Azura Star EP Night Cap -- Need another big DC team here.

Domander · April 2015

Domander wrote: »

You DC realize that AS is home to many EP role players right?

No I'm not kidding, unless they have recently moved. The point is that the pop bar doesn't always reflect players concerned with the map.

They paid for the game same as us though

I remember zoning in one day when the map was all yellow and I saw 3 bars EP. I was wondering what was going on. 50 EP standing around the transitus with the RP text going.

I want to emphasize this is not an excuse or anything, I just wanted to shed some light on something noone really talks about when they compare sizes (population sizes)

When I saw 3 bars of EP RPers... the map was all yellow with no fighting and the other 2 alliances were at 1 bar. I remember I used to get a little frustrated trying to defend against the zerg anytime we would push in to our home keeps. I kept wondering where the hek all the EP on the server were... then later I figured it out.

They probably moved though, or they probably will after all the pop locking and lag.

KarshtheWraith · April 2015

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

I feel sorry in a way for DC. They tried so hard to unseat EP and were within a hairbreadth of it, only AD derped up hard mode and decided instead of pushing the reigning emp faction they'd poke the lion instead. Traditionally the 'enemy of my enemy' and all that applies in this case as you want to weaken the strongest faction, but so many times we should've lost keeps and didn't. It's something I've seen in every faction on multiple campaigns and is just one of those things.

I don't want AD or DC to give up. I want them to fight back with everything they got. There are always those days when everything just isn't enough, but EP's been in that same position to. I've seen both sides of the coin. A rough balance has to be carefully maintained, or else populations get so skewed the camp ends up a mess. DC and AD could stand to recruit a few more strong players on their end, and there's still camps that aren't always poplocked even on primetimes. I think they're suffering from the same problem EP had last cycle where we'd be poplocked and half of that poplock was lollygagging in delves. It's very aggravating to experience on your own faction. Please don't give up the fight.

Confidence is suddenly surging through me.

Laggus · April 2015

The real question is why do all the Aussies seem to roll EP toons??

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · April 2015

Laggus wrote: »

The real question is why do all the Aussies seem to roll EP toons??

We used to say the exact same thing about AD on old Volendrung and early Haderus. Just goes to show you.

stonescorsa · April 2015

The reason why my guild moved to azura was because last campaign was completely dominated by dc so we wanted a challenge. We fought tyberious many times and it was great. The campaign reset we hit it hard play here every day and havent seen tyberious. Seems like they dont want the challenge and have jumped to another campaign. The past few days its been epic. Ad the quitus or how you spell it (my bad bro) has brought with him a good amount of ad to the server and the fights have been great. Eskimo and prett sob come to which was awsome. And the fights have been amazing. I dont really care about losing scrolls or emp its what happens.

As you heard from sirston pride and sotp moved here because we wanted to be the lesser faction seems like the tides have turned and the complaints of ep outnumbering others is showing. 2 main guilds have moved here and a few smaller guilds.

Oughash · April 2015

Roselle wrote: »

I no longer love lamp.

1 + 1 = Chair.

QED.

Jauriel · April 2015

Domander wrote: »

You DC realize that AS is home to many EP role players right?

No I'm not kidding, unless they have recently moved. The point is that the pop bar doesn't always reflect players concerned with the map.

They paid for the game same as us though

I remember zoning in one day when the map was all yellow and I saw 3 bars EP. I was wondering what was going on. 50 EP standing around the transitus with the RP text going.

You must have missed where several large ep guilds admitted to changing their home to AS and promised to wipe DC off the map because we all abandoned TB. You must have missed where they did this same thing to us on TB. You also must have missed where Wheeler admitted ep outnumbers DC 4 to 1.

Jauriel · April 2015

sirston wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

I don't want Azura's to turn into yet another buff server. There's just never any semblance of balance. Its always an extreme one way or another. AD had less people than I have fingers on a hand defending their keeps last night, and whatever resistance DC had in the early early morning frittered away thanks to the surprise rubberbanding and F-U login errors. Some of the resident EP guilds need to consider moving elsewhere, and several AD/DC guilds need to either get themselves back in the game or rally more people. The score was fairly even steven the first couple of days but now EP's gaining a lead that isn't going to go away without resistance. TB is poplocked before primetime. AS is just about poplocked. Chill is the only camp besides BWB that's poplocked across the board. Unless things change right away we'll be looking at a repeat of the buff server cycle.

just to let you know a total of 3 EP major guilds Pride/SOTP/Shadow guild? moved from Thornblade to Azuras to get out of 200 person queues to a totally owned DC server. after we have been in Azura's for about a month now it seems all the DC jumped ship and left for chillrend, besides maybe the kids from the east coast that play from 5pm to 9pmEST the server dies for a period of time. so to be honest if you want 3 guilds to move to chillrend. We probably won't. Also DC needs to rally under one banner instead of being one side elites and the other Pug Mc-Pugs I know this because Ive seen your Zone chat. And to be clear a lot of EP guilds and guild member's Hate it when people say "Maybe you should re-roll!" because it splits your guilds opinions and cause's problems from with in. So to understand the problem on your side, you have to look at the other sides point of view. So to say you guys are under populated is a overstatement since im pretty such pop locks on all faction sides are the same number.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150033/zos-will-you-address-population-caps

I really can't believe what I am reading. You guys are now denying there is a pop imbalance?! Is there no end to the fantasies you will create in your effort to defend your unfair advantage "wins"? DC did unite under one banner and it was on TB. And we all know how that ended.

