Sypher and Aetcha - Duo Nightblade 2vX Gameplay/Commentary

Sypher · April 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmzTdl_KEFc

Thanks for watching!

Bahalul · April 2015

I got destroyed by you two outside sejanus today, with about 5 EP around. I coulda popped detect pot but I didnt wanna bother cus I know I'm gonna get destroyed anyway.

Are you still using 5 Skirmisher/ 3 Shadow walker/ 3 Ashen grip? You seem to have slightly more hp (21k) than your build video (about 18k if I remember right)

Sypher · April 2015

Bahalul wrote: »

I got destroyed by you two outside sejanus today, with about 5 EP around. I coulda popped detect pot but I didnt wanna bother cus I know I'm gonna get destroyed anyway.

Are you still using 5 Skirmisher/ 3 Shadow walker/ 3 Ashen grip? You seem to have slightly more hp (21k) than your build video (about 18k if I remember right)

Same set up, but we took a well just before running to fight at sej.

Tintinabula · April 2015

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

IxSTALKERxI · April 2015

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

If you use alessian set you can increase your immunity from 4 seconds to 7 seconds.

Otherwise use this potion:

Columbine + Cornflower + Wormwood = Magicka restore/ detection/ Unstoppable

It counters their cloak and fear which they depend on.

ToRelax · April 2015

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

So players using the good skills at their disposal are a waste of time. Got it.
But you do realize you already get 8 sec cc immunity after break free, right?

olsborg · April 2015

CC immunity lasts 5 sec if im not mistaken.

Bashev · April 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

So players using the good skills at their disposal are a waste of time. Got it.
But you do realize you already get 8 sec cc immunity after break free, right?

It is not 8 seconds!

ToRelax · April 2015

Bashev wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

So players using the good skills at their disposal are a waste of time. Got it.
But you do realize you already get 8 sec cc immunity after break free, right?

It is not 8 seconds!

5 second auto immunity, 8 second on break, I am pretty sure. Feel free to proof me wrong, always good to learn something new.

Bashev · April 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

So players using the good skills at their disposal are a waste of time. Got it.
But you do realize you already get 8 sec cc immunity after break free, right?

It is not 8 seconds!

5 second auto immunity, 8 second on break, I am pretty sure. Feel free to proof me wrong, always good to learn something new.

Fear doesn't give CC immunity if you do not break it. I have the feeling that sometimes I am feared more often than every 8 seconds. I ll test it tonight. Anyway the issue is not that I am CC, but that sometimes I cannot break it fast enough because of bugs (some skills combination, CC during roll-dodge, etc).

ToRelax · April 2015

Bashev wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

So players using the good skills at their disposal are a waste of time. Got it.
But you do realize you already get 8 sec cc immunity after break free, right?

It is not 8 seconds!

5 second auto immunity, 8 second on break, I am pretty sure. Feel free to proof me wrong, always good to learn something new.

Fear doesn't give CC immunity if you do not break it. I have the feeling that sometimes I am feared more often than every 8 seconds. I ll test it tonight. Anyway the issue is not that I am CC, but that sometimes I cannot break it fast enough because of bugs (some skills combination, CC during roll-dodge, etc).

True - what kills me pretty often these days is that I am feared while in the air, it's unbreakable then. And as a good Sorc I alway jump a lot...

RoamingRiverElk · April 2015

ToRelax wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

So players using the good skills at their disposal are a waste of time. Got it.
But you do realize you already get 8 sec cc immunity after break free, right?

It is not 8 seconds!

5 second auto immunity, 8 second on break, I am pretty sure. Feel free to proof me wrong, always good to learn something new.

Fear doesn't give CC immunity if you do not break it. I have the feeling that sometimes I am feared more often than every 8 seconds. I ll test it tonight. Anyway the issue is not that I am CC, but that sometimes I cannot break it fast enough because of bugs (some skills combination, CC during roll-dodge, etc).

True - what kills me pretty often these days is that I am feared while in the air, it's unbreakable then. And as a good Sorc I alway jump a lot...

Stop jumping so much, it's annoying! My sorc has invested more in bunny skills than you, let me do the jumping instead.

By the way, is it just me or are the ones who complain the loudest about "fear spam" the ones who don't have proper stamina management?... Why should they be able to maximize damage but get no disadvantages with that choice?

IxSTALKERxI · April 2015

lol I thought immunity was 4 seconds. My bad.

If someone could clarify how long CC break free immunity is that'd be great.

Nala_ · April 2015

awesome vid sypher.

and to whoever asked, you dont get immunity to fear unless you break it.

Imdrefan · April 2015

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

lol I thought immunity was 4 seconds. My bad. If someone could clarify how long CC break free immunity is that'd be great.

I'm pretty sure it's 5 seconds

Panda244 · April 2015

Nice video, I've yet to run into you again since that little engagement where you got stuck in the rocks at BRK

I had Saber Ali chasing me from Roebeck to Fare last night and he eventually got me, I see Jago more often than I see you Sypher, stopped playing your EP/DC toons?

Bouvin · April 2015

Sypher wrote: »

Bahalul wrote: »

I got destroyed by you two outside sejanus today, with about 5 EP around. I coulda popped detect pot but I didnt wanna bother cus I know I'm gonna get destroyed anyway.

Are you still using 5 Skirmisher/ 3 Shadow walker/ 3 Ashen grip? You seem to have slightly more hp (21k) than your build video (about 18k if I remember right)

Same set up, but we took a well just before running to fight at sej.

