Ghost - Templar PvP - Legend

JackDaniell · May 2015

Templar is under-powered they say, Vampire is no longer viable they say..
I say Templar OP!

https://youtu.be/NTfBwc9YLKk

Tripe · May 2015

That is probably the most entertaining ESO vid I've seen. Good stuff.

blabafat · May 2015

Nice video Jack!

JackDaniell · May 2015

Tripe wrote: »

That is probably the most entertaining ESO vid I've seen. Good stuff.

blabafat wrote: »

Nice video Jack!

Thanks guys

technohic · May 2015

Thats some awesome fighting..

bosmern_ESO · May 2015

It's amazing how a magicka templar is like a completely different class then a stamina templar.

Great video btw.

Poxheart · May 2015

Entertaining video, but you could tell those AD were not an organized group.

JackDaniell · May 2015

bosmern_ESO wrote: »

It's amazing how a magicka templar is like a completely different class then a stamina templar.

Great video btw.

Yeah it really shows the diversity of builds in this game

JackDaniell · May 2015

Poxheart wrote: »

Entertaining video, but you could tell those AD were not an organized group.

Organised groups are usually incredibly hard to fight, especially if your alone

Seri · May 2015

Another awesome vid. Thinking I need to try a stamplar at some point!

Rook_Master · May 2015

It makes me sad that Templar needs to be vampire to get a half-way decent escape.

Also, those people you are fighting seem to be idiots that can't follow Mistform.

technohic · May 2015

Looks like some of them follow. He is making good use of the speed boost from bow after roll dodging though and making it difficult to track him around LOS. Still; there are a lot that he just mists past.

hamon · May 2015

nice vid..

what i will say tho is you under sell your self. templars are most certainly not OP.

you need to rely on vigor and rally and mist and doge roll almost constantly to stay alive. even with that you also have repentance and ritual to use as well to bolster them. Even then you have to sacrifice sta food for regen to keep it all going.

thats a lot of work to have the same sort of survivability as a sorc with one button (hardened ward) and he still gets almost 2 full bars to play with (not including the insane advantage of a free 3rd bar just for slotting overload.

which is why any sorc can survive way easier than you could and have loads of space on 3 bars for all sorts of damage.

your style looked like it was a few quik hits then get out the way fast fast before they can really get you in thier sights. (was that the reason you dont even use WB?) cos even standing around long enough to cast WB would mean you get nuked down very easily.

the same game play using an NB or sorc would be way way more effective.

having said all that none of that is a reflection on you as a player. hats off you clearly have skill and do as much as anyone with the limited tools available as a templar..

but templar Op?? nope and your video just reinforces that imo.. cos even a player with the skills you posses has to comprimise so much in terms of damage (and rely on AW 10 for vigor) and be so active to do what 2 other classes can do way easier and better.

Rook_Master · May 2015

hamon wrote: »

nice vid..

what i will say tho is you under sell your self. templars are most certainly not OP.

you need to rely on vigor and rally and mist and doge roll almost constantly to stay alive. even with that you also have repentance and ritual to use as well to bolster them. Even then you have to sacrifice sta food for regen to keep it all going.

thats a lot of work to have the same sort of survivability as a sorc with one button (hardened ward) and he still gets almost 2 full bars to play with (not including the insane advantage of a free 3rd bar just for slotting overload.

which is why any sorc can survive way easier than you could and have loads of space on 3 bars for all sorts of damage.

your style looked like it was a few quik hits then get out the way fast fast before they can really get you in thier sights. (was that the reason you dont even use WB?) cos even standing around long enough to cast WB would mean you get nuked down very easily.

the same game play using an NB or sorc would be way way more effective.

having said all that none of that is a reflection on you as a player. hats off you clearly have skill and do as much as anyone with the limited tools available as a templar..

but templar Op?? nope and your video just reinforces that imo.. cos even a player with the skills you posses has to comprimise so much in terms of damage (and rely on AW 10 for vigor) and be so active to do what 2 other classes can do way easier and better.

Awesome post.

It really is more of a reflection on OP's skill that he can do this with a Templar. If he was a NB he would be absolutely wrecking face.

Soris · May 2015

Nice video. After watching it, I came up to a conclusion. EU players are so obsessed with Fear, Fossilise, Luminous Shards and all those stuff that you cannot block or dodge.

hamon · May 2015

Rook_Master wrote: »

hamon wrote: »

nice vid..

what i will say tho is you under sell your self. templars are most certainly not OP.

you need to rely on vigor and rally and mist and doge roll almost constantly to stay alive. even with that you also have repentance and ritual to use as well to bolster them. Even then you have to sacrifice sta food for regen to keep it all going.

thats a lot of work to have the same sort of survivability as a sorc with one button (hardened ward) and he still gets almost 2 full bars to play with (not including the insane advantage of a free 3rd bar just for slotting overload.

which is why any sorc can survive way easier than you could and have loads of space on 3 bars for all sorts of damage.

your style looked like it was a few quik hits then get out the way fast fast before they can really get you in thier sights. (was that the reason you dont even use WB?) cos even standing around long enough to cast WB would mean you get nuked down very easily.

the same game play using an NB or sorc would be way way more effective.

having said all that none of that is a reflection on you as a player. hats off you clearly have skill and do as much as anyone with the limited tools available as a templar..

but templar Op?? nope and your video just reinforces that imo.. cos even a player with the skills you posses has to comprimise so much in terms of damage (and rely on AW 10 for vigor) and be so active to do what 2 other classes can do way easier and better.