They tried so hard to unseat EP and were within a hairbreadth of it, only AD derped up hard mode and decided instead of pushing the reigning emp faction they'd poke the lion instead.

How many times last night did AD load all their troops on ash and then hold up in there-doing absofrickenlutely nothing to get their scroll from ep? Many of us have just attributed this to what has been admitted here on the forums: many ad rolled ep toons and therefore won't fight their buddies under any circumstance. We have learned to accept this dynamic and compensate for it but it sure goes a long mile to keeping ep at the top with a point advantage while they hold ad's scrolls for day's on end. Someone said to me last night AD are like beaten wives with Stockholm syndrome.

EskimoBrother · April 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

These people blaming other people from other countries for playing the game and achieving objectives just makes me laff..and makes me a little embarrassed.. Go Straya!

What makes me laugh even more is when I see DC players saying stuff like "EP Pvers think they are good night capping Azura's Star. Too bad I'm going back to Chillrend".

Dude, DC has been night capping for 2weeks straight on Chillrend and I'm not complaining about it. I won't leave either to join all the EP winning campaigns out there. I would rather be out numbered on Chillrend than play where it is easy.

At least I learn alot by playing against more numbers and good AD guilds here.

agreed. its much funner fighting outnumbered. We spent a few days in chill and it was horrible as DC.

Jauriel · April 2015

EskimoBrother wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

These people blaming other people from other countries for playing the game and achieving objectives just makes me laff..and makes me a little embarrassed.. Go Straya!

What makes me laugh even more is when I see DC players saying stuff like "EP Pvers think they are good night capping Azura's Star. Too bad I'm going back to Chillrend".

Dude, DC has been night capping for 2weeks straight on Chillrend and I'm not complaining about it. I won't leave either to join all the EP winning campaigns out there. I would rather be out numbered on Chillrend than play where it is easy.

At least I learn alot by playing against more numbers and good AD guilds here.

agreed. its much funner fighting outnumbered. We spent a few days in chill and it was horrible as DC.

Glad you decided not to stay in Chill. I'd rather have you by my side.

sirston · April 2015

Jauriel wrote: »

sirston wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

I don't want Azura's to turn into yet another buff server. There's just never any semblance of balance. Its always an extreme one way or another. AD had less people than I have fingers on a hand defending their keeps last night, and whatever resistance DC had in the early early morning frittered away thanks to the surprise rubberbanding and F-U login errors. Some of the resident EP guilds need to consider moving elsewhere, and several AD/DC guilds need to either get themselves back in the game or rally more people. The score was fairly even steven the first couple of days but now EP's gaining a lead that isn't going to go away without resistance. TB is poplocked before primetime. AS is just about poplocked. Chill is the only camp besides BWB that's poplocked across the board. Unless things change right away we'll be looking at a repeat of the buff server cycle.

just to let you know a total of 3 EP major guilds Pride/SOTP/Shadow guild? moved from Thornblade to Azuras to get out of 200 person queues to a totally owned DC server. after we have been in Azura's for about a month now it seems all the DC jumped ship and left for chillrend, besides maybe the kids from the east coast that play from 5pm to 9pmEST the server dies for a period of time. so to be honest if you want 3 guilds to move to chillrend. We probably won't. Also DC needs to rally under one banner instead of being one side elites and the other Pug Mc-Pugs I know this because Ive seen your Zone chat. And to be clear a lot of EP guilds and guild member's Hate it when people say "Maybe you should re-roll!" because it splits your guilds opinions and cause's problems from with in. So to understand the problem on your side, you have to look at the other sides point of view. So to say you guys are under populated is a overstatement since im pretty such pop locks on all faction sides are the same number.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150033/zos-will-you-address-population-caps

I really can't believe what I am reading. You guys are now denying there is a pop imbalance?! Is there no end to the fantasies you will create in your effort to defend your unfair advantage "wins"? DC did unite under one banner and it was on TB. And we all know how that ended.

They tried so hard to unseat EP and were within a hairbreadth of it, only AD derped up hard mode and decided instead of pushing the reigning emp faction they'd poke the lion instead.

How many times last night did AD load all their troops on ash and then hold up in there-doing absofrickenlutely nothing to get their scroll from ep? Many of us have just attributed this to what has been admitted here on the forums: many ad rolled ep toons and therefore won't fight their buddies under any circumstance. We have learned to accept this dynamic and compensate for it but it sure goes a long mile to keeping ep at the top with a point advantage while they hold ad's scrolls for day's on end. Someone said to me last night AD are like beaten wives with Stockholm syndrome.

hmmmmmm..........
Two things, One Good to see you un-banned always a shame to see people banned because zenimax gets zenimad.

