So about 120 dollars for a faction change?

No. I have one whose feet are too big, another whose face is too round, etc. No way in Oblivion would I pay 4000 crowns a pop to fix one detail each. I would just keep on coping on

A better crown sale is say a one hour time card that opens the creator panel for any/all toons on the account.

10K to bring my one AD toon to EP because bad PVE design?!? If they never want to make any money on it....sure. I get that you would want to prevent abuse, that is accomplished by a time lock or a one time only change, not by making it more expensive than the game itself.

Edit: I do agree that 99% of barber functions should be in game for gold like other MMO's.

Tapio75 wrote: »

Then for crowns in crown store

-Race change (Includes total recustomisation) 8k crowns
-Total recustomisation 4k Crowns
-Faction change 10k including total redo and race change

That would be the way for me. All the new hairstyles and so forth are free to subscribers and cost as packs to freeriders.

When @lordrichter the businessman looks at this, he sees dollar signs. Fleecing the customer is both fun and rewarding. The prices, however, are too low. It should cost at least 15000 Crowns for a full character makeover, highest for RACE and GENDER changes, next highest for NAME, CLASS, and FACTION ONLY changes, and lowest for COSMETIC APPEARANCE ONLY and RESPECIFICATION. Offer them separately to give the illusion of control. When all of the above are totaled together, it should sum to 15,000 crowns and be offered as a single package. No cool down, usable immediately.

When @lordrichter the gamer looks at this, he throws up a little. Bypassing the game just so that some player can have a new shiny end-game character is just wrong in an RPG game. This is the equivalent of buying a character.

oddavi wrote: »

Seriously stop telling them to put these things in the crown store or itll end up like total crap with completely ridiculus prices.
Why the hell would i pay 15$ to fix the appearance of my character ( which i created day one when we werent able to zoom )
This is a basic mmo feature and they MUST not put a paywall in front of it
Especially for 15 $

I agree. You should be able to change the cosmetic appearance of your character in a barber shop without a paywall in front of it. It should be available in the game for gold, or available as a Scroll in the Crown Store for the same Crown cost as the Respecification Scrolls. There should be no cool down.

The barber shop should include everything from character generation except the following.

• Name
• Gender/Race
• Class
• Alliance

These items are premium services and should be available for purchase only in the Crown store as individual packages.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

By this point I would rather see this game revert back to a required subscription. This crown store is getting ridiculous and players only add fuel to the fire by over-pricing their requests.

How you find a faction change worth 2/3 of the game's total cost is beyond me. I wouldn't pay more than $5.

The barber shop should remain entirely in-game and priced realistically, not as a cash sink.
Changing your character's hair, beard, or skin tone should not ever be in the crown store.
Race changes, while I do not agree with them, make sense to be sold for real money.

Edit: If race changes hit the crown store they should add more races. Cosmetic only and applied over a base race of your choice. I would definitely buy a race change, if priced reasonably, if it offered a new race. Especially if that race received a new motif.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

How you find a faction change worth 2/3 of the game's total cost is beyond me. I wouldn't pay more than $5.

You might be willing to pay $5, but that service is worth at least $30.

I suggest the following prices. None of these services overlap, unless specified.

• Respecification Scrolls = 700 crowns in the store today. (also available for gold in game)
• Appearance/Cosmetic (barber shop) = 700 crowns (also available for gold in game)
• Name change = 1000 crowns
• Class change = 2500 crowns (includes respecification, a 1400 crown value)
• Alliance change = 3000 crowns (no limits, any race can be any alliance)
• Gender/Race change = 7000 crowns

For the person who has to have it all:

• Complete character makeover, includes skill and attribute reset, name change, race and gender change, alliance change, class change scrolls, plus FREE barber shop! = 13,500 crowns

Why do you call gold drakes @Ffastyl ?

EDIT: Nevermind!

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Septim_(Coin)

I kind of wish they had used "Drakes" instead of "Crowns"... Crowns sound so hokey.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

How you find a faction change worth 2/3 of the game's total cost is beyond me. I wouldn't pay more than $5.

You might be willing to pay $5, but that service is worth at least $30.

I suggest the following prices. None of these services overlap.

• Respecification Scrolls = 700 crowns in the store today. (also available for gold in game)
• Appearance/Cosmetic (barber shop) = 700 crowns (also available for gold in game)
• Name change = 1000 crowns
• Class change = 2000 crowns
• Alliance change = 3000 crowns
• Gender/Race change = 7000 crowns

For the person who has to have it all:

• Complete character makeover, includes skill and attribute reset, name change, race and gender change, alliance change, and class change scrolls = 15,000 crowns

In this context...
Worth - Noun: "The value equivalent to that of someone or something under consideration; the level at which someone or something deserves to be valued or rated."

The "worth" or value of this service is completely subjective.
This service is for pure convenience and only saves you the time of creating a new character to product the same effect. How is a service that offers 0% extra content worth 50% of the game's total value? This goes as high as 200% for third party customers.

From an objective, business perspective they should do whatever sells better.
I would be more inclined to make purchases if they were priced more competitively, rather than charging whatever they want. Many, but not all, agree with me.

If a $30 price tag creates more profit than a $5 or $10 price tag, go for it. However I believe it would sell more, and therefore be more profitable, if the service was offered at a more "reasonable" cost.

With games like these it's not JUST about price, it's also about preservation of the game and the perception of the service. If the service were $5, there would be people that would change regularly. That could create a volatile gaming environment where a player is playing against another and they are getting trounced so they spend $5, get a new class and respect their character... now they have the advantage because they tailored their character to address their opponents abilities.

There is also the concept of perceived value where making something more expensive makes it seem exclusive. While a player might not make this decision consciously, paying $30 for a race change will cause that player to play that race longer and they will commit to that character more readily than if the change were $5. A player who pays $30 for a race change might feel compelled to play the game for 6 months to make that purchase "worth it". A player who pays $5 might not go the month before the perceived value of the race change diminishes to nothing.

There's also the fact that ZOS may loose players if those players feel as if their choices hold little meaning because they can just change it for $5. These players may not become invested in their choices and their characters making it easier for them to lay ESO to the side and play something else.

In short: Race Change, Faction Change, and Class Change are all account services that should be viewed as infrequent exceptions, not something that could be done at the drop of a hat. The decision should carry some weight and the heaviest of weights is the heft of a dollar.

Endurance wrote: »

barber shop? really? so many people screwed up their character appearance rushing for their closed beta/early access name (except me)

My first character I tried to tweak every detail to make an ideal appearance. Unskilled in 3D art, I left character customization with a half-baked design which I settled upon because I had spent 2 hours attempting to perfect it. Inevitably, after hundreds of hours playing as said character, I am forced to recognize the flaws in his features.

Upon making a second character, I see a new option: selective randomization. I cycle through the presets until I find something somewhat desirable and tweak it a little bit. Then I lock down the features I tweaked and hit "randomize." The other features are randomized until I see something I like; I lock down the desired features and continue randomizing. I spent an hour and a half in this process, and the flaws are less numerous and glaring than on the prior.

I hide my first character's face behind a closed face helm.

I agree Tapio75 I just want to change hairstyle (preferably some better ones!) hair color, simple stuff. I'm not going to blast anyone who wants to change their whole character, I just don't need all of that. I do wish they would hurry up with it though