ESO Plus Suggestion

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

I think the ESO Plus bonuses need to be reworked and be broken down into different tiers. Having done a PLUS one month thing i've come to the conclusion that for 14.99 the 10% bonuses and crowns is really not worth it at all. Won't be doing that again since all I really care about is the exp gain that comes from it.

For 14.99 i truly believe the "+10% Upgrade to Character Progression" should be more along the lines of 30-50%. Make it worthwhile to purchase, not a dismal 10%

For a better breakdown for a suggestion

$4.99= 500 Crowns and +15% Upgrade to Character Progression
$9.99= 1000 Crowns and +30% Upgrade to Character Progression
$14.99= 1500 Crowns and +50% Upgrade to Character Progression

You would get way more sales overall with better bonuses, or still have a cheapy for some cash. But yea the current 14.99 is utter garbage for the price. Again though, those numbers are just a suggestion that I think would be good, purely my opinion.

SHADOW2KK · April 2015

Priority queuing in PvP would be good too, plenty of way better models out there, e.g Premium for the Battlefield 3/4 games, ESO Plus is the most underwhelming package ever.

But agree with ya OP to a extent:}

Laerwen · April 2015

That reaks of pay to win my friend, not that I would mind. I can afford 15 bucks a month.

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Priority queuing in PvP would be good too, plenty of way better models out there, e.g Premium for the Battlefield 3/4 games, ESO Plus is the most underwhelming package ever.

But agree with ya OP to a extent:}

Yea dude I was thinking the same thing for sure. The game is fun to grind out the first time around, but the game has been out for quite a while, tons of new changes since retail launch.

Would love to make new characters but for the love of dear baby jesus i'm not going to go through that ridiculous grind again. But given the opportunity (the suggestion that I gave in my original post) with the exp bonuses I most certainly would.

SHADOW2KK · April 2015

ZeuZLoD wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Priority queuing in PvP would be good too, plenty of way better models out there, e.g Premium for the Battlefield 3/4 games, ESO Plus is the most underwhelming package ever.

But agree with ya OP to a extent:}

Yea dude I was thinking the same thing for sure. The game is fun to grind out the first time around, but the game has been out for quite a while, tons of new changes since retail launch.

Would love to make new characters but for the love of dear baby jesus i'm not going to go through that ridiculous grind again. But given the opportunity (the suggestion that I gave in my original post) with the exp bonuses I most certainly would.

Hehe aye I hear ya matey, and aye that would be good tbh, anything is better than what we have on ESO Plus...

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

Laerwen wrote: »

That reaks of pay to win my friend, not that I would mind. I can afford 15 bucks a month.

Win at what? Bonus to exp is just a gap closer for exp gained in a long run. In no way shape or form would exp gain give an unfair advantage. Anything dropped in game, crafted, or won by pvp grind can all be done/acquired without anything. So really all the exp gain would do would give us normal working folks a faster leveling program, thats it.

xMovingTarget · April 2015

ZeuZLoD wrote: »

Laerwen wrote: »

That reaks of pay to win my friend, not that I would mind. I can afford 15 bucks a month.

Win at what? Bonus to exp is just a gap closer for exp gained in a long run. In no way shape or form would exp gain give an unfair advantage. Anything dropped in game, crafted, or won by pvp grind can all be done/acquired without anything. So really all the exp gain would do would give us normal working folks a faster leveling program, thats it.

Not saying eso plus is pay to win. But Champion System

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Not saying eso plus is pay to win. But Champion System

Just another huge time sink, which is what my suggestion would help close the gap from no lifers to normal working class people.

Either way, it was merely a suggestion. But to me 14.99 for 10% exp gain is not worth it.

Mettaricana · April 2015

i would like atleast 30% exp bonus and a decent 30% cut to research time

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

Mettaricana wrote: »

i would like atleast 30% exp bonus and a decent 30% cut to research time

Yea that would work. I am curious if they are thinking of breaking it down into different pay tiers.

BugCollector · April 2015

It's just that there is no DLC at the moment. Bring out the DLC Zenimax. The subscribers deserve it!

c.p.garrett1993_ESO · April 2015

$9.99= 1000 Crowns and +15% Upgrade to Character Progression
$14.99= 1500 Crowns and +25% Upgrade to Character Progression

Let's be realistic. 50% seems pretty ridiculous.
I definitely support the idea of multiple tiers but $4.99 is too low, since the subscription will include future DLC.
25% could be 30% as well, but doubling the difference for only $5 seems unlikely.

I would be more than happy with the $9.99 model.

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

$9.99= 1000 Crowns and +15% Upgrade to Character Progression
$14.99= 1500 Crowns and +25% Upgrade to Character Progression

Let's be realistic. 50% seems pretty ridiculous.
I definitely support the idea of multiple tiers but $4.99 is too low, since the subscription will include future DLC.
25% could be 30% as well, but doubling the difference for only $5 seems unlikely.

I would be more than happy with the $9.99 model.

Or perhaps simply more options, and separated. Have like a "All Future DLC" simply another option that could be checked in. Yea maybe 50% was a bit much, but you get where I was going with the suggestion.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO · April 2015

ZeuZLoD wrote: »

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

$9.99= 1000 Crowns and +15% Upgrade to Character Progression
$14.99= 1500 Crowns and +25% Upgrade to Character Progression

Let's be realistic. 50% seems pretty ridiculous.
I definitely support the idea of multiple tiers but $4.99 is too low, since the subscription will include future DLC.
25% could be 30% as well, but doubling the difference for only $5 seems unlikely.

I would be more than happy with the $9.99 model.

