Yeah, in primetime at the wrong location at the wrong time you will have lag 99% of the time.

Must feel good to be in the 1%

Realistically the lag isn't as often as the forums make it out to be. At least in my experiences anyways.

The real problem persists when you get multiple organized groups of players fighting at a keep. I've been in battles where our group and the opposite faction group had stood on flags spamming ultimates and AoEs where no one takes any damage for 5-10 even 15 minutes. When the server finally catches up one group starts taking damage and usually wipes. More often than not these "lag battles" cause lag all throughout the map, even if you're off in a corner on your own picking flowers.

We all know this is an issue, anyone that runs in organized PvP groups knows it is. As much as all of us would like for it to not happen, it does. Its not intentional on any parties behalf its just the way it happens. We'd all like for it to not happen so we can actually battle the way we all want to.

Yet I digress - even though we all know it happens, ZoS knows it happens, apparently there is no actual way for them to fix it. Players could fix it by not engaging in these keep takes but losing a keep is sometimes not an option - nor is missing out on the AP involved.

I Play on EU. Over the WE i have spend around 20-24hour in PVP. In this time there was just 2 times a lag, and this just if a specified grp of DC was zerging arround.

20 ppl if DC is causing a lag where 5 min before a big fight between AD and EP was (40vs40) or even 40v40v40 was running perfect (well exept some fps Drops) wy are this 20 ppl laging this hard? well some ppl call it laghax or lagtrain...

efficient wy to win, this lagtrain captured in 2hours the whole map and 4 scrolls

I personally enjoy waiting with my stam nb and ganking people instead of running into keeps with 100 people to try and take them

I rarely get lag

Pretty much the only time I encounter lag in PvP is when the meteor / detonation spamming zerg train comes rolling through.

Other than that I find it to be quite fun and enjoyable.

I reckon if there were friendly fire, that oughta clear up right quick, but then people would exploit it by creating saboteur characters.

FadedJeans wrote: »

Pretty much the only time I encounter lag in PvP is when the meteor / detonation spamming zerg train comes rolling through.

Other than that I find it to be quite fun and enjoyable.

Same goes for me

Jitterbug wrote: »

Ok, I'll concede, but not to 99%.
Just remember that if the only time someone has a chance to play is between 6pm and 10pm and all they ever get is lag then that represents 100% to them.
If you only play at off hours then you'll have a lag free environment most of the time.

I recently had some time off from work and I could play at night and in the morning with little to no issues, but I could literally tell when "the kids got home from school" because the lag would start creeping in.

FadedJeans wrote: »

Pretty much the only time I encounter lag in PvP is when the meteor / detonation spamming zerg train comes rolling through.

Other than that I find it to be quite fun and enjoyable.

I reckon if there were friendly fire, that oughta clear up right quick, but then people would exploit it by creating saboteur characters.

In my experience, if I play in Cyrodiil for 4 hours at primetime, I encounter severe latency/network "lag" for a grand total of under a minute and a half cumulatively, with that time tending to be clumped into 2-4 second chunks. It is an issue, and no one's saying it's not... but I have to side with @mtwiggz here as far as how I view the whole thing. There's additionally an exploit related to all of this, but I'm becoming less sure that it's virtually always the main cause of the lag we as players see versus just being a gameplay advantage some groups are utilizing and the lag would be occurring regardless in some (but not all) cases. That particular cheat has now been documented and is in the process of being written up for submission at this time. By and large, though, I've noticed server latency even in PVE areas as soon as peak times of the day approach, before huge numbers of players are even clashing yet. Cyrodiil always is a bit worse even at those times, but it is playable and enjoyable nonetheless.

mtwiggz wrote: »

Realistically the lag isn't as often as the forums make it out to be. At least in my experiences anyways.

The real problem persists when you get multiple organized groups of players fighting at a keep. I've been in battles where our group and the opposite faction group had stood on flags spamming ultimates and AoEs where no one takes any damage for 5-10 even 15 minutes. When the server finally catches up one group starts taking damage and usually wipes. More often than not these "lag battles" cause lag all throughout the map, even if you're off in a corner on your own picking flowers.

