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Could You Give us a Vet Version of Blackwater Blade Campaign?
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@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno
Dear Brian and Gina,
Would it be possible for you guys/gals to create a campaign for Vets that has the same Battle Level Restrictions as Blackwater Blade?
As it stands right now, there is a very large segment of your PVP population that feels damage stacking, infinite resource builds, Nirnhoned stacking, etc are out of hand in the standard Vet Campaigns.
Rather then expending time on nerfing skills, gear sets, etc....could you just give us a Vet version of Blackwater Blade?
If you guys could do this it would be HUGE! it would build a lot of goodwill for this community and i guarantee you it will get used. It will have a healthy population i assure you.
Im crossing my fingers you guys/gals could make this happen....It would be awesome to have a choice if we wanted to play with the current vet campaign stats or BB stats after vet level...please give us a Blackwater Blade type of Vet campaign! it would be a god send right now!
Thank you for your time
Sincerely
Rinaldo
Edited by RinaldoGandolphi on May 14, 2015 1:07PM Dear Brian and Gina,
Would it be possible for you guys/gals to create a campaign for Vets that has the same Battle Level Restrictions as Blackwater Blade?
As it stands right now, there is a very large segment of your PVP population that feels damage stacking, infinite resource builds, Nirnhoned stacking, etc are out of hand in the standard Vet Campaigns.
Rather then expending time on nerfing skills, gear sets, etc....could you just give us a Vet version of Blackwater Blade?
If you guys could do this it would be HUGE! it would build a lot of goodwill for this community and i guarantee you it will get used. It will have a healthy population i assure you.
Im crossing my fingers you guys/gals could make this happen....It would be awesome to have a choice if we wanted to play with the current vet campaign stats or BB stats after vet level...please give us a Blackwater Blade type of Vet campaign! it would be a god send right now!
Thank you for your time
Sincerely
Rinaldo
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DoctorSwampy✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno
Dear Brian and Gina,
Would it be possible for you guys/gals to create a campaign for Vets that has the same Battle Level Restrictions as Blackwater Blade?
As it stands right now, there is a very large segment of your PVP population that feels damage stacking, infinite resource builds, Nirnhoned stacking, etc are out of hand in the standard Vet Campaigns.
Rather then expending time on nerfing skills, gear sets, etc....could you just give us a Vet version of Blackwater Blade?
If you guys could do this it would be HUGE! it would build a lot of goodwill for this community and i guarantee you it will get used. It will have a healthy population i assure you.
Im crossing my fingers you guys/gals could make this happen....It would be awesome to have a choice if we wanted to play with the current vet campaign stats or BB stats after vet level...please give us a Blackwater Blade type of Vet campaign! it would be a god send right now!
Thank you for your time
Sincerely
Rinaldo
My concerns are that this would cause more harm than good if the battle level method seems to work. Everyone will crowd onto that server like they do Blackwater, making everyone that can't get into the 127th queue position out of luck.
It is a very interesting idea though, I myself would try it out.Edited by DoctorSwampy on May 14, 2015 1:08PM1 -
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My concerns are that this would cause more harm than good if the battle level method seems to work. Everyone will crowd onto that server like they do Blackwater, making everyone that can't get into the 127th queue position out of luck.
It is a very interesting idea though, I myself would try it out.
Perhaps, but choice is never a bad thing. I know some people want uncapped stats and others don't., giving us Vets a Battle leveled campaign allows us to play with what we think is fair without unfairly infringing on those who like the uncapped system(current vet campaigns)
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"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak0 -
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✭✭✭✭It certainly would go a long way for VR levels 1-13 (probably doesn't need to go above 10, but might as well) since by all accounts, that is now the rough patch.
Yes, I would want this campaign to be available to anyone Vet1-14. I know a lot of reg PVP folks that are now just rolling new non-vet alts and playing on Blackwater Blade all the time because its the only one they think that has any balance.
I don't want to take away the uncapped campaigns, im all about flavor, if folks want to play with that they should have the avenue to do so. I also believe Vets should have an avenue open to them to play with Battle Leveled Rule set as well if they so choose. I think this way, everyone gets what they want without having to give up anything
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"Here in his shrine, that they have forgotten. Here do we toil, that we might remember. By night we reclaim, what by day was stolen. Far from ourselves, he grows ever near to us. Our eyes once were blinded, now through him do we see. Our hands once were idle, now through them does he speak. And when the world shall listen, and when the world shall see, and when the world remembers, that world will cease to be. - Miraak0 -
aco5712✭✭✭✭✭i like the idea +1Banned for Naming and Shaming exploiters. Great ideology ZOS.
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Cernow✭✭✭✭DoctorSwampy wrote: »My concerns are that this would cause more harm than good if the battle level method seems to work. Everyone will crowd onto that server like they do Blackwater, making everyone that can't get into the 127th queue position out of luck.
It is a very interesting idea though, I myself would try it out.
