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Any word on Necromancy?
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Does anyone know if ZOS has said anything in regards to players being able to be necromancers? I looked around, and the last time they said anything was about a year ago, when they basically said "maybe".
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bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭im holding out hope that spellcrafting will address our concerns on this issue. I hope it will. if not, imma cause a big stink on every forum i can.0 -
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✭I don't think that's planned and will ever be to be honest, but you can try doing this instead
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✭observe necromancy!
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bumping. Please don't intentionally necro old threads with unconstructive posts.]Edited by ZOS_AlanG on May 15, 2015 11:55PM“Whatever.”
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bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »Any word on Necromancy?
Wrong. Don't do it.
seeing as every other installment of the series has allowed it, you have no leg to stand on when calling it 'wrong'0 -
Tierbook✭✭Based off the Data mined info on Spell Crafting I don't think so.
reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2xpn39/data_mining_spellcrafting_what_is_it_and_what_are/0 -
bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Based off the Data mined info on Spell Crafting I don't think so.
reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/2xpn39/data_mining_spellcrafting_what_is_it_and_what_are/
being that its shelfed and not finished, we cant say that for sure0 -
lecarcajou_ESO✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »Any word on Necromancy?
Wrong. Don't do it.
seeing as every other installment of the series has allowed it, you have no leg to stand on when calling it 'wrong'
I was standing on my funny leg... bone... thing.
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✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »Any word on Necromancy?
Wrong. Don't do it.
seeing as every other installment of the series has allowed it, you have no leg to stand on when calling it 'wrong'
Has it been in every other installment? I only recall it being in Skyrim. The trailer which showed a chicken being raised from the dead caused much excitement for that reason.
In Oblivion it was outlawed. In Morrowind it was viewed as horrendous disrespect to ancestors.Edited by Epona222 on May 16, 2015 4:16AMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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rynth✭✭✭✭✭It would be great to have more "evil" builds seems like a recurring theme on all factions with both "good" side and the "evil" side is the over all presence of undead and dead ancestors. You'd think that on par with this there would be classes to go along with this theme. Such as necro for a more "evil" build and shamans for the "lighter" side build both could easily have same counter type spells/skills for each build.When asked what he would do for a Klondike bar. Grand Moff Tarkin said "why I would blow up Alderaan."1
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bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »Any word on Necromancy?
Wrong. Don't do it.
seeing as every other installment of the series has allowed it, you have no leg to stand on when calling it 'wrong'
Has it been in every other installment? I only recall it being in Skyrim. The trailer which showed a chicken being raised from the dead caused much excitement for that reason.
In Oblivion it was outlawed. In Morrowind it was viewed as horrendous disrespect to ancestors.
in both oblivion and morrowind you could obtain necromancy spells. i can name a few off the top of my head
morrowind: Summon greater bonewalker, summon bonelord, summon skeletal minion
Oblivion: Summon skeleton hero, summon gloom wraith, summon lich, summon headless zombie
In skyrim we have the reanimation spells as well as summon wrathman, mistman, and boneman.
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✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »Any word on Necromancy?
Wrong. Don't do it.
seeing as every other installment of the series has allowed it, you have no leg to stand on when calling it 'wrong'
Has it been in every other installment? I only recall it being in Skyrim. The trailer which showed a chicken being raised from the dead caused much excitement for that reason.
In Oblivion it was outlawed. In Morrowind it was viewed as horrendous disrespect to ancestors.
in both oblivion and morrowind you could obtain necromancy spells. i can name a few off the top of my head
morrowind: Summon greater bonewalker, summon bonelord, summon skeletal minion
Oblivion: Summon skeleton hero, summon gloom wraith, summon lich, summon headless zombie
In skyrim we have the reanimation spells as well as summon wrathman, mistman, and boneman.
in each of these installments players were still allowed to option to learn and use it for their purposes
Oh I know there were a few spells - I am not arguing with the request for necromancy in ESO, but it just wasn't exactly easy in games prior to Skyrim tbh, summoning a skeleton is no different than any other type of summoning just with a different skin.