We all know this is an issue, anyone that runs in organized PvP groups knows it is. As much as all of us would like for it to not happen, it does. Its not intentional on any parties behalf its just the way it happens. We'd all like for it to not happen so we can actually battle the way we all want to.

Yet I digress - even though we all know it happens, ZoS knows it happens, apparently there is no actual way for them to fix it. Players could fix it by not engaging in these keep takes but losing a keep is sometimes not an option - nor is missing out on the AP involved.

Psssh.
Working as intended. You aren't supposed to be able to use abilities or ultimates while attacking or defending keeps.
Well you can, but only one person at a time, please...

Now run off to the crown store and buy yourself a nice nightmare steed.

On Sunday evenings on the EU server even the PvE is lagging...

Try doing the second wave of the Bridge in SO or the group in Hel'ra before the endboss on a Sunday evening in primetime you will get lag all the time.

The Bridge is even etter if you want to try and pull more then one group then it will really start to lag and your group often dies or at least part of it.

If you want to do speedruns on EU servers don't to it on Sunday evening...

And we have this lag on Sunday now for weeks and on otherdays it's perfectly fine to play

Seriously though, I don't get why ESO has such lag problems.
I can remember HUGE zergs running around in DAoC. And Warhammer Online before the devs "fixed" things and everybody canceled their subs.

Interesting story, Warhammer Online.. They were doing pretty good, till they listened to a few complainers in the forums who didn't like large scale battles at keeps or capturing resource points because it was "boring". In fact the pvp was a lot like ESO's is.
So the devs redesigned the game to make it less boring, everyone hated it, and the game closed down within a year. Death by game designer.

True story.

TheBull wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

There is only lag a very small percent of the time

What are all of the lag complaints about?

ESO PvP is awesome its the most fun I've had since college


P.s. every time I come on the forums I read the posts and think there is something horribly wrong with ESO...
Then I play the game and realize everything is fine

92% of the time there is no lag OP. There's a 2 hour window which usually happens during west coast prime time...


edit- Unless a certain EP or AD guild is around.

or DC Group,

Subjective at best. Lag is based on each individual given a large number of activities and locations and time and a lot of other things. I would avoid making blanket statements. I too can go to Cyradiil and get no lag. I just have to pick a low pop server, a nice quiet time of the day, and a location as far from the front as possible. You can get a lot of things done without ever even seeing another player.

Sorry but I have to agree with the others that lag is persistent in PVP. I don't PVP that much but when I go to a keep that's being occupied by other players it's lag city.

eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »

mtwiggz wrote: »

Realistically the lag isn't as often as the forums make it out to be. At least in my experiences anyways.

The real problem persists when you get multiple organized groups of players fighting at a keep. I've been in battles where our group and the opposite faction group had stood on flags spamming ultimates and AoEs where no one takes any damage for 5-10 even 15 minutes. When the server finally catches up one group starts taking damage and usually wipes. More often than not these "lag battles" cause lag all throughout the map, even if you're off in a corner on your own picking flowers.

We all know this is an issue, anyone that runs in organized PvP groups knows it is. As much as all of us would like for it to not happen, it does. Its not intentional on any parties behalf its just the way it happens. We'd all like for it to not happen so we can actually battle the way we all want to.

Yet I digress - even though we all know it happens, ZoS knows it happens, apparently there is no actual way for them to fix it. Players could fix it by not engaging in these keep takes but losing a keep is sometimes not an option - nor is missing out on the AP involved.

This is the majority of PvP in the game though. There are not that many small skirmishes which is something that an arena style would help to achieve. I love the large scale battles, but this is where the lag starts to come in.

No, it isn't. It's the majority if you run to the closest keep icon that is on fire that you see on the map always, but much of the fighting in cyrodiil occurs at natural chokepoints like gates and bridges, as well as main travel routes and out of the way resources to cut transit lines. If you want more small skirmishes, you can go make them and almost always will get them .