Nerio wrote: »

Tallowby wrote: »

WHEN THE INFO BLURB STATES TAKE YOUR CHARACTERS, ALL INVENTORIES IN BACKPACK & BANK VAULT TO CONSOLE
Then after the fact...

• The Crowns we paid for won't transfer
• The current state of your toons won't transfer - Traits in progress
• What other bomb do they have left to drop on us.....

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/10375/kw/crown transfer
Last Updated: April 9th

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/28171/kw/Research transfer
Last Updated: April 10th

Both of the things you listed were announced right when the copy went up for sale, not after the fact.

When research time can be up to 60 DAYS, less than 30 days is not enough notice. Also when I purchased the transfer it was before the Research tidbit was posted and the crown info was not easily found.

Here is what I received ON April 9th at 10:59am

You are eligible for The Elder Scrolls® Online: Tamriel Unlimited™ for Console with account copy. You will find it on sale for pre-purchase for $20.00 at account.elderscrollsonline.com/store when logged in using your eligible The Elder Scrolls Online account on April 9, 2015.

This special offer to pre-purchase a digital copy of an Xbox One and/or PlayStation 4 version of the game, will only be available on the store for 30 (thirty) days. After the 30-day period, you will no longer be able to purchase this special digital copy of The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited for console or copy your PC/Mac account to console in any other way.

Please note that if you take part in this offer, your character and account details will not be copied immediately upon pre-purchasing The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited for Console with account copy. Keep an eye on your email for more information on the account copy process as well as your digital game code. For more information on eligibility requirements, transfer restrictions, and redemption instructions please visit help.elderscrollsonline.com.

The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited on the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One will launch worldwide on June 9th, and we can’t wait to see you in Tamriel!

- The Elder Scrolls Online Team

Mettaricana wrote: »

now i question when is the cut off of character progress before it transfers if i lose my vet level up to 14 because progress cut off like a month ago....

I did get an official response that we would be notified before transfer with enough time to remove our guild store listings and return them to inventory before copy is done. From that statement all progress completed by then will transfer

Ojustaboo wrote: »

Tallowby wrote: »

Mettaricana wrote: »

now i question when is the cut off of character progress before it transfers if i lose my vet level up to 14 because progress cut off like a month ago....

I did get an official response that we would be notified before transfer with enough time to remove our guild store listings and return them to inventory before copy is done. From that statement all progress completed by then will transfer

Trouble is that's so open to abuse. What' stopping someone borrowing a ton of money and other items out of their guild bank just so that it gets transferred?

I believe there is a plan to deal with abusers so be warned....

I am loaded to the hilt with crafting materials to take with me, which I farmed myself or bought from the proceeds from farming. This is ok

Your inventory quantities increasing significantly just before copy will draw attention. I hope they can weed out the abusers and not penalize players that belong to 5 trade guilds that get 150 stacks (30x5) of goods back just before the copy. Also those of us that use the mail addon Bounce could have an additional increase in inventory when those bounced mails get emptied.

I would like to know what ZOS' take is on this after I migrate. Can I donate some or most to my guild(s) after I move or will that also be labeled as an "abuser' act?

Tallowby wrote: »

120 stacks (30x5)

lol !

Why not ?

I mean, I personally don't care since I'm not going console, but character copy means character copy with all advances, being XP, trophies, achievements, and of course researches. Researches are valuable in time AND in the value of the deconstructed item (which can be quite high when it comes to nirnhoned items) so I don't see why they could not be "reimbursed" both the item and the time.

Of course they would be reimbursed on console only, not on PC. And since the item is deconstructed, I don't see any opportunity for abuse (unlike what can be done with gold and items lending).

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

Just to clarify folks - You are wanting a refund on something you are researching on your PC Account as it won't transfer to the Console account - even though you will still have the PC Trait completing research?

IF the stop the research on BOTH accounts, fine, get a refund. But if you are still getting the research completed on PC - not sure you should have a refund

I, like others, ONLY purchased the PC version for the transfer to console. But thanks for you input in nothing that concerns you as you as you have no intention of changing platforms.

Tallowby wrote: »

Just received the official email

Greetings XXXXX,

Thank you for purchasing The Elder Scrolls® Online: Tamriel Unlimited™ for Console with account copy.