Now Skyrim on the other hand, that actually allowed some sort of necromancy - I remember going through a cave in The Reach and there were a few dead animals and dead bodies around, and I raised some and they raised some - I would like to think we all agree that is better necromancy, and implemented better, than a summon skeleton spell.GM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »lecarcajou_ESO wrote: »Any word on Necromancy?
Wrong. Don't do it.
seeing as every other installment of the series has allowed it, you have no leg to stand on when calling it 'wrong'
Has it been in every other installment? I only recall it being in Skyrim. The trailer which showed a chicken being raised from the dead caused much excitement for that reason.
In Oblivion it was outlawed. In Morrowind it was viewed as horrendous disrespect to ancestors.
in both oblivion and morrowind you could obtain necromancy spells. i can name a few off the top of my head
morrowind: Summon greater bonewalker, summon bonelord, summon skeletal minion
Oblivion: Summon skeleton hero, summon gloom wraith, summon lich, summon headless zombie
In skyrim we have the reanimation spells as well as summon wrathman, mistman, and boneman.
in each of these installments players were still allowed to option to learn and use it for their purposes
Oh I know there were a few spells - I am not arguing with the request for necromancy in ESO, but it just wasn't exactly easy in games prior to Skyrim tbh, summoning a skeleton is no different than any other type of summoning just with a different skin.
Now Skyrim on the other hand, that actually allowed some sort of necromancy - I remember going through a cave in The Reach and there were a few dead animals and dead bodies around, and I raised some and they raised some - I would like to think we all agree that is better necromancy, and implemented better, than a summon skeleton spell.
Truth be told, i preferred the old summon spells to the reanimations.
I especially loved summoning wraiths to deal with enemies i knew did not have enchanted or silver weapons, that was fun to just watch them flail helplessly, unable to hurt the wraith. I also didnt like how, without the vampire dlc, you couldnt summon skeletons.
Everything about magic in TES5 skyrim was dumbed down, and i despised that.
Id prefer a variety of undead to choose from than simply relying on whatever is just lying around.0 -
SeñorCinco✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »in both oblivion and morrowind you could obtain necromancy spells. i can name a few off the top of my head
morrowind: Summon greater bonewalker, summon bonelord, summon skeletal minion
Oblivion: Summon skeleton hero, summon gloom wraith, summon lich, summon headless zombie
In skyrim we have the reanimation spells as well as summon wrathman, mistman, and boneman.
in each of these installments players were still allowed to option to learn and use it for their purposes
That is Conjuration not Necromancy.
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Toon / Mana / WoW or any acronym following "In ___" /
Pets (when referring to summoned Daedra) / Any verbiage to express slang (ie, ending in uz,az,..) / Soul Stone
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BugCollector✭✭✭✭Necromancy shouldn't be a class skill line, but a guild skill line, so it doesn't break class balance, and everyone can use those skills.May knowledge guide you to enlightenment3 -
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✭MornaBaine wrote: »I am still upset that necromancy isn't a thing. Almost as upset as I am at them for abandoning spellcrafting.
They aren't abandoning it (I hope). Last I heard they w ere just pushing it back a bit so they can focus on other, bigger projects (i.e zones probably, since they showed a bunch of new zone videos during the TU announcement video).0 -
Theosis✭✭✭✭SG_Celerrimus wrote: »MornaBaine wrote: »I am still upset that necromancy isn't a thing. Almost as upset as I am at them for abandoning spellcrafting.
They aren't abandoning it (I hope). Last I heard they w ere just pushing it back a bit so they can focus on other, bigger projects (i.e zones probably, since they showed a bunch of new zone videos during the TU announcement video).
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✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »
seeing as every other installment of the series has allowed it, you have no leg to stand on when calling it 'wrong'
Now here we have a difference in interpretation. And I will cheerfully admit my take comes from Morrowind. Necromancy is the foul twisting of the soul and/or body of another by force (magical) and without consent (in the case of certain bad guys while cackling evilly).
Dunmer summon up their dead ancestors quote often, and it's based on a relationship of loyalty and fidelity. For that matter Argonians participate with the hist in the dreaming on occasion.