Or perhaps simply more options, and separated. Have like a "All Future DLC" simply another option that could be checked in. Yea maybe 50% was a bit much, but you get where I was going with the suggestion.

That's a good idea as well. Separate the DLC from the lower tiers and charge only for the crowns and upgrade to progression
And yeah, I get where you were going. I definitely like the idea, I just thought they would be very unlikely to do 50% at only $15.

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

c.p.garrett1993_ESO wrote: »

That's a good idea as well. Separate the DLC from the lower tiers and charge only for the crowns and upgrade to progression
And yeah, I get where you were going. I definitely like the idea, I just thought they would be very unlikely to do 50% at only $15.

Not going to lie though, if they did have lets say a $19.99 for 50% exp I so would do it. Just makes coming home from work to level that much better haha. I'm sure there would be quite a bit of people that would very easily do $19.99 for 50% exp gains without hesitation.

Rune_Relic · April 2015

Lets just sell CP instead

hamgatan · April 2015

CP is illegal mmkay..

Anentet · April 2015

I would say ~20%xp bonus, maybe a mount you can only use while subscribed, and they should bring back some kind of weekly or monthly loyalty rewards. Otherwise, there isnt a reason to keep a 15/mo.. 10% boost just isn't worth it, although at least you get the crowns if you like the shop items.. So I guess as long as they update the store with fair priced items its ok and something I'd stick to because I like cosmetic, but they could offer more for sure.

Auricle · April 2015

I don't think having anything higher than 10% is a good idea. People would be shrieking about P2W until they were blue in the face. But it would be nice to see some other aspects of the sub bonuses improved. An extra character slot, added bank space, or some free respecs per month would make me feel a little better about giving Zeni my money. I think it's a pretty reasonable thing to ask.

I do think it's important to keep the bonuses out of the P2W arena, however. Convenience only. I don't want anyone to feel pressured to have a subscription.

Sylveria_Relden · April 2015

Completely agree that the bonus scaling would be optimal to what we have currently in sub offerings. That said, I also agree with @Auricle that everyone's going to scream bloody murder over the "P2W" implications of it- even if it's mainly just a time boost in essence.

Being someone who manages a department and works full-time, it would be attractive to me in that I don't have tons of time to play during the work-week, and sometimes even on the weekends, depending on projects. For those who don't have a lot of time to sink into the game because of RL responsibility, I can see where this would be attractive to them as well.

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

I truly do not understand how increase exp rate is p2w lol. So you just level up faster, that's it, how is that paying to win haha. I guess people will always have something to *** about regardless of zero factual proof.

Sylveria_Relden · April 2015

ZeuZLoD wrote: »

I guess people will always have something to *** about regardless of zero factual proof.

^ This has always been, and will always be true.

ZeuZLoD · April 2015

Sylveria_Relden wrote: »

Being someone who manages a department and works full-time, it would be attractive to me in that I don't have tons of time to play during the work-week, and sometimes even on the weekends, depending on projects. For those who don't have a lot of time to sink into the game because of RL responsibility, I can see where this would be attractive to them as well.

That pretty much sums up for the majority of the normal working class people that don't have a lot of time to play, which is why I suggested this type of thing.

c.p.garrett1993_ESO · April 2015

P2W indicates anything that provides an significant advantage over free players.
In my opinion any sort of subscription bonus is excluded from P2W classification so long as that subscription is priced fairly and competitively so that it is plausible for each player. They could have 50%+ as long as it was priced under a standard and affordable price.
P2W, to me, is more like items that give an immediate advantage such as better gear, consumables, mounts, or allows massive (temporary) exp boosts or level skipping. A 30% boost seems entirely fair.

Bouvin · April 2015

Here's another ESO+ Suggestion.

Make it not suck.

Maybe actually give us a reason to WANT to subscribe.. like some new content? Lag fixes? Bug fixes?

Oh ya.. all the stuff we've been asking for the past year while paying monthly subs.

ZeuZLoD · May 2015

Bouvin wrote: »

Here's another ESO+ Suggestion.

Make it not suck.

Maybe actually give us a reason to WANT to subscribe.. like some new content? Lag fixes? Bug fixes?

Oh ya.. all the stuff we've been asking for the past year while paying monthly subs.

Yea thats pretty much everyones gripe right now haha. Also its smart marketing to milk what they can with the garbage bonuses you get with the $14.99 one. Until people stop buying that and the sales flatten, they will keep it at that. Only a drop in sales with they actually start boosting exp rates and everything to make it more attractive to lure in buyers again.

Primalreptile · May 2015

I agree, ESO plus membership should be increased to atleast 30 - 50% bonus exp gain. Right now 10% isnt worth paying for.

Heromofo · May 2015

I like your idea mate alot of us are pushing for a better ESO Plus.

Keep up the good fight

Heromofo

Denaia · May 2015

I hope not they increase XP gains. I like to complete zones fully when leveling while they aren't all greyed out.. That would actually push me from subbing.

Bonusses are fine.. I just want new content (the main reason I sub is for DLC).

Heromofo · May 2015

BugCollector wrote: »

It's just that there is no DLC at the moment. Bring out the DLC Zenimax. The subscribers deserve it!

Yeah but another problem with eso plus

We would only rent the dlc so if we stop eso plus after 6 months boom no dlc for you now and you have to pay the full amount.

I would like to see also that if you sub for six months that any dlc in that time becomes yours after.

Daemons_Bane · May 2015

Going above +10% would imo be bad.. I still miss the option to turn it off too.. My sorcerer is only about 2/3 throuh Glenumbra and the quests are starting to turn grey :-/