Please Don't Offer Race Changes (Poll)

Psychobunni · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

I would totally offer them if I were ZOS and then two months later...add in some "balances" to the lacking races while simultaneously nerfing the sup OP races(this seems to be approach so far) , then a few months later rinse and repeat...the cycle can go on forever in the name of "balance" meanwhile ZOS banks the whole time. That is just from a shrewd make money stand point.

Personally, I think you should be stuck with race/class choices as well. Park em as a spare bank, or delete and reroll. (both of which I've done)

PKMN12 · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

Not sure if i would use it or not, either way, it would be a good way to make money and honestly, who does it effect? how does someone changing their race effect someone else?

Cyhawk · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

So the people who would never use it and don't want to do it, whats your reason exactly? It doesn't hurt you in any way shape or form.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

The core problem of this feature is that it promotes the same kind of bad behavior that we've seen coming from other MMO's over the years. This sort of sale hurts the players and the quality of the game. Most of us picked a race because of a particular style we would want to play. The problem with selling us race changes, is all they have to do is tweak a particular unpopular race to be overpowered for a while. Voila, instant cash as everyone flocks to the underplayed race for doing what amounts to absolutely nothing. Then a few months down the road if they need a little cash injection, they can find some other race to make the next flavor of the month, and surprisingly more people will flock to that. I disagree with this because it leads to the gaming company becoming lazy with their content. Why bother with making a good game, when you can get a bunch of suckers to keep paying for an unbalanced game with a lot of frivolous nonsense? I've seen this happen time and again to good games and I really hope this never happens. I would far prefer that racial passives were completely removed from the game, rather than see them sell race changes. Think about what you really want people. If you want to pay for something in the game, it should be actual content that is actually worth paying for.

Ultimately, it would be much better for the game if the races were simply balanced. If you wanted to play as a Khajiit, why should you have to change over some numbers? Wouldn't it be better that ZoS gets rewarded for making a balanced game and doing actual work, than getting $10 or $25 or whatever unfair value for doing absolutely nothing and maintaining the game at a poorly balanced level? Do you see the problem some of us have with this? The problem isn't player choice at all. I'm all for player choice. The problem is that racial changes promote a bad behavior from ZoS, inherently rewarding them for laziness and bad game design. I'd personally rather hold them up to a high standard and see them improve the game.

Anilahation · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

I don't like that I choose a dunmer, and I want to RP on my main in a High elf guild.

Delgent · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

I want Bethesda to offer this option and charge for it. They need to make as much money as possible on the backs of their fans.

Alphashado · April 2015

It's pretty easy for people that weren't effected by 1.6 to come up with all kinds of petty reasons why race change is a bad idea while telling people that have months invested into VR characters to "roll another character".

I think a lot of you would be singing a different tune if it was YOUR VR14 character that was effected by developmental changes.

Davadin · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

if ZOS introduces racial change, 90% of the population will be imperials.

let's not do that.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

Alphashado wrote: »

It's pretty easy for people that weren't effected by 1.6 to come up with all kinds of petty reasons why race change is a bad idea while telling people that have months invested into VR characters to "roll another character".

I think a lot of you would be singing a different tune if it was YOUR VR14 character that was effected by developmental changes.

I play a V14 Argonian Nightblade. I think that's self explanatory. I was one of those potion argonian builds, so yes I was effected. I would much prefer to see them balance the races or remove racial passives altogether, than I would to go the cheap and dirty method of selling us race changes. They've already adjusted the Bosmer in recent times to be better, and I've been noticing an awful lot of Bosmer appearing in the game of late. I certainly understand the irritation about race change, but I think we are barking up the wrong tree if we push them into selling us race changes. The Soft Caps being removed are the biggest cause of problems with racial balance right now. I'd much rather see ZoS work out balancing the game properly, than narrowing the game down to a few of the optimal races. If they can't do that, I'd rather see them remove racial passives altogether. Why should I have to get rid of my nice scaly argonian just so I can be viable? That's nonsense, and shame on ZoS if they go that route.

Emma_Overload · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

ThatHappyCat wrote: »

... And if you absolutely must introduce race (and possibly class) changes, please make them cost a ton of crowns.

WOW, really? So every time ZoS puts something in the Crown Store you don't want, everyone who does want it should be punished?

Delgent · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

ThatHappyCat wrote: »

... And if you absolutely must introduce race (and possibly class) changes, please make them cost a ton of crowns.

WOW, really? So every time ZoS puts something in the Crown Store you don't want, everyone who does want it should be punished?