My point is that I think there are lore-friendly options for communication with and even summoning up the dead. However "necromancy" the in-game term, appears to be inherently malign.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
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bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭SeñorCinco wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »in both oblivion and morrowind you could obtain necromancy spells. i can name a few off the top of my head
morrowind: Summon greater bonewalker, summon bonelord, summon skeletal minion
Oblivion: Summon skeleton hero, summon gloom wraith, summon lich, summon headless zombie
In skyrim we have the reanimation spells as well as summon wrathman, mistman, and boneman.
in each of these installments players were still allowed to option to learn and use it for their purposes
That is Conjuration not Necromancy.
yet when you summon a wrathman in skyrim, it is effected by the necro perks. summoning a undead is necromancy.0 -
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They haven't said anything, but that is about the best response I think you'd ever get anyway.Artists and Theives...0 -
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✭After consoles
After consoles
After consoles
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They haven't said anything, but that is about the best response I think you'd ever get anyway.
If a ZOS Green would come in and say exactly that, I would be 100% satisfied. I am not expecting it to come out over night, but just hearing that its something they are considering and working on would float my boat across the ocean.0 -
SeñorCinco✭✭✭✭bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »summoning a undead is necromancy.
I'm afraid I must disagree, my friend. That is still Conjuration. Wraithmen and Skeletal Warriors of that realm are technically Daedra. Calling forth ancestral spirits is not seen as Necromancy.
That Necromancy perk also affected things that had nothing to do with Necromancy. Conjuring anything, undead or otherwise is still Conjuration. Necromancy itself was only introduced in Skyrim as part of Conjuration. It's just an early evolutionary stage of making it a specific in it's own right.
Necromancy was not in Oblivion or Morrowind. --- obviously mistaken
Edited by SeñorCinco on May 16, 2015 7:46PMWords contained in posts, at which point I stop reading and will not respond...
Toon / Mana / WoW or any acronym following "In ___" /
Pets (when referring to summoned Daedra) / Any verbiage to express slang (ie, ending in uz,az,..) / Soul Stone
... to be continued.
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TheTwistedRune✭✭✭✭✭SeñorCinco wrote: »bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »summoning a undead is necromancy.
I'm afraid I must disagree, my friend. That is still Conjuration. Wraithmen and Skeletal Warriors of that realm are technically Daedra. Calling forth ancestral spirits is not seen as Necromancy.
That Necromancy perk also affected things that had nothing to do with Necromancy. Conjuring anything, undead or otherwise is still Conjuration. Necromancy itself was only introduced in Skyrim as part of Conjuration. It's just an early evolutionary stage of making it a specific in it's own right.
Necromancy was not in Oblivion or Morrowind.
Except it was in Oblivion. In the form of the Staff of Worms. And the Greater Power "Risen Flesh" via Shivering Isles.
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You are wise, indeed. As well as, most correct.TheTwistedRune wrote: »Except it was. In the form of the Staff of Worms. And the Greater Power "Risen Flesh" via Shivering Isles.
It seems it's been longer than I had suspected. I'm afraid the condition that affects the memory of the elderly is upon me.
I forget what it's called...
Words contained in posts, at which point I stop reading and will not respond...
Toon / Mana / WoW or any acronym following "In ___" /
Pets (when referring to summoned Daedra) / Any verbiage to express slang (ie, ending in uz,az,..) / Soul Stone
... to be continued.
Now, get off my lawn.1 -
Lazrael✭✭✭SG_Celerrimus wrote: »After consoles
After consoles
After consoles
aFtER CUNSULS
EFdEr Koonsales
They haven't said anything, but that is about the best response I think you'd ever get anyway.
If a ZOS Green would come in and say exactly that, I would be 100% satisfied. I am not expecting it to come out over night, but just hearing that its something they are considering and working on would float my boat across the ocean.
I know I know sorry. I'm just getting tired of that answer. But in any case. Yeah I think theres a high demand for some form of necromancy. Of course it would have to be lore friendly as Necromancy has been widely shunned in Tamriel through most of history. That said, it could be quite a fun and flavorful option the Elder Scrolls games haven't ever fully embraced.
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