Your account will be copied from PC/Mac to console on June 1, 2015, at 10AM EDT. Shortly after your account is copied from PC/Mac to the console of your choice, you will receive your digital game code for The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited.

In preparation for this transfer, please take note of the following:

This is an account copy. Once the copy is complete, your PC characters as well as your console characters will not share any items or progression. They will exist independently of one another.

All entitlements will carry over, including Imperial Edition and Explorer's Pack benefits.

ESO Plus membership status will not carry over. You will need to re-enroll in ESO Plus on your console.

Crowns will not transfer from PC/Mac to console. Any crowns left in your Crown Balance will remain on your PC character. Any items purchased with crowns will transfer to the console version.

Besides crowns, the following will also not transfer: Mail, Guilds, Guild Banks, Friends List, Ignore List, Leaderboards, and Campaign Status.

Upon completion of the account copy, The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited Customer Support team will be unable to restore any characters or items that may have been deleted from the PC/Mac account prior to the transfer.

If you have any questions about The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited for Console with account copy, please visit help.elderscrollsonline.com.

- The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited Team

No mention of crafting trait progression being lost or reset. Still need clarification!

Scroll up. It was confirmed that crafting will not transfer if in progress per the Knowledge Base information that I posted.

I would also conclude that if mats are gone due to a pending research...the mats will not copy but they will also be gone after the copy because they were not present at the time of the copy

It doesn't clarify what happens to research mats but it does specifically say what will be copied so if the item isn't in your inventory or bank, it won't be copied. If research ain't complete, it won't be copied.

I believe that addresses all questions in the thread

Edit: also this

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This screams "buy all the cosmetics you can before June 1st

Yuup.

Also what does this mean exactly?

"Upon completion of the account copy, The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited Customer Support team will be unable to restore any characters or items that may have been deleted from the PC/Mac account prior to the transfer."

Is there a chance things will magically disappear? Like my gold? And ZOS is just going to say "Soooorrrry "

Long story short: The deleted items database isn't getting moved to the console megaservers. If you delete an item or a character prior to the transfer, we can restore it on the PC, but not on your console.

Example:
Bob the Nightblade is created on May 28th, but I decide I don't like how he looks, so I delete him. On June 9th, I decide I really liked Bob and would like to play him on my console. Bob can be restored on the PC, but can't be restored on the console.

Hope that helps!
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Tallowby wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I believe that addresses all questions in the thread

I do not agree... Fully understand that research in progress will not transfer. Still need to know it the piece used in that research will

1. reset to zero and comence on the console
2. be returned to inventory to start research again
3. be lost as well.

This question is assumed answered by you as the last option, but no official documentation answers this question to date. If there is please post a link because I have not seen it.

I just edited my reply.
This is pretty clear now

Tallowby wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

I just edited my reply.
This is pretty clear now

I am not trying to be difficult but where did you find it listed that when you research an item it that item gets listed in the Delete File that won't be transferred?

Am I wrong or is that what you're basing as fact?

Well technically the item is destroyed for research but since there is no way to delete an item without using the destroy selection in this sense your research item that was destroyed should go into the same database if an item was destroyed without research or trying to improve the item.


Go here too: https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/28171/kw/Research transfer

WHEN THE TRANSFER HAPPENS, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO MY CRAFTING RESEARCH THAT IS IN PROGRESS?
Updated 04/10/2015 04:56 PM Published 04/10/2015 04:56 PM
Crafting research in progress at the time of the transfer will be reset on the console copy of the account.


CAN I JUST DELETE ITEMS FROM MY INVENTORY?
Updated 03/16/2015 11:20 AM Published 09/18/2013 02:04 PM
Yes, players may destroy items in their inventories by right-clicking on the item and choosing "Destroy" from the menu. Destroyed items do not earn the player raw materials or money, but destroying something does open up the inventory slot it was occupying.




HOW DO I DO RESEARCH?
Updated 03/16/2015 11:20 AM Published 01/03/2014 03:52 PM
Research is a crafting process for Blacksmithing, Clothing and Woodworking that will help players discover new traits. Traits are specific attributes that will increase some statistics of the players' gear. Traits can be added to an item by including certain gemstones in the recipe while crafting the item.