No, everyone shouldn't be punished....Bethesda should make as much money as possible off of it. That's the only thing that matters.

Elder_III · April 2015

I won't use, but don't care if they add race changes.

I would like to see an option for players who had a VR+ level character prior to the big changes in Update 6 be allowed to have a one time, character specific race change. Outside of this situation I don't want them in ESO. However, if they do put them on the cash shop it's pretty understandable as a money maker...

King Bozo · April 2015

I won't use, but don't care if they add race changes.

Changing races is no different then resetting skill or champ points. Everyone should have the freedom to do It and waste gold.

Forestd16b14_ESO · April 2015

I really don't care gonna be a nord period. I just sitting here waiting for the barber shop.

Stamden · April 2015

There should just be two options in the poll:

1. I am an Imperial
2. I want to be an Imperial

Alphashado · April 2015

Neighbor wrote: »

There should just be two options in the poll:

1. I am an Imperial
2. I want to be an Imperial

People keep saying this and just isn't true. There is a gigantic number of people that simply want a race that fits the play style they chose for that character when it was created.

I chose Breton for my NB when I created her shortly after launch because I wanted a melee ranged rogue type character and at the time, magicka was the smart choice.

Since then, many NB melee abilities have been switched to stamina by zos in order to make stamina builds more viable. And it was effective. However it made melee magicka NBs sub par. Now if you want to get max performance from a melee NB, you have to use a stamina build.

So where does this leave my Breton NB? In a pretty crappy place with useless racial passives. Almost any race would be better and it's no fault of my own.

I could care less about imperial and would be much happier with Redgard for example.

Plus anyone can already upgrade their account and create an imperial.

AngryNord · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

DeLindsay wrote: »

Adding Race/Faction change hurts NOBODY a

Except those who get kicked from dungeon groups because "we only want Imperials"

PKMN12 · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

AngryNord wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Adding Race/Faction change hurts NOBODY a

Except those who get kicked from dungeon groups because "we only want Imperials"

then blame ZOS for not caring about balance, not the players wanting to have/be the best/

AngryNord · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

Neighbor wrote: »

There should just be two options in the poll:

1. I am an Imperial
2. I want to be an Imperial

What did you say?
*bangs mead mug hard on table and starts sharpening axe*

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

PKMN12 wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Adding Race/Faction change hurts NOBODY a

Except those who get kicked from dungeon groups because "we only want Imperials"

then blame ZOS for not caring about balance, not the players wanting to have/be the best/

Which comes to my point about not wanting them to do race changes. Its a cop out, not only from us, in the sense that we have given up on them ever properly balancing the game, but a cop out for them if they do it. We input ideas and demands on one another don't we, player and company. Think clearly about what you're asking for and what you want. I've eventually left quite a few games not because I hated those games, but because greed and bad motivators ruined those games. I had no problem giving STO money for instance, when they actually produced content and the game was more or less balanced (albeit flawed). When the game became all about throwing money at it, and nothing to do with actually enjoying the world with player skill and knowledge... that was the problem. If money solves all problems, its a terrible game, period. I paid a subscriber fee to enjoy a good quality world. Its more entertaining than watching Game of Thrones, or whatever the kids are into these days, because I'm actively doing something. I'm willing to pay developers money, when they actually deliver on service. If the rewards they receive suddenly become unrelated to providing that service, then my rewards (The cash I give them) also ceases as well. The Crown store is all well and good, but if it becomes totally divested from a service based system, it can and will ultimately ruin the game. That is my concern. This is a Quid Pro Quo here. Demand what you want from the company as a customer. If you don't get what you really want, don't pay for it. Understand the point here?

golfer.dub17_ESO · April 2015

Bad poll, not voting.

I see no reason to be against race changes personally.

AngryNord wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Adding Race/Faction change hurts NOBODY a

Except those who get kicked from dungeon groups because "we only want Imperials"

If they aren't getting kicked for that reason now, they won't be getting kicked for it even after race changes.

No one is going to be that unreasonable.

