So about that Nirnhoned - Patch Notes v2.0.8

Methuselah · May 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Patch notes should read:

All Classes: Fixed an issue where some classes (notably Sorcerers) were still selecting Magicka as their primary resource. This has been addressed.

I used to like you agrippa.

Sacadon · May 2015

Guess we've plenty of time before having to pull the sharpened trait weapons out again... Since they seem to take turns blowing through resists.

Agrippa_Invisus · May 2015

Methuselah wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Patch notes should read:

All Classes: Fixed an issue where some classes (notably Sorcerers) were still selecting Magicka as their primary resource. This has been addressed.

I used to like you agrippa.

I joke, I joke.

Yeesh.

Xsorus · May 2015

Ya know..I'm running Magicka DK right now, and i'm not noticing a massive reduction in damage like most of you are going on about.

Agrippa_Invisus · May 2015

Xsorus wrote: »

Ya know..I'm running Magicka DK right now, and i'm not noticing a massive reduction in damage like most of you are going on about.

*gasps*

*makes sign of the cross*

Xsorus · May 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Ya know..I'm running Magicka DK right now, and i'm not noticing a massive reduction in damage like most of you are going on about.

*gasps*

*makes sign of the cross*

Stamina DK is so boring to play, Magicka DK is amusing..i'm playing a Vampire as well..and know what i've noticed...It doesn't matter if you're a vampire or not in PVP..because every kills ya fast anyway

Agrippa_Invisus · May 2015

Xsorus wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Ya know..I'm running Magicka DK right now, and i'm not noticing a massive reduction in damage like most of you are going on about.

*gasps*

*makes sign of the cross*

Stamina DK is so boring to play, Magicka DK is amusing..i'm playing a Vampire as well..and know what i've noticed...It doesn't matter if you're a vampire or not in PVP..because every kills ya fast anyway

You're right, it is.

Everytime I'm out and about on my DK, I'm going to myself: I could be a NB and do this better and have escape abilities.

I'll send you a PM. I'm trying to work out a magicka DK return in my head and could use some feedback.

Soulac · May 2015

Day 406: still waiting for unbreakable stun fix.

eventide03b14a_ESO · May 2015

Snit wrote: »

FMonk wrote: »

...instead of posting a screenshot of the one time they got hit by a 15k crystal frag and yelling "OMG NERF SORC".

That's my thinking, too. Every once in a while, I'd launch a fairly ludicrous fragment. I wasn't necessarily fishing for one, but stuff happens. It frequently occurred to me how unfair that might look on someone's death recap.

I'm glad to see it fixed.

Similar to how snipe looks on mine?

Manoekin · May 2015

Gonna be waiting a long time until nirn is fixed -_- put on your skeleton costumes imo.

Ifthir_ESO · May 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

All of last year was the year of the staff wielding bathrobe wearers, this year is gonna be all about the leather chaps wearing Wrecking blow spammers.

Hopefully next year it will be balanced and will update/nerf/fix in the favors of all classes.

Next year all of the PvPers will have been tired of waiting for Balance and be playing CU or something similar instead.

nah that game will be garbage

Huntler · May 2015

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

All of last year was the year of the staff wielding bathrobe wearers, this year is gonna be all about the leather chaps wearing Wrecking blow spammers.

Hopefully next year it will be balanced and will update/nerf/fix in the favors of all classes.

Next year all of the PvPers will have been tired of waiting for Balance and be playing CU or something similar instead.

nah that game will be garbage

You are aware of the state of the game you are currently playing right?

saintmurray · May 2015

God I'm sick of magika users crying they are hard done by. Wear some god damn reinforced armour or stack some heavy armour. Your wearing bloody paper thin cloth. A huge hit from a 2h/bow/dw should knock you on your ass. Nirn is supposed to be a rare armour trait maybe they need to make it less accessible (lower the drop rate therefore increasing its cost)
As for the fix, the proc was literally not working as intended. End rant.

Manoekin · May 2015

saintmurray wrote: »

God I'm sick of magika users crying they are hard done by. Wear some god damn reinforced armour or stack some heavy armour. Your wearing bloody paper thin cloth. A huge hit from a 2h/bow/dw should knock you on your ass. Nirn is supposed to be a rare armour trait maybe they need to make it less accessible (lower the drop rate therefore increasing its cost)
As for the fix, the proc was literally not working as intended. End rant.

And what should getting hit by a meteor do?

Ifthir_ESO · May 2015

ITT sorcs feeling what all other classes feel like

Snit · May 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

All of last year was the year of the staff wielding bathrobe wearers, this year is gonna be all about the leather chaps wearing Wrecking blow spammers.

Hopefully next year it will be balanced and will update/nerf/fix in the favors of all classes.

Next year all of the PvPers will have been tired of waiting for Balance and be playing CU or something similar instead.

I heard Beta1 was scheduled for August?

I totally want to play one of this little leprechaun dudes

Huntler · May 2015

saintmurray wrote: »

God I'm sick of magika users crying they are hard done by. Wear some god damn reinforced armour or stack some heavy armour. Your wearing bloody paper thin cloth. A huge hit from a 2h/bow/dw should knock you on your ass. Nirn is supposed to be a rare armour trait maybe they need to make it less accessible (lower the drop rate therefore increasing its cost)
As for the fix, the proc was literally not working as intended. End rant.