Awesome post.

It really is more of a reflection on OP's skill that he can do this with a Templar. If he was a NB he would be absolutely wrecking face.

yep , and when you really look at it, the whole thing is in a keep where he (skillfully) uses walls and darting in and out of doorways/stairs to break LOS. Plus when your fighting attackers inside a keep they have plenty of other things like gaurds and stuff creating a bit of chaos allowing you to dart in and hit them unawares.

that gives the illusion of much better survivability than is actually present imo.. some of those encounters in open ground would end in death , cos his burst is pretty low. (very low compared to NB's) and without the ability to be able to cloak of bolt escape. rolling around and mist just arn't as good. even having stacked regen to allow a fair amount of it..

cos with his 16k hp . one WB or frags to the face or snipe and hes dead. its notable that we don't see one of those land in the whole video.

now alot of that is due to his excellent movement and use of the keep , but in open ground thats just not going to work. without shields 16k is a free one shot for a large percentage of people running around in cyrodiil right now.

Mumyo · May 2015

Soris wrote: »

Nice video. After watching it, I came up to a conclusion. EU players are so obsessed with Fear, Fossilise, Luminous Shards and all those stuff that you cannot block or dodge.

I think u rarely can pull that off on eu server. There just has to be 1 smart guy among them to totally wreck him.
Otherwise i think he is a good player but that doesnt make his enemies good.
I mean the most of the time i died by that aoe pvp skill and i got hit by hit so hard... that Templar would truly be 1shotted.
Hope this doesnt sound bad, im a true fan! Gooood player!

ToRelax · May 2015

Nice video...

And could @hamon please stop whining about Hardened Ward in a templar PvP video thread or jsut leave

.
This thread was certainly not meant as a nerf sorc thread, make another one again, if you wanna qq. Or speak about Templar. Thank you.

Ashamray · May 2015

Most of abilities used which save your life and deal damage are not even templar's.

hamon · May 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Nice video...

And could @hamon please stop whining about Hardened Ward in a templar PvP video thread or jsut leave .
This thread was certainly not meant as a nerf sorc thread, make another one again, if you wanna qq. Or speak about Templar. Thank you.

lol i made one comparison which i happen to think is valid that in a long pot discussing the templar perspective.... but really just get over it man, i,ll say what i want about anything i choose , deal with it.

Dredlord · May 2015

great vid, really like your playstyle.

OtarTheMad · May 2015

Great vid man, you're always a tough fight... really enjoy it. Makes me want to unretired my Templar and give him a whirl again.

EDIT- It just goes to show that if you really learn your class and test out all the different play styles of your build then no class is truly under powered.

technohic · May 2015

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Great vid man, you're always a tough fight... really enjoy it. Makes me want to unretired my Templar and give him a whirl again.

EDIT- It just goes to show that if you really learn your class and test out all the different play styles of your build then no class is truly under powered.

LOL He used all of what? 4 Templar abilities? Purify, channeled focus, repentance and javelin. So, sure; as long as you use rally and vamp for your heals, you don't even need that big Templar heal.

The_Drexill · May 2015

technohic wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Great vid man, you're always a tough fight... really enjoy it. Makes me want to unretired my Templar and give him a whirl again.

EDIT- It just goes to show that if you really learn your class and test out all the different play styles of your build then no class is truly under powered.

LOL He used all of what? 4 Templar abilities? Purify, channeled focus, repentance and javelin. So, sure; as long as you use rally and vamp for your heals, you don't even need that big Templar heal.

Which isn't much different than other classes fyi. NB needs vigor for heals too.

technohic · May 2015

The_Drexill wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Great vid man, you're always a tough fight... really enjoy it. Makes me want to unretired my Templar and give him a whirl again.

EDIT- It just goes to show that if you really learn your class and test out all the different play styles of your build then no class is truly under powered.

LOL He used all of what? 4 Templar abilities? Purify, channeled focus, repentance and javelin. So, sure; as long as you use rally and vamp for your heals, you don't even need that big Templar heal.

Which isn't much different than other classes fyi. NB needs vigor for heals too.

I'm just saying that this is the usual reason given for a lot of things templars lack. BOL is usually the big one people talk about. Purifying ritual is the real gem.

