Sleeping NPC's Are Aware Of You Wile You Are Sneaking! Why?
Blade_07
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These NPC's are laying down sleeping so why are they able to be aware of you?...... In Oblivion this was not the case so seriously why was this missed in ESO? And yes I know some of you will say "They are laying down resting but are awake". Sorry but that dont fly with me. They cant ALL be doing that.
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Can they actually report the crime? Your screenshot indicates you are hidden.0 -
The justice system as a whole is flawed and implemented as nothing more than an afterthought. Its the same reason why I get flagged for attacking friendly NPC's that are fighting against an enemy NPC if my sword attack or AoE hits them. They should be flagged an non attackable, but it was too hard to find every quest or phase of the game.
Lazy, poor implementation. Poor planning.3 -
Blade_07✭✭✭✭c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Can they actually report the crime? Your screenshot indicates you are hidden.
You cant commit a crime with them cuz it wont let you and they are "aware" of you.“Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”0 -
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Blade_07✭✭✭✭badbeansnub18_ESO wrote: »The justice system as a whole is flawed and implemented as nothing more than an afterthought. Its the same reason why I get flagged for attacking friendly NPC's that are fighting against an enemy NPC if my sword attack or AoE hits them. They should be flagged an non attackable, but it was too hard to find every quest or phase of the game.
Lazy, poor implementation. Poor planning.
Thats been the norm for most of the game!
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Clarification: You cannot Pickpocket someone who is aware of you, but you can still steal and such.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Can they actually report the crime? Your screenshot indicates you are hidden.
You cant commit a crime with them cuz it wont let you and they are "aware" of you.
But yeah this is ridiculous, I don't know why NPCs don't have their awareness turned off when in a bed or something. Not sure if the coding is too hard or what but you'd think if they can code NPCs to be unaware when you're behind them, they could code them to be unaware when in a bed.PC-NA | Been around since closed beta
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Clarification: You cannot Pickpocket someone who is aware of you, but you can still steal and such.c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »Can they actually report the crime? Your screenshot indicates you are hidden.
You cant commit a crime with them cuz it wont let you and they are "aware" of you.
But yeah this is ridiculous, I don't know why NPCs don't have their awareness turned off when in a bed or something. Not sure if the coding is too hard or what but you'd think if they can code NPCs to be unaware when you're behind them, they could code them to be unaware when in a bed.
I'm sure most of us would wake up if someone were digging in our pockets while we sleep.
...Although I never really keep anything in my pockets while sleeping. So I don't understand how not being able to is really a big deal. As long as you can still steal from surrounding containers as normal.
Pick-pocketing, in general, is best accomplished by going after a target that is awake and distracted.
Various social experiments have proven how oblivious people are when going about their day.
And yes, I've picked pockets before. Only as a joke and only from friends, returning whatever I had taken shortly thereafter. My friends have always blamed me for whenever anything is missing, but knew if it was me it was only a joke.0 -
Moonscythe✭✭✭✭✭badbeansnub18_ESO wrote: »The justice system as a whole is flawed and implemented as nothing more than an afterthought. Its the same reason why I get flagged for attacking friendly NPC's that are fighting against an enemy NPC if my sword attack or AoE hits them. They should be flagged an non attackable, but it was too hard to find every quest or phase of the game.
Lazy, poor implementation. Poor planning.
But in both Oblivion and Skyrim if you were fighting an enemy with guards or other NPCs also fighting and you accidentally hit them you were in trouble. They would stop fighting the daedra or dragon and fight you instead so there's nothing new there.Scura di Notte - Altmer Nightblade (gear)
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✭Just to clarify, folks in Tamriel only rest their bodies while sleeping. Their minds and spirits stand guard so no one can steal their sweet rolls.
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✭Maybe they heard of the new Justice System and sleep with one eye open now^^
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