joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »
joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Has yet to have an issue on his Magicka NB with Dark Cloak not actually working, if countered, he simply goes back into cloak. Because Altmer OP. 36k Magicka OP. 2k Regen OP. Get. On. My. Level. Stamblades sucketh orangutan nips!Good catch. Thanks for the correction. Even though I always use piercing mark I tend to mix up the name.oh, and its piercing mark, not reapers.
This quote is confusing even me....
Yes, I stole it.
Has yet to have an issue on his Magicka NB with Dark Cloak not actually working, if countered, he simply goes back into cloak. Because Altmer OP. 36k Magicka OP. 2k Regen OP. Get. On. My. Level. Stamblades sucketh orangutan nips!
joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Has yet to have an issue on his Magicka NB with Dark Cloak not actually working, if countered, he simply goes back into cloak. Because Altmer OP. 36k Magicka OP. 2k Regen OP. Get. On. My. Level. Stamblades sucketh orangutan nips!
I've played your build and it has some serious flaws.
1. No health
2. No stamina
3. No sneak and reduction sneak detect bonuses
Your basically min/maxing magicka and relying on altmer passives to support your min/max playstyle.
1. To max magicka you are seriously sacrificing health and stamina. In cyrodil where everyone basically plays shield stacking tanks, regardless of class, while you have max magicka at the expense of health and stamina is a death sentence.
2. No stamina. Your sneaking capability is seriously weak. Your stamina is being drained way to fast leaving you little to no stamina for dodge rolls or rapid maneuvers. If your not sneaking, your a target in light armor and your magicka shields won't help. NB doesn't get a shield spell other than healing ward. Which won't save you. Harness/dampen magicka is only good against spells. This won't save you against the two handlers and wrecking blow spammers.
3. One of NB strength is its stealth ability and sneak attack damage. That's why bosmer or khajit is so popular. Your missing out on meter detection and critical damage bonuses. If you cloak as much as you say you are, you should be complimenting your cloak bonuses rather than spamming cloak using up a large pool of magicka. Spamming cloak doesn't work well when you are hit with any of the counters I've mentioned above. I'm surprised your having no issues with the counters I've mentioned above. Everyone has to deal with it. Admit it, your not invincible with cloak as you make yourself out to be.
Sure you can spam siphoning, mage, and destruction spells all day long with your build but DOTs aren't powerful enough in this game to work.
Your build is really good at AP grinding in delves. However, I invite you to try it on thornblade against the uber elites. I guarentee you will have issues trying to cloak like the rest of us.
joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Tired of people claiming cloak and stealth is OP.
1. Flares
2. Reapers Mark
3. Mage Light
4. Caltrops
5. Detect Invis Pot
6. Magicka Detonation
7. Crushing Shock
8. Curse
9. Any AOE within range
10. Stuck in Detect Stealth Mode bug
Am I missing anything? Fellow NB feel free to add to the list.
Do any other classes "o-***" skills get mitigated like this?
L2P people.
Flares (Alliance Support skill) is a really good one. As a Sorc i always make sure to have Daedric mines and maybe a flare on my bar. But I always go with mines. Works against anybody really.joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Tired of people claiming cloak and stealth is OP.
1. Flares
2. Reapers Mark
3. Mage Light
4. Caltrops
5. Detect Invis Pot
6. Magicka Detonation
7. Crushing Shock
8. Curse
9. Any AOE within range
10. Stuck in Detect Stealth Mode bug
Am I missing anything? Fellow NB feel free to add to the list.
Do any other classes "o-***" skills get mitigated like this?
L2P people.
joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Tired of people claiming cloak and stealth is OP.
1. Flares
2. Reapers Mark
3. Mage Light
4. Caltrops
5. Detect Invis Pot
6. Magicka Detonation
7. Crushing Shock
8. Curse
9. Any AOE within range
10. Stuck in Detect Stealth Mode bug
Am I missing anything? Fellow NB feel free to add to the list.
Do any other classes "o-***" skills get mitigated like this?
L2P people.
Reaper's mark eh?
hm...
fail.
joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »Tired of people claiming cloak and stealth is OP.
1. Flares <- useless thx to the ballistic movement i´m out of its effect area before it impacts
2. Reapers Mark <- not accessable by 3 classes and NB fights are decidede by whom sees whom first and nothiing else
3. Mage Light <- with the current netcode you can WB a magelighted person befor he realizes you - really effective
4. Caltrops <-some what true
5. Detect Invis Pot <- the only true counter wich got significantly nerfed in 1.7
6. Magicka Detonation <- lol just recast cloak after explosion^^
7. Crushing Shock <-double cloak innitially and thats a non issue
8. Curse <- see magica det
9. Any AOE within range <-supress aes before you cloak with e.g. fear...
10. Stuck in Detect Stealth Mode bug <-annoying the same as the buggy immidiate restalthing after every attack for the attacked one
Am I missing anything? Fellow NB feel free to add to the list.
Do any other classes "o-***" skills get mitigated like this?
L2P people.
Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"
Cloak itself isn't OP but it's really annoying in combination with surprise attack and fear spamming. How to counter this?
Cloak itself isn't OP but it's really annoying in combination with surprise attack and fear spamming. How to counter this?
Radiant Magelight negates the stun from stealth and reduces stealth crit damage. Immovable potions make you immune to CC. (handy against alot of classes not just NB's. I run them myself even as a NB)