Ah realism... as my friend mano said why doesn't a meteor to the face not 1 hit you and all your friends? Why doesn't a fireball to the face melt you inside your heavy armor? Or why doesn't my electrical storm not turn you into a freaking christmas tree?

Its game balance friend. Why should stamina users get both superior damage to magicka and superior defenses? Good luck answering that one, I'd really enjoy seeing you try. Don't worry... I'll wait @saintmurray

Ifthir_ESO · May 2015

Huntler wrote: »

You are aware of the state of the game you are currently playing right?

A lot better than that pipe dream you guys keep thinking will warp you back in time to DAOC.

Ifthir_ESO · May 2015

Xsorus wrote: »

Ya know..I'm running Magicka DK right now, and i'm not noticing a massive reduction in damage like most of you are going on about.

The more I post here the more I find myself agreeing with you.

It started around the time we were talking about AOE caps in beta.

Huntler · May 2015

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

You are aware of the state of the game you are currently playing right?

A lot better than that pipe dream you guys keep thinking will warp you back in time to DAOC.

Agree to disagree. At least one has hope and is a dream... this dream was DOA.

Ifthir_ESO · May 2015

Huntler wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

Huntler wrote: »

You are aware of the state of the game you are currently playing right?

A lot better than that pipe dream you guys keep thinking will warp you back in time to DAOC.

Agree to disagree. At least one has hope and is a dream... this dream was DOA.

I actually hope I am wrong, I just don't think I will be.

I've seen what they are pitching and it just seems like Project 1999 but with DAOC instead of EQ.

Ezareth · May 2015

Point is there is always the next best game coming out. This game progressively got worse since launch and only shows signs of accelerating in that direction.

You can continue being a blind fan boy until your voice echoes alone in these forums if you'd like. I was a big fan boy myself and there is still much that I enjoy but you'd have to be blind to see anything other than a dying game right now.

Agrippa_Invisus · May 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

Point is there is always the next best game coming out. This game progressively got worse since launch and only shows signs of accelerating in that direction.

You can continue being a blind fan boy until your voice echoes alone in these forums if you'd like. I was a big fan boy myself and there is still much that I enjoy but you'd have to be blind to see anything other than a dying game right now.

Take a peek at Crowfall, too. Has some really interesting ideas.

rfennell_ESO · May 2015

I guess they should just rename Cyrondil to Cyrondodgeroll.

saintmurray · May 2015

@Huntler I have seen plenty of magika users who are as tanky as stamina users (shield stacking). Everything swings in round abouts. Up until 1.6 stamina wasn't even playable. Now its Fotm. I stack weapon damage and the best I can hit for out of stealth against a vamp in light armour is about 14k(snipe)+5k(camo hunter)+5k(light attack)+5k(poison injection). I have been hit equally as hard by lots of sorcs with crystal frags ani cancel light attack. Or templars spaming radiant.

Huntler · May 2015

saintmurray wrote: »

@Huntler I have seen plenty of magika users who are as tanky as stamina users (shield stacking). Everything swings in round abouts. Up until 1.6 stamina wasn't even playable. Now its Fotm. I stack weapon damage and the best I can hit for out of stealth against a vamp in light armour is about 14k(snipe)+5k(camo hunter)+5k(light attack)+5k(poison injection). I have been hit equally as hard by lots of sorcs with crystal frags ani cancel light attack. Or templars spaming radiant.

Ah yes, because comparing an execute when in execute range or some bs excuse because you clearly don't understand animation cancelling is a totally fair comparison to your example of snipe.

Etaniel · May 2015

Am i the only one happy about the ulti bug fix? I've been playing without ultimate for the past month

saintmurray · May 2015

Huntler wrote: »

saintmurray wrote: »

@Huntler I have seen plenty of magika users who are as tanky as stamina users (shield stacking). Everything swings in round abouts. Up until 1.6 stamina wasn't even playable. Now its Fotm. I stack weapon damage and the best I can hit for out of stealth against a vamp in light armour is about 14k(snipe)+5k(camo hunter)+5k(light attack)+5k(poison injection). I have been hit equally as hard by lots of sorcs with crystal frags ani cancel light attack. Or templars spaming radiant.

Ah yes, because comparing an execute when in execute range or some bs excuse because you clearly don't understand animation cancelling is a totally fair comparison to your example of snipe.

Didn't that get your kickers in a knot. Looks like all the magika users are still only seeing what they want to see.

joshisanonymous · May 2015

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

good to see some sorc balancing

Of course i agree the stacking should be fixed.

The problem is Nirnhoned, it would take them NO TIME at all to make Nirnhoned like Reinforced but increase the Value say 10%...it would still be good, it just wouldn't be able to nerf all magic builds in the game.

this isn't about just Sorcs, ALL MAGIC BUILDS IN THE GAME ARE BEING MIFFED BECAUSE OF NIRNHONED

if they can fix Frag Proc(which im glad they did) they could adjust Nirnhoned to work like Reinforced for Spell Resist and increasing its value by a fair measure to make it still good but not useless. The fact an RNG based mechanic is more important to fix then something like Nirnhoned is troubling to me.

Right, internet guy. You obviously know how easy it is to adjust nirnhoned and if only those stupid developers would stop being lazy about it, clearly ignoring the issue on purpose, then we could all get on with our lives. Ya know, just move some numbers around and poof! Everything is better, because obviously none of the people getting paid to develop the game have thought about numbers.

Juraigr · May 2015

This game is trash hitting august palatine and I'm out