Is the Skirmisher set BoA? Not seeing any for sale anywhere.

Panda244 · April 2015

Bouvin wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

Bahalul wrote: »

I got destroyed by you two outside sejanus today, with about 5 EP around. I coulda popped detect pot but I didnt wanna bother cus I know I'm gonna get destroyed anyway.

Are you still using 5 Skirmisher/ 3 Shadow walker/ 3 Ashen grip? You seem to have slightly more hp (21k) than your build video (about 18k if I remember right)

Same set up, but we took a well just before running to fight at sej.

Is the Skirmisher set BoA? Not seeing any for sale anywhere.

Skirmisher is BoE, not sure where the green version drops but the purple drops from trash/bosses in Trials... Or maybe that's viper... It's all the same!

frozywozy · April 2015

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

TheBucket · April 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

That's cool.. Just make Talons and BoL an Alliance War skill as well. I'm down with it.

TheBucket · April 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

Skirmisher is BoE, not sure where the green version drops but the purple drops from trash/bosses in Trials... Or maybe that's viper... It's all the same!

Yea, I was running Skirmisher as soon as 1.6 dropped, and was recommending it to people. If I would of known it would take off like this. I would of bought every piece on the market that was selling for 1500g a few months ago and resold them for the 20k current price.

Soulac · April 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

There are skills like that and thanks to WW, everyone got a fear.

Bashev · April 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

Every class has a CC skill which bypass block.

ToRelax · April 2015

Soulac wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

There are skills like that and thanks to WW, everyone got a fear.

Aspect of Terror, Tangling Webs (Arachnaphobia Synergy), Turn Undead, Werewolf Transformation, Roar

Two of them require active use of the most expensive ultimate in the game (and can't be used by vampires), one only works against vampires/werewolfs/deadra, last one requires the use of a synergy.

I don't see the problem in NB having a special skill with Aspect of Terror, but "everyone got fear" let's it sound a bit easier than it is in reality

.

Lord_Hev · April 2015

What they should do, is make Mass Hysteria(the fear morph that 99% of NBs use and abuse) unable to go through block... but then to compensate, you give the other morph that is vastly underused(Aspect of Terror) -the- fear that goes through block.

This would be better balanced I think. Aspect of Terror has a timer for being armed, cannot be mindlessly activated and spammed, and requires clever positioning and tactical awareness. You get your prey into the trap, then you get a great fear that goes through block.

Then, with Mass Hysteria which you can just spam aimlessly, you make this one unable to go through block. Therefore it is balanced with the other morph and now, both have utility. Mas Hysteria is easy to use and convenient - fast when you need it. But it does not go through block. For that, you will need Aspect of Terror.

Just my 2 cents, since this subject was brought up here.

Mystikkal · April 2015

TheBucket wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Skirmisher is BoE, not sure where the green version drops but the purple drops from trash/bosses in Trials... Or maybe that's viper... It's all the same!

Yea, I was running Skirmisher as soon as 1.6 dropped, and was recommending it to people. If I would of known it would take off like this. I would of bought every piece on the market that was selling for 1500g a few months ago and resold them for the 20k current price.

I did that

Also did the same with Dreugh.. was also going cheap pre-1.6.. but I ended up giving most of it to friends rather than sell it.. saw it coming from a mile away!

Tintinabula · April 2015

TheBucket wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

That's cool.. Just make Talons and BoL an Alliance War skill as well. I'm down with it.

Talons is hardly comparable to BOL..it may be comparable to fear. I'll grant you that

But sure!!..ill trade talons for fear( or BOL) any day

Soulac wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

There are skills like that and thanks to WW, everyone got a fear.

I have to point this out..a fear that can be cast every how many seconds by NBs??..cannot possibly be compared to an ultimate that costs the caster 300 ult. Try again.

frozywozy · April 2015

Tintinabula wrote: »

TheBucket wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

That's cool.. Just make Talons and BoL an Alliance War skill as well. I'm down with it.

Talons is hardly comparable to BOL..it may be comparable to fear. I'll grant you that But sure!!..ill trade talons for fear( or BOL) any day

Soulac wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

perma fear is so broken...and two NBs alternating fear is just silly..really not worth your time battling NBs who depend that much on fear. They should at least make the invulnerability from break free last ten seconds . 1 second to realize you're feared..a second to cast break free..a second to find your target....2 seconds to close the gap and try to dps or immobilize the NB..feared again.

Fear should be in the Alliance War tree, never a specific class skill. Otherwise they need to add other ccs which go through block for all classes.

There are skills like that and thanks to WW, everyone got a fear.

I have to point this out..a fear that can be cast every how many seconds by NBs??..cannot possibly be compared to an ultimate that costs the caster 300 ult. Try again.

I don't even know why that guy compare any other class skill with nightblade fear. When you are feared by a nightblade, you cannot hold block and you die in 1second if you don't cc break in time (which is glitched btw). When you talon someone, he can still hold block and is perfectly fine. so yeah.. waste of efforts from his part.

WRX · April 2015

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

lol I thought immunity was 4 seconds. My bad. If someone could clarify how long CC break free immunity is that'd be great.

Its 100% 4 seconds. And I think the immunity should kick in once you break the fear, not when it affects you. This would fix many issues.

Fatalyis · April 2015

Just wanted to interrupt the de-railing to let Sypher know that I liked his video.

Carry on

Tintinabula · April 2015

Its not a derail..its a discussion about the video and the use of fear.