting in an entirely open field. I think using environmental elements allows the guilds to showcase strategy and timing- atleast moreso than just running at one another in an open field does. It makes it more challenging if your opponent has environmental factors that are able to shield your view of them.

Of course, it would have to be neutral ground, no keeps or outposts.

Sanct16 · May 2015

I dont like the 16v16=>4v4 idea. Would be a nice idea for another kind of tournament tho but in a guild v guild tournament your groupplay as a guild should determine the winner imo.

Regarding the location i dont think it matters too much.

JDar · May 2015

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

The idea in itself is a good.

What I dont like about it is : to put teams of people who totally hate each other in a structured / fair / respectful environment and expect them to act in those manner.

I've tried something similar before, thinking it would be fair-play and respectful. Ended up being a who-can-***-farther kind of thing with trash-talk and zero respect. People in this game seems to have a lot to proove and use those instead of doing so on the field, playing the real game, which is detrimental to any type of 'sporting' event like that.

Didn't you ever see White Men Can't Jump? It will be comedy gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n3p6KSVcN8

JDar · May 2015

Is any one taking bets on this yet

IxSTALKERxI · May 2015

Crown wrote: »

While I have peoples' attention here, I would greatly appreciate any help anyone can provide for this problem:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/171717/battle-spirit-buff-not-being-applied

I've not been able to PvP for a few days (I'm not normally outside my home campaign so have no idea how long this has been the case for me).

I get this problem non-stop. I've been trying to lead groups with 13k health lmao.

aco5712 · May 2015

buying 11xNB w/ fear + 4xtemplar w/mutagen + jesus beam

Xiphyla · May 2015

4v4 , 6v6 , 8v8 , 10v10 ,and lastly 12v12 should be the max. 16v16 is just . . . . . . :P

RadioheadSh0t · May 2015

Xiphyla wrote: »

4v4 , 6v6 , 8v8 , 10v10 ,and lastly 12v12 should be the max. 16v16 is just . . . . . . :P

What's wrong with 16v16? I'm for an 'All of the above' type of competition.

It's like having different weight classes in boxing or UFC. Different belts for different weight classes.

Xiphyla · May 2015

RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

Xiphyla wrote: »

4v4 , 6v6 , 8v8 , 10v10 ,and lastly 12v12 should be the max. 16v16 is just . . . . . . :P

What's wrong with 16v16? I'm for an 'All of the above' type of competition.

It's like having different weight classes in boxing or UFC. Different belts for different weight classes.

Didn't say if there's anything wrong with 16v16. I'm just voicing my views. Most of the guilds mostly only got enough to fill 8-12 unless those are the really big guilds around. Nevertheless , those big guilds can do 16v16.

Aldarenn · May 2015

No meteors should be an included rule.

Leovolao · May 2015

#nonirn

Mystikkal · May 2015

Can we keep this thread focused? I actually want to see this take off. Crown, do you have the time to get this organized?

Let's throw some times out there. How about Sunday May 31st at 2 PM Est? It would be 11 AM for west coasters, but Euros could still play.

We need stream volunteers.. anyone?

Crown · May 2015

@Observant I don't believe that we need a poll. Right now I'm leaning towards opening sign-ups for 12 person and 6 person teams with a target date of 2 weekends from now. To accommodate NA and Europeans, mid afternoon on Saturday is likely the best choice. If there are enough Oceanic players interested, we could have another round at a more convenient time for them.

The rules will be relatively simple (no siege, any gear you want, any combination of classes/players you want) for this first go round, and we can see how it turns out for future ones. It would be nice to make this a monthly event.

ToRelax · May 2015

Crown wrote: »

@Observant I don't believe that we need a poll. Right now I'm leaning towards opening sign-ups for 12 person and 6 person teams with a target date of 2 weekends from now. To accommodate NA and Europeans, mid afternoon on Saturday is likely the best choice. If there are enough Oceanic players interested, we could have another round at a more convenient time for them.