To start researching a trait, first find a blacksmithing, clothing, or woodworking station and interact with it using [E]. Click on the Research option located on the top right corner of the crafting menu. The Trait Line panel organizes items by category (such as Robe, Shoes, Gloves, etc.). The Trait Progress panel shows which gem resource is necessary for which trait (these are locked until the character has learned them).

Available traits will be flagged as "Researchable" if the player has a corresponding item type in their inventory. Press [R] to research a trait. A new window will pop up, prompting the player to select an item to research. Keep in mind that this will destroy the chosen item. Research has a long cooldown, and only one trait per crafting type can be researched at a time. The cool down is applied per crafting type, so a player can research a trait in Woodworking, Blacksmithing, and Clothing at the same time.

Once the trait has been learned, the gem associated with it can be included in item recipes to add that trait to the final product.

Tallowby wrote: »

The problem I have is with the term 'Reset'

To me that means the research timer is reset to zero.

If it is the way you state then a less ambiguous term should have been used. Like Trait Research in progress will be lost. Then there would not be a debate

Still not pleased with the way this was released.... not clear and definitely not enough warning when research can take up to 60 days.

This is my main gripe with this due to the fact I have purchased trait pieces for the research that will be lost. Since it is the last trait for each item, and in my case Nirnhoned, I am out over 100,000 gold.

And how easy do you think it will be to find those same pieces on console after transfer or be able to afford them if I did?

If the transfer happened 8 days later all the research would be completed OR if the info about this was posted 9 days sooner......

Hey...No one can address your interpretations but I think the thread and staff have addressed all your concerns. This was public prior to the console BETA dating back to April 10, 2015

If ZOS allows 'old' research to carry over to consoles, that would be a big [snip]

Being able to craft 7 piece gear sets while new console players haven't even begun to research would be a too big an advantage. That would make zero sense.

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NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

If ZOS allows 'old' research to carry over to consoles, that would be a big [snip]

Being able to craft 7 piece gear sets while new console players haven't even begun to research would be a too big an advantage. That would make zero sense.

That is already confirmed to exist. The items in question are pending research that may not have completed. All completed research will copy over

I didn't know that. It that's so, it will be as if new console players will be starting 500 meters behind the starting line for a 1,000 meter race.

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NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

If ZOS allows 'old' research to carry over to consoles, that would be a big [snip]

Being able to craft 7 piece gear sets while new console players haven't even begun to research would be a too big an advantage. That would make zero sense.

That is already confirmed to exist. The items in question are pending research that may not have completed. All completed research will copy over

I didn't know that. It that's so, it will be as if new console players will be starting 500 meters behind the starting line for a 1,000 meter race.

Everyone hAd a chance to play on PC and then move over. No one is at any disadvantage

It's a choice

What kind of logic is that? PC and console are two completely different platforms. Like two different countries.

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Same boat as some others here I have 1 or 2 Nirnhoned items that are not going to be finished before the copy date so knowing whether I need to get a guildiee to make another copy for me in case it deletes the item in research would be good to know.

liammozzb16_ESO wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

If ZOS allows 'old' research to carry over to consoles, that would be a big [snip]

Being able to craft 7 piece gear sets while new console players haven't even begun to research would be a too big an advantage. That would make zero sense.

That is already confirmed to exist. The items in question are pending research that may not have completed. All completed research will copy over

I didn't know that. It that's so, it will be as if new console players will be starting 500 meters behind the starting line for a 1,000 meter race.

Everyone hAd a chance to play on PC and then move over. No one is at any disadvantage

It's a choice

i'll be starting @v2 new console players who are getting the game day one will be starting @ lvl1

there is no way thats fair to a new community just starting out

It's fair...and it's a choice given to everyone by ZOS.
You and I both started at level 1 after paying $60-$90 and leveled up just like any new console player will.

They could've decided to buy on PC too or buy a PC buy the game if they didn't have a PC. It doesn't take a high end machine to play this.

Not fair is pre ordering on PC the collectors edition, paying for 4+ months of subs and then paying another $20 to move to console. Vs a console person paying $60-$90 and that's it.

But still all are choices. No one made me pay nor did they make someone who skipped the offer feel cheated as anyone who thought of playing TESO on console knew of the PC transfer offer since Over a year ago

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