PKMN12 · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

PKMN12 wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Adding Race/Faction change hurts NOBODY a

Except those who get kicked from dungeon groups because "we only want Imperials"

then blame ZOS for not caring about balance, not the players wanting to have/be the best/

PKMN12 wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Adding Race/Faction change hurts NOBODY a

Except those who get kicked from dungeon groups because "we only want Imperials"

then blame ZOS for not caring about balance, not the players wanting to have/be the best/

Which comes to my point about not wanting them to do race changes. Its a cop out, not only from us, in the sense that we have given up on them ever properly balancing the game, but a cop out for them if they do it. We input ideas and demands on one another don't we, player and company. Think clearly about what you're asking for and what you want. I've eventually left quite a few games not because I hated those games, but because greed and bad motivators ruined those games. I had no problem giving STO money for instance, when they actually produced content and the game was more or less balanced (albeit flawed). When the game became all about throwing money at it, and nothing to do with actually enjoying the world with player skill and knowledge... that was the problem. If money solves all problems, its a terrible game, period. I paid a subscriber fee to enjoy a good quality world. Its more entertaining than watching Game of Thrones, or whatever the kids are into these days, because I'm actively doing something. I'm willing to pay developers money, when they actually deliver on service. If the rewards they receive suddenly become unrelated to providing that service, then my rewards (The cash I give them) also ceases as well. The Crown store is all well and good, but if it becomes totally divested from a service based system, it can and will ultimately ruin the game. That is my concern. This is a Quid Pro Quo here. Demand what you want from the company as a customer. If you don't get what you really want, don't pay for it. Understand the point here?

no, not really, i still do not get your opposition to it. Not EVERYONE is going to race change ONLY because they want to do it to another race. quite a few people will use it simply to change to a race they might end up wanting to be instead.

mind you, it is apparently already in the works, so it is likely coming, since it is something they can get money from, expect it soon

DeLindsay · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

AngryNord wrote: »

DeLindsay wrote: »

Adding Race/Faction change hurts NOBODY a

Except those who get kicked from dungeon groups because "we only want Imperials"

Said literally NOONE EVER.

BEZDNA · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

I WANT RACE CHANGE!!!! I'M FED UP WITH LEVELING NEW CHARACTERS FROM PATCH TO PATCH, DEPENDING ON WHICH BUILDS (MAGICKA OR STAMINA) AND RACEC THEY MAKE SUPERIOR!

In 1.6 I alredy lvled up second NB, becous my first one was Argonin, and they nerfed him into oblivion, alredy lvled up second templar, becous my first one was a breton and he can't be competitive as a dps with imperials or redguards.

PLEASE ADD RACE CHANGE!!! I CAN"T WAIT FOR IT!!!

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

If they add a race change it should be free. The players should not pay for ZoS' screw-ups.

xMovingTarget · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

Alphashado wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

You are what you are.

Unless you are what ZoS changed you into w/o your consent. Then you are what ZoS turned you into - a sub optimal character.

Lore isn't a huge part of the game for me. I chose racials last year that matched the build I envisioned at the time in order to make an efficient build. That no longer applies through no fault of my own.

I would rather have em offer a free one time race change for affected ppl. That would be okay with me. But nothing else.

Wolfshead · April 2015

I won't use, but don't care if they add race changes.

Well personal i would use for i make my Char after my char i have been play in AD&D for almost 28 years now so i dont honest care much about race racials.

But i would buy new hairstyle and tattoo and face change if the add a barbershop in the game and the add those to crown store. But if people want to change race it is basically up to them and no other so why would OP even care about it?

It is there own money and the have right do what the want with own well earn money on one less can judage people if want change the race or not.

xMovingTarget · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

BEZDNA wrote: »

I WANT RACE CHANGE!!!! I'M FED UP WITH LEVELING NEW CHARACTERS FROM PATCH TO PATCH, DEPENDING ON WHICH BUILDS (MAGICKA OR STAMINA) AND RACEC THEY MAKE SUPERIOR!

In 1.6 I alredy lvled up second NB, becous my first one was Argonin, and they nerfed him into oblivion, alredy lvled up second templar, becous my first one was a breton and he can't be competitive as a dps with imperials or redguards.

PLEASE ADD RACE CHANGE!!! I CAN"T WAIT FOR IT!!!

Cmon abs, don't be lazy

The_Sadist · April 2015

I won't use, and don't want to see race changes.

I'm half hoping the race change option is limited to some extent.. like 'you can only change to a race within your faction regardless of account status' sort of thing. If anything it will make certain races appear more.

DeLindsay · April 2015

I want to change my race, even if racials are balanced without big changes.

xMovingTarget wrote: »

I would rather have em offer a free one time race change for affected ppl. That would be okay with me. But nothing else.

The idea of a one time freebie change due to ZoS's *ahem* "balance" attempts is a reasonable idea. Outside of that, what's "ok with you" or not is moot. If enough Players want the feature then ZoS will probably add it at some time and you are perfectly free not to use it. Other Players using it does NOT IN ANY WAY effect your game play.