Well, if everyone crowds onto a server running this ruleset it would prove that the existing veteran system is failing to be enjoyable for a large section of the player base.
Personally I don't bother to PvP with my VR7 character, it's not enjoyable. I prefer to play alts in Blackwater Blade as I find the balance there better (not perfect, but better). If there was a ruleset tuned to give VR1-10 a better gameplay experience I'd certainly give it a try.
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DoctorSwampy✭✭✭DoctorSwampy wrote: »My concerns are that this would cause more harm than good if the battle level method seems to work. Everyone will crowd onto that server like they do Blackwater, making everyone that can't get into the 127th queue position out of luck.
It is a very interesting idea though, I myself would try it out.
Well, if everyone crowds onto a server running this ruleset it would prove that the existing veteran system is failing to be enjoyable for a large section of the player base.
Personally I don't bother to PvP with my VR7 character, it's not enjoyable. I prefer to play alts in Blackwater Blade as I find the balance there better (not perfect, but better). If there was a ruleset tuned to give VR1-10 a better gameplay experience I'd certainly give it a try.
I wasn't saying it wasn't failing, I'm just saying it would cause major uproar going onto one server.
I love the idea, but they'd need to at least make two if they try it so one server isn't so crammed.RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »DoctorSwampy wrote: »
My concerns are that this would cause more harm than good if the battle level method seems to work. Everyone will crowd onto that server like they do Blackwater, making everyone that can't get into the 127th queue position out of luck.
It is a very interesting idea though, I myself would try it out.
Perhaps, but choice is never a bad thing. I know some people want uncapped stats and others don't., giving us Vets a Battle leveled campaign allows us to play with what we think is fair without unfairly infringing on those who like the uncapped system(current vet campaigns)
I don't want people WBing me for 17k when I'm in 5 heavy and blocking, so I agree with playing with level stats.0 -
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✭I agree that this would be a good idea, because the way battle leveling works is borked.
You get leveled if you are below 49, but once you hit VR 1, the battle leveling ends, which means a VR 1 character is actually far inferior to a level 49 character in Cyrodiil. That just makes no sense, and is a disincentive to level.
I think a server that battle levels everyone to VR 10 would be very full, and help keep people in the game during the difficult VR grind (for as long as the VR levels are in the game).Templars are 'just slower... by design'
Yes, Gina actually said that (at least regarding Rushed Ceremony) right here:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/161959/templar-skills-bugged-made-useless-ignored/p24
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✭Just a PvP campaign with soft caps enabled would likely be a lot more even and fun0 -
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✭✭✭Ignore the elitists that will say "L2P" this is a fantastic idea, definitely worth giving a try1 -
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I just made a character for Blackwater Blade specifically for this type of PvP. If we were given the choice of having battle leveled vet campaigns and not, it would go a long way to help many peoples experience with PvP.0 -
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✭I'd be up for it for sure.Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...0 -
Suru✭✭✭✭There was once one along time ago, then DC took it from EP because EP couldnt fight seriously without nonvet pugs using siege for em. Then it got removed shortly afterwards. It was fun, but would prlly be a different story now haha.
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SnowCountrySoul ShrivenI strongly support this proposal. All of the tech is already in the game so it would presumably not be a large undertaking to implement, and it would vastly improve the PvP experience for new Veteran characters, as well as anyone who'd like to play in a slightly less bursty environment. With comprehensive PvP balancing changes likely still months in the future, I can't understand why this doesn't already exist--is it really that difficult to clone Blackwater Blade and remove the "no veteran" flag?0
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✭✭✭✭✭The problem with this would be a certain armor set with certain bufffood and no way to increase your dmg against builds with UNLIMITED resources.
It works on non vet bc bufffood/mundus etc are weaker...<Noricum>
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Mumyo✭✭✭✭✭DoctorSwampy wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »@ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_GinaBruno
Dear Brian and Gina,
Would it be possible for you guys/gals to create a campaign for Vets that has the same Battle Level Restrictions as Blackwater Blade?
As it stands right now, there is a very large segment of your PVP population that feels damage stacking, infinite resource builds, Nirnhoned stacking, etc are out of hand in the standard Vet Campaigns.
Rather then expending time on nerfing skills, gear sets, etc....could you just give us a Vet version of Blackwater Blade?
If you guys could do this it would be HUGE! it would build a lot of goodwill for this community and i guarantee you it will get used. It will have a healthy population i assure you.
Im crossing my fingers you guys/gals could make this happen....It would be awesome to have a choice if we wanted to play with the current vet campaign stats or BB stats after vet level...please give us a Blackwater Blade type of Vet campaign! it would be a god send right now!
Thank you for your time
Sincerely
Rinaldo
My concerns are that this would cause more harm than good if the battle level method seems to work. Everyone will crowd onto that server like they do Blackwater, making everyone that can't get into the 127th queue position out of luck.
It is a very interesting idea though, I myself would try it out.
If so many people would join that, make even more than 1 server like that:)0
