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Why don't people who want pledges gather outside of the dungeons while using zone chat?
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I'm all for suggesting people to use the grouping tools BUT I fully comprehend that a lot of people just won't, don't or are convinced that the grouping tool takes longer so they use zone chat.
O K...so here is the question:
Why don't people who want pledges gather outside of the dungeons while using zone chat?
My experience is people are using zone chat in many zones vs just going to the dungeon and wait outside and use zone chat. That to me seems like a better way to get a group
Ideas/Reasons why that isn't happening?
Please share....
O K...so here is the question:
Why don't people who want pledges gather outside of the dungeons while using zone chat?
My experience is people are using zone chat in many zones vs just going to the dungeon and wait outside and use zone chat. That to me seems like a better way to get a group
Ideas/Reasons why that isn't happening?
Please share....
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Latter✭✭✭*Not everyone has every zone unlocked, not finished the main storyline and/or cadwells silver and gold
*Alot less practical, asking zone in the capitol is just way faster.
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✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'm all for suggesting people to use the grouping tools BUT I fully comprehend that a lot of people just won't, don't or are convinced that the grouping tool takes longer so they use zone chat.
O K...so here is the question:
Why don't people who want pledges gather outside of the dungeons while using zone chat?
My experience is people are using zone chat in many zones vs just going to the dungeon and wait outside and use zone chat. That to me seems like a better way to get a group
Ideas/Reasons why that isn't happening?
Please share....
instanced pve.
you can stay for hours infront of a dungeon not seeing anybody while there are actually 300 players lfg but are distributed over different instances.
the grp finder should help here but it is similarily [snip] up by this system as the players are.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on May 9, 2015 10:20PMspelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'm all for suggesting people to use the grouping tools BUT I fully comprehend that a lot of people just won't, don't or are convinced that the grouping tool takes longer so they use zone chat.
O K...so here is the question:
Why don't people who want pledges gather outside of the dungeons while using zone chat?
My experience is people are using zone chat in many zones vs just going to the dungeon and wait outside and use zone chat. That to me seems like a better way to get a group
Ideas/Reasons why that isn't happening?
Please share....
I always wonder the same thing. I agree that using the Grouping Tool would be best for everyone but it is a wonder why so few people don't consider just hanging out at the dungeon. I recall that used to happen around 1.1, players would just sit near Spindle specifically and ask in /say for groups.
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✭✭✭✭✭The capital has just become the hub for pledge questing. As mentioned above, as a DC character, I can stand outside my gold zone Darkshade for hours and not find anyone wanting to do that quest. They all gather in one place, which really makes the most sense. Why scatter to 16 different zones when you can do the same thing in just one zone?
Yes, the grouping tool should solve this problem in theory, but it doesn't for a variety of both real and perceived reasons. It doesn't matter if the reasons are legitimate or not. If it leads to less people using the group finder, it's a strike against it.1 -
maryriv✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'm all for suggesting people to use the grouping tools BUT I fully comprehend that a lot of people just won't, don't or are convinced that the grouping tool takes longer so they use zone chat.
O K...so here is the question:
Why don't people who want pledges gather outside of the dungeons while using zone chat?
My experience is people are using zone chat in many zones vs just going to the dungeon and wait outside and use zone chat. That to me seems like a better way to get a group
Ideas/Reasons why that isn't happening?
Please share....
That's to old school.0 -
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✭If you followed that methodology for every Veteran pledge then the day you had the dungeon in your own Alliance that was not in your capital zone you would be asking in a zone that was 99.9% Non-Veteran players. For example for a DC player looking for people for Veteran Spindle you would be asking players that were levels 1-17. As others have said it makes sense for people to congregate at the pledge starting location to look for other people picking up the pledge.Edited by Curragraigue on May 9, 2015 10:48PMPUG Life - the true test of your skill
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✭✭✭✭✭Curragraigue wrote: »If you followed that methodology for every Veteran pledge then the day you had the dungeon in your own Alliance that was not in your capital zone you would be asking in a zone that was 99.9% Non-Veteran players. For example for a DC player looking for people for Veteran Spindle you would be asking players that were levels 1-17. As others have said it makes sense for people to congregate at the pledge starting location to look for other people picking up the pledge.
Which is why I'm curious why the grouping tool isn't being used. Many people are phased. Even in the capital city-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »If you followed that methodology for every Veteran pledge then the day you had the dungeon in your own Alliance that was not in your capital zone you would be asking in a zone that was 99.9% Non-Veteran players. For example for a DC player looking for people for Veteran Spindle you would be asking players that were levels 1-17. As others have said it makes sense for people to congregate at the pledge starting location to look for other people picking up the pledge.
Which is why I'm curious why the grouping tool isn't being used. Many people are phased. Even in the capital city
The grouping tool works if I'm looking to run quest X specifically. What if I would run any of quest X, Y or Z? I can queue up for X but I'd be more than happy to run Y if I had the opportunity. I'll never know if I'm only queued up for X for 2 hours.
Give me a group finder that lets me browse every group available. Allow those groups to post messages with more details about what they're looking for and allow them to ask me questions before accepting me automatically. Let me browse different groups and pick the one that suits me rather than queuing up for one specific quest with no other details given.