Rust_in_Peace · May 2015

Nice video Ebonheart.

Last time I saw you there were people in my group who thought you were a nightblade lol...

Saft · May 2015

hamon wrote: »

nice vid..

what i will say tho is you under sell your self. templars are most certainly not OP.

you need to rely on vigor and rally and mist and doge roll almost constantly to stay alive. even with that you also have repentance and ritual to use as well to bolster them. Even then you have to sacrifice sta food for regen to keep it all going.

thats a lot of work to have the same sort of survivability as a sorc with one button (hardened ward) and he still gets almost 2 full bars to play with (not including the insane advantage of a free 3rd bar just for slotting overload.

which is why any sorc can survive way easier than you could and have loads of space on 3 bars for all sorts of damage.

your style looked like it was a few quik hits then get out the way fast fast before they can really get you in thier sights. (was that the reason you dont even use WB?) cos even standing around long enough to cast WB would mean you get nuked down very easily.

the same game play using an NB or sorc would be way way more effective.

having said all that none of that is a reflection on you as a player. hats off you clearly have skill and do as much as anyone with the limited tools available as a templar..

but templar Op?? nope and your video just reinforces that imo.. cos even a player with the skills you posses has to comprimise so much in terms of damage (and rely on AW 10 for vigor) and be so active to do what 2 other classes can do way easier and better.

Wow just sum it up great, topic starter is obviously great pvp player, but as NB or Sorc he could do it sooo mutch better. Especially NB.

Saft · May 2015

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Great vid man, you're always a tough fight... really enjoy it. Makes me want to unretired my Templar and give him a whirl again.

EDIT- It just goes to show that if you really learn your class and test out all the different play styles of your build then no class is truly under powered.

Please unretire your templar, we are a dying breed (literally) i think you get depressed after 2 hours of gameplay and go back to you NB or Sorc tho.

OtarTheMad · May 2015

technohic wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Great vid man, you're always a tough fight... really enjoy it. Makes me want to unretired my Templar and give him a whirl again.

EDIT- It just goes to show that if you really learn your class and test out all the different play styles of your build then no class is truly under powered.

LOL He used all of what? 4 Templar abilities? Purify, channeled focus, repentance and javelin. So, sure; as long as you use rally and vamp for your heals, you don't even need that big Templar heal.

I was trying to give the player a compliment, you fight him and then say the same thing lol. Those are four good Templar skills though but maybe that is just my opinion.

Saft, love to but I am trying to give some attention to my newly rebuilt DK to learn the build a little better. I do wish Templar's had an escape ability, right now it's basically Sun Shield spam to get away from tough situations.

JackDaniell · May 2015

Dredlord wrote: »

great vid, really like your playstyle.

Thanks you

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Great vid man, you're always a tough fight... really enjoy it. Makes me want to unretired my Templar and give him a whirl again.

EDIT- It just goes to show that if you really learn your class and test out all the different play styles of your build then no class is truly under powered.

You totally should unretire him/her! Templar is by far the most fun class for me to play

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

Nice video Ebonheart.

Last time I saw you there were people in my group who thought you were a nightblade lol...

The sneakiest Templar in Tamriel!

hamon wrote: »

nice vid..

what i will say tho is you under sell your self. templars are most certainly not OP.

you need to rely on vigor and rally and mist and doge roll almost constantly to stay alive. even with that you also have repentance and ritual to use as well to bolster them. Even then you have to sacrifice sta food for regen to keep it all going.

thats a lot of work to have the same sort of survivability as a sorc with one button (hardened ward) and he still gets almost 2 full bars to play with (not including the insane advantage of a free 3rd bar just for slotting overload.

which is why any sorc can survive way easier than you could and have loads of space on 3 bars for all sorts of damage.

your style looked like it was a few quik hits then get out the way fast fast before they can really get you in thier sights. (was that the reason you dont even use WB?) cos even standing around long enough to cast WB would mean you get nuked down very easily.

the same game play using an NB or sorc would be way way more effective.

having said all that none of that is a reflection on you as a player. hats off you clearly have skill and do as much as anyone with the limited tools available as a templar..

but templar Op?? nope and your video just reinforces that imo.. cos even a player with the skills you posses has to comprimise so much in terms of damage (and rely on AW 10 for vigor) and be so active to do what 2 other classes can do way easier and better.

Thanks Hamon, and I know that Templar has to do much more than some other classes to play in this style, but that's why I like it so much. I actualy have a Nightblade (v10) that is much more powerful than my Templar. I choose to play Templar simply because I'm in love with it

I don't really think the point of this game is to just stomp all over people in PvP, I actually like to find different ways to move and I always have more fun playing a weaker build that I enjoy instead of a powerful one I don't. Their is allot of aspects to PvP in ESO, and my favorite is the ability for me to play how I want to and still be effective doing so.

Ley · May 2015

That video makes me want to take my Templar into pvp.