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Dual wield increasing spell power
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Is this working by just using Dual Wield or is there something more?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klrNfo340hs
Is it a bug with Dual Wields right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klrNfo340hsIs it a bug with Dual Wields right now?
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No it appears to be working as intended and another one of those "[snip] you magicka users" from ZoS. Of course we all know that a damage buff from a magical staff on full health makes less sense than our daggers making our freaking fireballs hotter but whatever.
I am pretty sure that 2H also gives more spell damage also.Edited by PBpsy on May 14, 2015 5:42PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭No it appears to be working as intended and another one of those "[snip] you magicka users" from ZoS. Of course we all know that a damage buff from a magical staff on full health makes less sense than our daggers making our freaking fireballs hotter but whatever.
I am pretty sure that 2H also gives more spell damage also.
ist just a Mainstream that staff have to give more spellpower.
In th ES Universe Battlemage are the strongest form of any destruction mage, and they are fighting with 2h or daggers#makemagickadkgreataigan
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Ffastyl✭✭✭✭✭Weapon and Spell Damage are derived from the Damage stat on your weapon. Given two-handers have high Damage, they grant high Spell Damage as a side effect. Dual Wield involves equipping two one-handed weapons that individually may not have high Damage but together (with the off-hand penalty) have higher Damage than two-handers. Thus Dual Wield provides the highest base Spell Damage."A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No it appears to be working as intended and another one of those "[snip] you magicka users" from ZoS. Of course we all know that a damage buff from a magical staff on full health makes less sense than our daggers making our freaking fireballs hotter but whatever.
I am pretty sure that 2H also gives more spell damage also.
ist just a Mainstream that staff have to give more spellpower.
In th ES Universe Battlemage are the strongest form of any destruction mage, and they are fighting with 2h or daggers
Show me a "Destruction" mage or a Destruction School" in this game and I will agree. Then we also have that in all other ES games your freaking sword did nothing to your fireball either.Edited by PBpsy on May 14, 2015 5:51PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭No it appears to be working as intended and another one of those "[snip] you magicka users" from ZoS. Of course we all know that a damage buff from a magical staff on full health makes less sense than our daggers making our freaking fireballs hotter but whatever.
I am pretty sure that 2H also gives more spell damage also.
ist just a Mainstream that staff have to give more spellpower.
In th ES Universe Battlemage are the strongest form of any destruction mage, and they are fighting with 2h or daggers
Show me a "Destruction" mage or a Destruction School" in this game and I will agree.
sorcerer having 3 Schools ( destruction, summoning, Illusion)
edit: in dsa on the dwemer stage you will see some battlemagesEdited by BuggeX on May 14, 2015 5:52PM#makemagickadkgreataigan
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No it appears to be working as intended and another one of those "[snip] you magicka users" from ZoS. Of course we all know that a damage buff from a magical staff on full health makes less sense than our daggers making our freaking fireballs hotter but whatever.
I am pretty sure that 2H also gives more spell damage also.
ist just a Mainstream that staff have to give more spellpower.
In th ES Universe Battlemage are the strongest form of any destruction mage, and they are fighting with 2h or daggers
Show me a "Destruction" mage or a Destruction School" in this game and I will agree.
sorcerer having 3 Schools ( destruction, summoning, Illusion)
edit: in dsa on the dwemer stage you will see some battlemages
Wth are we even arguing about? What TES game had fireball damage scale based on your freaking Big Sniping Hammer? Or what TES game locked the fireballs behind a Staff. Until l I can't use my destro staff abilities with my 2H this crap is irrelevant.Edited by PBpsy on May 14, 2015 5:58PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
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✭Logically you would think that a staff should give the highest spell power and melee weapons the highest weapon power. I wonder why @ZOS chose to go the opposite route on that. So as a magicka templar, my heals would be a lot greater by using dual wield over a staff which is just ridiculous.....NA Server - Kildair0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The problem isn't with DW or 2H, the problem is that Destruction and Restoration staff damage is WAY TOO LOW.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE5 -
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✭✭✭Emma_Eunjung wrote: »The problem isn't with DW or 2H, the problem is that Destruction and Restoration staff damage is WAY TOO LOW.
EXACTLY.ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)2 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭From what I have tested, Only Duel Wield and 1hand and shield give spell power.
but I havent tried 2H or bow i heard it doesnt it mainly has to do I believe with sword and board having a passive that increases weapon power and duel wield also has a passive giving weapon power where bow and 2H does not.
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✭✭✭✭✭Logically you would think that a staff should give the highest spell power and melee weapons the highest weapon power. I wonder why @ZOS chose to go the opposite route on that. So as a magicka templar, my heals would be a lot greater by using dual wield over a staff which is just ridiculous.....
Yeah, I'm using 2 Torug's Pact maces on my Templar Healer, Resto staff is just for magicka drain ... it's absolutely silly.Alandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
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Lifsteinn✭✭✭You can talk about mages, sorcerers, fireballs, summoning, illusion, weapons, ESO lore, etc.
The thing is: THIS IS A BUG, isn't it?
The simple fact of wearing a weapon (whatever it is), should not increase your spell damage.
I don't think this is intended at all.
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SeñorCinco✭✭✭✭I don't think this is intended at all.
Nor do I. In fact... The update notes...
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... to be continued.
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LegacyDM✭✭✭✭✭
✭I think this is a fair trade off since all dual wield skills pretty much suck. Duel wield has no charge, *** heal, and baseline weapon damage is meh. Only skill worth having is steel tornado and that is situational at best. If your dual wielding daggers your not outputting any ranged magicka light/heavy attack weaving with animation clipping thus actually losing dps. If you nerf duel wielding spell stacking your nerfing NB magicka melee builds which is already weak compared to ranged magicka builds and stamina NB melee.Legacy of Kain
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Uberkull✭✭✭✭✭ESO...really? Let's just stop calling weapons anything. Just refer them to as '2H Stick' and '1H stick'. That's it.