The rules will be relatively simple (no siege, any gear you want, any combination of classes/players you want) for this first go round, and we can see how it turns out for future ones. It would be nice to make this a monthly event.

Set a time that most interested players on one server are okay with, if someone on the other server wants to see the fights, and the involved players want to show them, then they can record them anyway.

Oughash · May 2015

Crown wrote: »

@Observant I don't believe that we need a poll. Right now I'm leaning towards opening sign-ups for 12 person and 6 person teams with a target date of 2 weekends from now. To accommodate NA and Europeans, mid afternoon on Saturday is likely the best choice. If there are enough Oceanic players interested, we could have another round at a more convenient time for them.

The rules will be relatively simple (no siege, any gear you want, any combination of classes/players you want) for this first go round, and we can see how it turns out for future ones. It would be nice to make this a monthly event.

This sounds good -- keep us updated on how/when to sign up.

Crown · May 2015

I was intending to stream it for those who want to watch.

Saturday June 6th (2 weeks from tomorrow) at 2pm Eastern seems reasonable.

I'll open a new thread for those who want to sign up later this evening once I write up the rest of the details.

DoctorSwampy · May 2015

Crown wrote: »

I was intending to stream it for those who want to watch.

Saturday May 6th (2 weeks from tomorrow) at 2pm Eastern seems reasonable.

I'll open a new thread for those who want to sign up later this evening once I write up the rest of the details.

May 6th has already passed, do you mean June?

Crown · May 2015

DoctorSwampy wrote: »

May 6th has already passed, do you mean June?

Yes.. Yes I do..

(Edited previous post to fix it)

DoctorSwampy · May 2015

Crown wrote: »

DoctorSwampy wrote: »

May 6th has already passed, do you mean June?

Yes.. Yes I do..

(Edited previous post to fix it)

Looking out for ya, Crown. ;P
I'm stoked for this idea, and I'll definitely talk to my guilds about it

ZOS_UlyssesW · May 2015

Hello folks.
We've removed several comments that were derailing the thread. We ask that everyone stay focused on the topic at hand, which is the Guild vs. Guild tournament suggested by the OP. If you wish to discuss the issues with the Nirnhoned trait, we ask that you please do so in one of the existing threads about that topic. Thank you for your understanding.

Rylana · May 2015

Group size requirement is way too large for Aldmeri Vice, so we will be unable to participate, but if you ever do something like 8v8 let us know and we might be able to cobble together that many. (4v4 and 6v6 is more our style)

However, if Decibel or Tertiary puts together a team, some of our members might be available to pad out the groups (like the ones that are in both vice and DB/TM), etc.

Just cant do Vice alone, sadly =/

Manoekin · May 2015

Sounds like fun. Hope I'll get to participate.

WTS heals PST!

Also if you need a guild for this I can make one, or help with any of it just let me know bro.

olemanwinter · May 2015

Rylana wrote: »

Group size requirement is way too large

I agree. I have a social PvX guild of about 200 members that would love to participate, but 16 is way too much. It's a real challenge to get 12 for a trial.

8v8 Sounds about right. That's 2 members of each class.

When I played GW and GW2, the structured pvp was always 4v4, which seemed a little small because if 1 of the 4 was somehow flawed or week in his build, there was no redundancy at all to pick up the slack.

I would like to see it 6v6 or 8v8.

6v6 might be even better because it would be more than 1 of each class, but would require more "decisions" and "risk/reward" when building a group.

Crown · May 2015

The original intent was to simulate what we experience in Cyrodiil. I tend to run 16+, so didn't give enough thought to the smaller groups and guilds - though setting group size too small would also hurt the groups / guilds that almost always field 12+ (as they're not used to smaller gank-style groups). I freely admit I'm not a great ganker - I tend to run builds that support the group and make up for something that is lacking with whatever composition we happen to have.

What I believe I'll do tomorrow is write up the full details, and start a thread for ONLY sign ups (this thread will be used to continue discussions etc). Groups can sign up and list the size groups that they are able to field, so once a few days (maybe a week) has passed, I can put together a list / brackets for the ones that have enough entries to be viable.

