Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

good to see some sorc balancing

Of course i agree the stacking should be fixed.

The problem is Nirnhoned, it would take them NO TIME at all to make Nirnhoned like Reinforced but increase the Value say 10%...it would still be good, it just wouldn't be able to nerf all magic builds in the game.

this isn't about just Sorcs, ALL MAGIC BUILDS IN THE GAME ARE BEING MIFFED BECAUSE OF NIRNHONED

if they can fix Frag Proc(which im glad they did) they could adjust Nirnhoned to work like Reinforced for Spell Resist and increasing its value by a fair measure to make it still good but not useless. The fact an RNG based mechanic is more important to fix then something like Nirnhoned is troubling to me.

Leaving a broken/unbalanced thing like nirnhoned for this long on live, is indeed stupendous ZOS. Makes me doubt their resolve for a balanced and fun cyrodiil.

Yeah im interested in how these enchants will work now as well. If im reading this right, a Gold Enchant on a purple ring should have the gold enchants value, if that's the case, that will be huge!

Patch notes should read:

All Classes: Fixed an issue where some classes (notably Sorcerers) were still selecting Magicka as their primary resource. This has been addressed.

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Patch notes should read:

All Classes: Fixed an issue where some classes (notably Sorcerers) were still selecting Magicka as their primary resource. This has been addressed.

Sad but true.....

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Leaving a broken/unbalanced thing like nirnhoned for this long on live, is indeed stupendous ZOS. Makes me doubt their resolve for a balanced and fun cyrodiil.

Just reroll a NB and fire up CoD.

Why beat them when you can join them?

Honestly, with the way Nirnhoned is now, its either Go Stamina, or Go home....WW + Bosmer + Nightblade + CS = lots of stamina and regen, dodgeroll city while dressed in nirn, why would anyone play magicka?

Or play because you enjoy the playstyle, not because you gotta kill them all to have fun.

The Frags bug needed a fix, and I'm glad they got to it.

As to NH, and anything else that requires more than three seconds of thought and eight minutes of coding... CONSOLES. The answer is CONSOLES. We'll likely wait until fall.

FMonk wrote: »

...instead of posting a screenshot of the one time they got hit by a 15k crystal frag and yelling "OMG NERF SORC".

That's my thinking, too. Every once in a while, I'd launch a fairly ludicrous fragment. I wasn't necessarily fishing for one, but stuff happens. It frequently occurred to me how unfair that might look on someone's death recap.

I'm glad to see it fixed.

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

...The problem is Nirnhoned, it would take them NO TIME at all to make Nirnhoned like Reinforced but increase the Value say 10%...it would still be good, it just wouldn't be able to nerf all magic builds in the game...

And they will insist that they don't like bandaids, the solution is very hard, and we won't see any fix about this for the next months.

What's funny is that in a vacuum, I'd say this was a good change.

How it was working prior to 2.0.8 was not how any damage skill should be working.

As it is, taking away burst in this game's current meta is good.

Ruining it so that no magicka builds work against nirnhoned effectively is bad.

Ultimately, little things like this need to not be done right now. ZOS needs to go into the game and do vast, overarching balance sweep to fix the messups they have from the 1.6 launch. The thing they DID NOT DO so they could lock the code for console.


EDIT: What's also funny is how ZOS said no more balance passes until after console releases and here is a very, very major balance change.

Best fix is to nerf everything to the ground. This has gotten to be like WoW and can't imagine how much of a mess Arena PvP QQ is going to be.

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

All of last year was the year of the staff wielding bathrobe wearers, this year is gonna be all about the leather chaps wearing Wrecking blow spammers.

Hopefully next year it will be balanced and will update/nerf/fix in the favors of all classes.

Next year all of the PvPers will have been tired of waiting for Balance and be playing CU or something similar instead.

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/170248/patch-notes-v2-0-8#latest

Sorcerer

Dark Magic

Crystal Fragments (Crystal Shard morph): It is no longer possible for this ability’s damage bonus to proc multiple times in a row and stack.

So i guess its perfectly acceptable to run around Cyrodiil with broken/OP Nirnhoned reducing all magic damage by one half rendering over half the games builds and classes ineffective, yet nerfing a Sorc's frag proc stack that is RNG based nonetheless is more important.

Well magic based Nightblades, DragonKnights, Templars, and Sorc's more of the same i suppose...



Yes i know its counterable, but you must invest and give up far more then it costs the person to simply put on a piece of armor. That's simply not balanced.

1) It's not a nerf of crystal fragment; I consider it as rather a bug fix.
2) If Nirnhoned was nerf'd in the current state of game, magic damage would just be out of control.

I personally don't expect any change to the nirn trait before the next patch that will address the game balance in general.

Ezareth wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

1) It's not a nerf of crystal fragment; I consider it as rather a bug fix.
2) If Nirnhoned was nerf'd in the current state of game, magic damage would just be out of control.

I personally don't expect any change to the nirn trait before the next patch that will address the game balance in general.

Yeah it's funny noticing which bugs get fixed quickly and which do not.

I wonder when the NB Fear bug will get fixed (if every)?

Snipe (or stealth attacks in general) health desync. Death without showing you any animations...
But better fix those fragment proccs fast.