I mean I already turn my massive two handed sword into these 'magical' red daggers that appear from no where as a NB.
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✭✭✭✭✭Kind of dumb, but I am using it.
Has this really just come to light to a lot of people? Has to be the worst kept secret in the game.0 -
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I would agree spell damage should have been an inherent character trait like in all other TES games. That ship has flown a few years ago when ZOS decided that spell damage should scale of a weapon trait. In this game a magic specific weapon is also required to cast some of the spells so it is only reasonable for those damn weapon types be the most effective for casting.You can talk about mages, sorcerers, fireballs, summoning, illusion, weapons, ESO lore, etc.
The thing is: THIS IS A BUG, isn't it?
The simple fact of wearing a weapon (whatever it is), should not increase your spell damage.
I don't think this is intended at all.
The only game I have seen something more ridiculous was DIablo 3 where they also had spells scale out of weapon damage. Wizards wielding axes twice their size were of course the way to go.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »I think this is a fair trade off since all dual wield skills pretty much suck. Duel wield has no charge, *** heal, and baseline weapon damage is meh. Only skill worth having is steel tornado and that is situational at best. If your dual wielding daggers your not outputting any ranged magicka light/heavy attack weaving with animation clipping thus actually losing dps. If you nerf duel wielding spell stacking your nerfing NB magicka melee builds which is already weak compared to ranged magicka builds and stamina NB melee.
The way to make NB magicka melee builds viable again is to make ZOS understand that Lotus Fan and Agony should be made into something useful for that type of build. Also no one is arguing for a spell damage nerf on weapons but that staffs should be above or at least on par in that department.
Edited by PBpsy on May 14, 2015 6:27PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
Lifsteinn✭✭✭What if only Staves increase spell damage, but no other weapons?
Does that look like an easy solution for you?
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No. Nerfing all magicka use for Stam or hybrid builds would be a terrible idea. However staff users should have the best spell damage overall.What if only Staves increase spell damage, but no other weapons?
Does that look like an easy solution for you?
That or bring back the original Cycle of life and give something similar to Destro staff.
Edited by PBpsy on May 14, 2015 6:35PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
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No. Nerfing all magicka use for Stam or hybrid builds would be a terrible idea. However staff users should have the best spell damage overall.What if only Staves increase spell damage, but no other weapons?
Does that look like an easy solution for you?
That or bring back the original Cycle of life and give something similar to Destro staff.
not rly, staff users have access to more magica spells, would wipe out even more the Balance.
other Option is to lower the spell dmg on weapons, but that means that you can ignore class skills becaus mostly stack on magica and spell power.
so zos have to rebalance the whole classkills or add a Stamina Morph to all of them.
edit: stupid Situation, no matter wath zos is doing now, they wipe the Balance out of the game
btw: speaking as Stamina ddEdited by BuggeX on May 14, 2015 6:42PM#makemagickadkgreataigan
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Faulgor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭What if only Staves increase spell damage, but no other weapons?
Does that look like an easy solution for you?
Not really, no. I think all weapons but staffs should have as much spell damage as a 1h weapon. That means the 2nd weapon for dual wielding shouldn't add any spell damage. Staffs then should have as much spell damage as 2h weapons have weapon damage currently.
There's simply no reason why a greatsword, a hammer, two daggers and a bow should have varying amounts of spell damage. They should all have the same.Edited by Faulgor on May 14, 2015 6:49PMAlandrol Sul: He's making another Numidium?!?
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Wait are you guys still implying that Stamina is worse than Magicka.? lol
No. Nerfing all magicka use for Stam or hybrid builds would be a terrible idea. However staff users should have the best spell damage overall.What if only Staves increase spell damage, but no other weapons?
Does that look like an easy solution for you?
That or bring back the original Cycle of life and give something similar to Destro staff.
not rly, staff users have access to more magica spells, would wipe out even more the Balance.
other Option is to lower the spell dmg on weapons, but that means that you can ignore class skills becaus mostly stack on magica and spell power.
so zos have to rebalance the whole classkills or add a Stamina Morph to all of them.
edit: stupid Situation, no matter wath zos is doing now, they wipe the Balance out of the game
btw: speaking as Stamina dd
Speaking as a Magicka based NB dps since day one.With occasional testing of the Stamina side to test the nerf magicka BS.
Edited by PBpsy on May 14, 2015 6:49PMESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)0 -
BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭there would be a easy wy to Balance this. Classskills should stack with 50/50 of magica and Stamina not just 100% magica.
so you can lower the spalldmg of weapons without rebalancing the whole game#makemagickadkgreataigan
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BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
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Wait are you guys still implying that Stamina is worse than Magicka.? lol
No. Nerfing all magicka use for Stam or hybrid builds would be a terrible idea. However staff users should have the best spell damage overall.What if only Staves increase spell damage, but no other weapons?
Does that look like an easy solution for you?
That or bring back the original Cycle of life and give something similar to Destro staff.
not rly, staff users have access to more magica spells, would wipe out even more the Balance.
other Option is to lower the spell dmg on weapons, but that means that you can ignore class skills becaus mostly stack on magica and spell power.
so zos have to rebalance the whole classkills or add a Stamina Morph to all of them.
edit: stupid Situation, no matter wath zos is doing now, they wipe the Balance out of the game
btw: speaking as Stamina dd
Speaking as a Magicka based NB dps since day one.
not saying is worse and snot saying is better. They are (imo) balanced atm.#makemagickadkgreataigan
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#ineedheal
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