Example:
Lemons sign up for a group of 4, 6, 8, 12, and 16 (effectively all the options).
Strawberries sign up for a group of 4, 6 and 8
Blueberries sign up for a group of 8, 12 and 16

In the above example, provided I have the inclination to manage everything, Lemons may fight Strawberries in the 4, 6, and 8 brackets, Lemons may fight Blueberries in the 8, 12 and 16 brackets, and Strawberries may fight Blueberries in only the 8 bracket. If something like this turns out to be the case, the probability is high that there will only be an 8v8 bracket as everyone can field a team of that size (and I don't know how much effort will need to go into managing it). Future tourneys (if this one works out well) may have more brackets.

@ZOS_UlyssesW is there any possibility of getting a ZOS participant to watch and make sure that there are no cheaters (stealthed healers not part of the team or some such) that the rest of us can not see?

loki547 · May 2015

Rylana wrote: »

Group size requirement is way too large for Aldmeri Vice, so we will be unable to participate, but if you ever do something like 8v8 let us know and we might be able to cobble together that many. (4v4 and 6v6 is more our style)

However, if Decibel or Tertiary puts together a team, some of our members might be available to pad out the groups (like the ones that are in both vice and DB/TM), etc.

Just cant do Vice alone, sadly =/

Sounds like a pretty sad excuse to me

Rylana · May 2015

loki547 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Group size requirement is way too large for Aldmeri Vice, so we will be unable to participate, but if you ever do something like 8v8 let us know and we might be able to cobble together that many. (4v4 and 6v6 is more our style)

However, if Decibel or Tertiary puts together a team, some of our members might be available to pad out the groups (like the ones that are in both vice and DB/TM), etc.

Just cant do Vice alone, sadly =/

Sounds like a pretty sad excuse to me

We only have six active members that PvP, and 2 more that are mostly PvE. What do I do? Pull people out of thin air? go to their house and force them to play ESO again?

O_o

The_Drexill · May 2015

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Xiphyla · May 2015

Crown wrote: »

The original intent was to simulate what we experience in Cyrodiil. I tend to run 16+, so didn't give enough thought to the smaller groups and guilds - though setting group size too small would also hurt the groups / guilds that almost always field 12+ (as they're not used to smaller gank-style groups). I freely admit I'm not a great ganker - I tend to run builds that support the group and make up for something that is lacking with whatever composition we happen to have.

What I believe I'll do tomorrow is write up the full details, and start a thread for ONLY sign ups (this thread will be used to continue discussions etc). Groups can sign up and list the size groups that they are able to field, so once a few days (maybe a week) has passed, I can put together a list / brackets for the ones that have enough entries to be viable.

Example:
Lemons sign up for a group of 4, 6, 8, 12, and 16 (effectively all the options).
Strawberries sign up for a group of 4, 6 and 8
Blueberries sign up for a group of 8, 12 and 16

In the above example, provided I have the inclination to manage everything, Lemons may fight Strawberries in the 4, 6, and 8 brackets, Lemons may fight Blueberries in the 8, 12 and 16 brackets, and Strawberries may fight Blueberries in only the 8 bracket. If something like this turns out to be the case, the probability is high that there will only be an 8v8 bracket as everyone can field a team of that size (and I don't know how much effort will need to go into managing it). Future tourneys (if this one works out well) may have more brackets.

@ZOS_UlyssesW is there any possibility of getting a ZOS participant to watch and make sure that there are no cheaters (stealthed healers not part of the team or some such) that the rest of us can not see?

So firstly , how many per classes is allowed per 6v6 , 8v8 , 10v10 , 12v12 and 16v16 ? (No one want a overstacking of same classes.)
Secondly , Is nirnhoned allowed ? (Since no one can check clearly whether they use nirnhoned or not)

olemanwinter · May 2015

I take it all back. This whole thing seems more like an appendage measuring exercise than anything else.

Recreating what you already experience in Cyrodiil? Why?

Just so it's planned so you know to record it to post on these forums probably.