Edited by redspecter23 on May 9, 2015 11:50PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »If you followed that methodology for every Veteran pledge then the day you had the dungeon in your own Alliance that was not in your capital zone you would be asking in a zone that was 99.9% Non-Veteran players. For example for a DC player looking for people for Veteran Spindle you would be asking players that were levels 1-17. As others have said it makes sense for people to congregate at the pledge starting location to look for other people picking up the pledge.
Which is why I'm curious why the grouping tool isn't being used. Many people are phased. Even in the capital city
It is being used. But there is an urban legend running that it does not work. Which is not true, but the more people spread the legend, and thus the less people actually try to use it, the less the grouping tool 'works'. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, so to say.0 -
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✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Curragraigue wrote: »If you followed that methodology for every Veteran pledge then the day you had the dungeon in your own Alliance that was not in your capital zone you would be asking in a zone that was 99.9% Non-Veteran players. For example for a DC player looking for people for Veteran Spindle you would be asking players that were levels 1-17. As others have said it makes sense for people to congregate at the pledge starting location to look for other people picking up the pledge.
Which is why I'm curious why the grouping tool isn't being used. Many people are phased. Even in the capital city
Simple, LFG tool takes longer to find anyone and has mixed results at best. Asking in zone takes a few minutes and you get what you ask for. People use what works in practice.Edited by Curragraigue on May 9, 2015 11:58PMPUG Life - the true test of your skill
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✭✭✭My experience with the group finder:Select dungeon, search for group.
Twenty minutes later, "You joined the group."
Two members offline. Third leaves group. No chat.
Leave group, enter queue for dungeon again.
Thirty five minutes later, "You joined the group."
Only one other person in group. "Hi." "Hello."
Twenty minutes later, "xXxLegggolaasxXx joined the group." "hello" "hey" "hey".
Ten minutes later, "xXxLegggolaasxXx left the group."
"Firstguy left the group."
Re-enter queue for dungeon.
Five minutes later, "ESO has quit unexpectedly. Please submit crash report."
Submit report, restart ESO, enter queue for dungeon again.
Forty minutes later, "You joined the group." "hello" "hello" "hello" "hey"
Enter dungeon. "Wait a second. This isn't the one I queued up for."
Throw hands in air, say "screw it. At least I'm in a group now, even if it's not for what I wanted."
Enter first boss fight, one DPS crashes, tank hasn't got a clue what he's doing, group wipes.
Healer says "OMG you guys suck. We don't have enough DPS to do this." Rage quit.
Group disbands.
Throw monitor out window.
Go watch Star Trek reruns.
And that is why I don't use the group finder.
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Darkonflare15✭✭✭✭✭Well if the grouping tool works like it suppose to. Then we do not have worry about people not using it on console since we do not have to worry about using text chat to get a group going.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭My experience with the group finder:Select dungeon, search for group.
Twenty minutes later, "You joined the group."
Two members offline. Third leaves group. No chat.
Leave group, enter queue for dungeon again.
Thirty five minutes later, "You joined the group."
Only one other person in group. "Hi." "Hello."
Twenty minutes later, "xXxLegggolaasxXx joined the group." "hello" "hey" "hey".
Ten minutes later, "xXxLegggolaasxXx left the group."
"Firstguy left the group."
Re-enter queue for dungeon.
Five minutes later, "ESO has quit unexpectedly. Please submit crash report."
Submit report, restart ESO, enter queue for dungeon again.
Forty minutes later, "You joined the group." "hello" "hello" "hello" "hey"
Enter dungeon. "Wait a second. This isn't the one I queued up for."
Throw hands in air, say "screw it. At least I'm in a group now, even if it's not for what I wanted."
Enter first boss fight, one DPS crashes, tank hasn't got a clue what he's doing, group wipes.
Healer says "OMG you guys suck. We don't have enough DPS to do this." Rage quit.
Group disbands.
Throw monitor out window.
Go watch Star Trek reruns.
And that is why I don't use the group finder.
Lol funny but I need you to add a meme throwing the monitor out the window
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✭✭✭✭✭Darkonflare15 wrote: »Well if the grouping tool works like it suppose to. Then we do not have worry about people not using it on console since we do not have to worry about using text chat to get a group going.
It'll work cause it's gotta work and ppl say PC is beta for console but a lot of the systems on PC refuse to use will be "BETA tested by console".Edited by NewBlacksmurf on May 10, 2015 12:46AM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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1. not everyone has all the PvE zones unlocked.
2. Lots of people do not know where the dungeons are to begin with
3. for pledges, there are almost always a crap ton of people in the capitol of the 2nd zone looking for pledge groups, so zone chat asking is more practical and convientEdited by Cody on May 10, 2015 12:47AM0 -
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Parrotbrain✭✭✭I find that the group finder does not work all of the time. It only works when I queue for "All Dungeons", and then only some of the time. I think there are still issues they need to iron out with it. I personally think that the whole "Scaling dungeon thing" messed it up, as previously when the vet dungeons were of a fixed level, it grouped any person eligible for the dungeon together. Now it specifically looks for people with a similar veteran rank. I think if and when they remove vet levels they will be able to put in a more permanent fix and the pool of people you can group with will also be wider as everyone will then be lvl 501