LOL WE ARE NOT EVEN SAFE AT OUR OWN NORTH AND SOUTH GATES ANYMORE

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · April 2015

https://youtu.be/6d75BnT_T_A

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · April 2015

FORGOT TO SAY WATCH BOTTOM RIGHT U WILL SEE WHAT I MEAN

Aeladiir · April 2015

HODOR

Thymos · April 2015

LoL

That's kind of funny, now they'll have to go and fix that.

pecheckler · April 2015

I have great respect for the innovation Cyrodiil brings to PvP gaming but it is balance issues like this that just help emphasize how much I dislike it. I mean just look at it, everyone is just standing there lobbing projectiles back and forth. Considering how awesome ESO's group dungeon game play is with its twitch combat and heavy action, I am surprised we still don't have a PvP archetype that does away with the long corpse runs and boring fort siege battles, and instead focuses on on a much smaller battlefield with less than a few dozen players. I'm sure such a thing would be popular.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · April 2015

aww cmon he just dragon leaped in right... is that what I'm seeing here..

I remember back in the day, that I ported into the western gate for AD and there were DC inside the upper gate and were ganking us as we ported in, they were 6-8 dragonknights (when they were even more op) that used either the Leap or chaingrab to get up there, we had to horse travel with a large group from the eastern gate over to the west gate to kill them..

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · April 2015

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

aww cmon he just dragon leaped in right... is that what I'm seeing here..

I remember back in the day, that I ported into the western gate for AD and there were DC inside the upper gate and were ganking us as we ported in, they were 6-8 dragonknights (when they were even more op) that used either the Leap or chaingrab to get up there, we had to horse travel with a large group from the eastern gate over to the west gate to kill them..

Yeah i know dragon leap but i found it funny plus they are not supposed to be able to set foot in our gates but was funny

firstdecan · April 2015

Why doesn't ZoS just make the areas inside the gate huge AoE zones? Any enemies who get into the gate wouldn't last long.

CaptainObvious · April 2015

Just make it to where players that enter the safe haven area are considered captured and have to pay 100,000 x Alliance Level in AP to ransom themselves to regain control of the character.

Ysne58 · April 2015

CaptainObvious wrote: »

Just make it to where players that enter the safe haven area are considered captured and have to pay 100,000 x Alliance Level in AP to ransom themselves to regain control of the character.

I really like that solution.

phairdon · April 2015

Or like in another game I played. Once you entered off limits area's, you were given 5 seconds to retreat before instant death.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

firstdecan wrote: »

Why doesn't ZoS just make the areas inside the gate huge AoE zones? Any enemies who get into the gate wouldn't last long.

Then we would forever miss out on the 4 Skyshards behind the gates.

carlos.trevisan.contatonrb19_ESO · April 2015

I found quite fun! Unbalancing? sure! But fun!

Ysne58 · April 2015

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

firstdecan wrote: »

Why doesn't ZoS just make the areas inside the gate huge AoE zones? Any enemies who get into the gate wouldn't last long.

Then we would forever miss out on the 4 Skyshards behind the gates.

ZOS should move those skyshards elsewhere.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

Ysne58 wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

firstdecan wrote: »

Why doesn't ZoS just make the areas inside the gate huge AoE zones? Any enemies who get into the gate wouldn't last long.

Then we would forever miss out on the 4 Skyshards behind the gates.

ZOS should move those skyshards elsewhere.

This would be awesome, then everyone has a fair chance to get these

driosketch · April 2015

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

aww cmon he just dragon leaped in right... is that what I'm seeing here..

I remember back in the day, that I ported into the western gate for AD and there were DC inside the upper gate and were ganking us as we ported in, they were 6-8 dragonknights (when they were even more op) that used either the Leap or chaingrab to get up there, we had to horse travel with a large group from the eastern gate over to the west gate to kill them..

Yeah i know dragon leap but i found it funny plus they are not supposed to be able to set foot in our gates but was funny

Can anyone tell what happens to the DK after the last kill? Sort of just banished in a puff.

qsnoopyjr · April 2015

what the heck is this,
DC owning the map??
Wow, this never happens when I'm online on Azura Star.. Always EP being too coordinated wooping our butts, and AD slowly lose stuff and slowly get stuff back.

This must be Chillrend or a DC buff server.

If you don't like getting wooped, than goto the AD buff server.

Dont'cha know, this game is all about buff servers?

Forestd16b14_ESO · April 2015

And ZoS still think lag is the only problem in pvp.

krim · April 2015

Balance issue? Looks like people just getting rekt. I thought this was war.

Moonshadow66 · April 2015

qsnoopyjr wrote: »

what the heck is this,
DC owning the map??
Wow, this never happens when I'm online on Azura Star.. Always EP being too coordinated wooping our butts, and AD slowly lose stuff and slowly get stuff back.

This must be Chillrend or a DC buff server.

If you don't like getting wooped, than goto the AD buff server.

Dont'cha know, this game is all about buff servers?

I checked on Azura's Star about an hour ago, DC took over.

ChampionSheWolf · April 2015

Other than the OPs inability to turn off the caps lock key, what I am seeing is someone complaining because PvP happened in PvP, and they feel insulted because they weren't 100% safe.

OrphanHelgen · April 2015

Well if everyone played like that guy in the video, no wonder the other alliance own that much. You just stood there, used one heavy attack, thats it.

Oolou · April 2015

ChampionSheWolf wrote: »

Other than the OPs inability to turn off the caps lock key, what I am seeing is someone complaining because PvP happened in PvP, and they feel insulted because they weren't 100% safe.

I dunno. What I see is someone sharing something they found funny with folk here on the forum.
Not everyone is here to complain

qsnoopyjr · April 2015

Whats this I see??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DV9TwsosyI

AD crushing DC??? Too many AD players not enough DC players???

Again, I think it all depends on what server you play, this is the only game I know of that has **buff servers**... Servers that one alliance claims victory over and all the other alliances let them reign victorious on that server.

BTW I don't see any zerg forces that big on DC or that coordinated.

Stamden · April 2015

pecheckler wrote: »

I have great respect for the innovation Cyrodiil brings to PvP gaming but it is balance issues like this that just help emphasize how much I dislike it. I mean just look at it, everyone is just standing there lobbing projectiles back and forth. Considering how awesome ESO's group dungeon game play is with its twitch combat and heavy action, I am surprised we still don't have a PvP archetype that does away with the long corpse runs and boring fort siege battles, and instead focuses on on a much smaller battlefield with less than a few dozen players. I'm sure such a thing would be popular.

You know, it didn't used to be like this. Back in the day, PvP wasn't a ranged LoS fest. There was tanks charging in, Sorcs going around the flank, healers in the back.. it was sooo good. Everything was very coordinated and a group of 15 could take out a zerg of 50 if they played it right.

Why isn't it like this anymore? Well, believe it or not it all relates back to DKs. Nowadays there is really no need for tanks in organized PvP. A meat shield perma-blocking can be ignored; it is smarter to hit the enemy DPS. But back in the day, DKs could not be ignored. They were a huge threat if left unfocused, yet focusing them was exactly what they wanted you to do. A DK could perma-talon your g, drop (multiple) standards of might, and survive the fight in the frontline while the rest of your group cleans them up.

Once talon's range got gutted, DKs were much less of a threat. After consecutive ult nerfs, dropping more then 1 standard per fight pretty much never happened. DK Tanks lost their ability to be a threat, and lost the stats gain from multiiple ultimate drops. At that point, tanks became more of an irrelevant meatshield that didn't need to be included in the modern meta.

Do I think DKs were OP? Yes, absolutely. But I do believe PvP got significantly less fun without them because of how they changed the meta.

Naivefanboi · April 2015

Neighbor wrote: »

pecheckler wrote: »

I have great respect for the innovation Cyrodiil brings to PvP gaming but it is balance issues like this that just help emphasize how much I dislike it. I mean just look at it, everyone is just standing there lobbing projectiles back and forth. Considering how awesome ESO's group dungeon game play is with its twitch combat and heavy action, I am surprised we still don't have a PvP archetype that does away with the long corpse runs and boring fort siege battles, and instead focuses on on a much smaller battlefield with less than a few dozen players. I'm sure such a thing would be popular.

You know, it didn't used to be like this. Back in the day, PvP wasn't a ranged LoS fest. There was tanks charging in, Sorcs going around the flank, healers in the back.. it was sooo good. Everything was very coordinated and a group of 15 could take out a zerg of 50 if they played it right.

Why isn't it like this anymore? Well, believe it or not it all relates back to DKs. Nowadays there is really no need for tanks in organized PvP. A meat shield perma-blocking can be ignored; it is smarter to hit the enemy DPS. But back in the day, DKs could not be ignored. They were a huge threat if left unfocused, yet focusing them was exactly what they wanted you to do. A DK could perma-talon your g, drop (multiple) standards of might, and survive the fight in the frontline while the rest of your group cleans them up.

Once talon's range got gutted, DKs were much less of a threat. After consecutive ult nerfs, dropping more then 1 standard per fight pretty much never happened. DK Tanks lost their ability to be a threat, and lost the stats gain from multiiple ultimate drops. At that point, tanks became more of an irrelevant meatshield that didn't need to be included in the modern meta.

Do I think DKs were OP? Yes, absolutely. But I do believe PvP got significantly less fun without them because of how they changed the meta.

i see your point and agree to some extent, but they were rediculous, kinda like sorcs shield stackin now. but idk maybe players should be able to stand in slaughter fish and not die? thats not an exploit right? lol.
oh well i learned with gw2 pvp on this scale is really just for fun, thats why i thought their attempt at "esport" was so hilarious.

jelliedsoup · April 2015

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

aww cmon he just dragon leaped in right... is that what I'm seeing here..

I remember back in the day, that I ported into the western gate for AD and there were DC inside the upper gate and were ganking us as we ported in, they were 6-8 dragonknights (when they were even more op) that used either the Leap or chaingrab to get up there, we had to horse travel with a large group from the eastern gate over to the west gate to kill them..

Sorry you can't use "back in the day"as that phrase is used when something happened in the distant pat. yesterday does not qualify.

signed by the back in the day police.

Stamden · April 2015

jelliedsoup wrote: »

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

aww cmon he just dragon leaped in right... is that what I'm seeing here..

I remember back in the day, that I ported into the western gate for AD and there were DC inside the upper gate and were ganking us as we ported in, they were 6-8 dragonknights (when they were even more op) that used either the Leap or chaingrab to get up there, we had to horse travel with a large group from the eastern gate over to the west gate to kill them..

Sorry you can't use "back in the day"as that phrase is used when something happened in the distant pat. yesterday does not qualify.

signed by the back in the day police.

What? I'm talking about the first 3-4 months of the game. DKs got those nerfs in Summer of 2014.

Ithilis · April 2015

I thought they said it is bannable for DK to use dragon leap like that and that they fixed it? Do I live in different reality O.o

Tonnopesce · April 2015

I've tryed to use dragon leap maybe 2 times a month ago when campering the enemy gate and i've been teleported immediatly in my "safe" gate i guess something has changed... And is not good

Jakhajay · April 2015

Lol, as if the EP hasn't done exactly this to the AD in the past....