Now on the the next thing that I will have to say some words where you will get all hisy fisy about.

For the Post you linked, I will remind you that was for thornblade in February or before...That said it does not currently have the effect of this statement,That I said "So to say you guys are under populated is a overstatement since im pretty such pop locks on all faction sides are the same number." Is true I don't know if DC players have a lack of understanding of game concept but when a game has a lock out feature for one side its has a lock out feature for all sides. take another game for example Like battlefield each team US vs RUS both can have a max of 20 players on each side. Sure more people may want to play RUS or play US but they can't due to being Caped on numbers of allowed players. Do Must go on?....and for the AD toons liking EP? that was one guild that spilt in to two after a disagreement and im sure they would bash heads any day of the week. Now I don't know what campagin you play on @Jauriel but understand that the guild that had AD toons is not on Azura's.

Sirston

Ifthir_ESO · April 2015

it would be great if another ad or dc guild was on between 2am-4pm est

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · April 2015

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

it would be great if another ad or dc guild was on between 2am-4pm est

I thought there was. What happened to MBF and Tryton's guild?

Also what the *** ***? Except for DC's 2 gate keeps the entire *** map is red with fighting going down at AD's southeast base. Don't tell me there's a large combat icon just for a couple people getting the skyshard. *** are gate camping pure and simple because "oh durp AP heh heh". Disgusting. This is exactly the same *** that happened on Haderus and Volendrung. No sense of restraint whatsoever. If people feel they need to escape queues and lag there's Chillrend and current Haderus wide the *** open.

Jauriel · April 2015

Tiberius is there as well as MBF but we all seem to be same time zone.

Ifthir_ESO · April 2015

I see MBF a lot during primetime to late evening EST. Meaning we need more during the time they are gone.

CN_Daniel · April 2015

Here we go again, lets see if we cant paint this map a little blue...

sirston · April 2015

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

it would be great if another ad or dc guild was on between 2am-4pm est

I thought there was. What happened to MBF and Tryton's guild?

Also what the Sniping snip? Except for DC's 2 gate keeps the entire sniping map is red with fighting going down at AD's southeast base. Don't tell me there's a large combat icon just for a couple people getting the skyshard. sinps are gate camping pure and simple because "oh durp AP heh heh". Disgusting. This is exactly the same bullsnip that happened on Haderus and Volendrung. No sense of restraint whatsoever. If people feel they need to escape queues and lag there's Chillrend and current Haderus wide the snip open.

you don't understand when large guilds move from campaign to campaign everyone else follows because the large guilds usually do all the work. not our fault we wanted a challenged and had people do a full retreat from other campaigns to come "back us up"

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · April 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Here we go again, lets see if we cant paint this map a little blue...

Add happy little clouds. And some trees. Happy little bushes...

Huckdabuck · April 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Here we go again, lets see if we cant paint this map a little blue...

Please do.......EP is bored it appears!

Honfold · April 2015

Lol at Azuras Star right now. EP 3bars of pop vs DC 1 bar and they are pushing gate keeps when DC has no scrolls. Stay classy.

Jauriel · April 2015

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Here we go again, lets see if we cant paint this map a little blue...

I will be on shortly. I lost my voice

but I do have something to run by you.

Jauriel · April 2015

Huckdabuck wrote: »

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Here we go again, lets see if we cant paint this map a little blue...

Please do.......EP is bored it appears!

Delves? Dolmens? Has to be something other than turning AS into another TB.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · April 2015

sirston wrote: »

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

Ifthir_ESO wrote: »

it would be great if another ad or dc guild was on between 2am-4pm est

I thought there was. What happened to MBF and Tryton's guild?

Also what the Sniping snip? Except for DC's 2 gate keeps the entire sniping map is red with fighting going down at AD's southeast base. Don't tell me there's a large combat icon just for a couple people getting the skyshard. sinps are gate camping pure and simple because "oh durp AP heh heh". Disgusting. This is exactly the same bullsnip that happened on Haderus and Volendrung. No sense of restraint whatsoever. If people feel they need to escape queues and lag there's Chillrend and current Haderus wide the snip open.

you don't understand when large guilds move from campaign to campaign everyone else follows because the large guilds usually do all the work. not our fault we wanted a challenged and had people do a full retreat from other campaigns to come "back us up"

I almost feel like they should replace bleeps with cute little mudcrab icons.

Pugs really should be alot more confident in themselves. In the middle period of last cycle I remember it'd be Wilkill and a handful of vets and mostly pugs trying to hold the fort at Arrius or the surrounding resources. Alot of good groups sprung up that managed to achieve reasonable successes and recapture territory. There are just no words for what's going on currently. 3 bars and it isn't even 2pm in NA prime time? Does EP really need to push enemy gate keeps when we already have the scrolls unless everyone has the castle capture quest?

It's situations like this I do wish there were 'debuffs' for holding alot of territory. Something like -regen and -AP gained from kills. Traditionally in military campaigns the dominant aggressor gets quickly fatigued from overextending. But with the current system there's just nothing to punish this sort of activity.

Domander · April 2015

Jauriel wrote: »

Domander wrote: »

You DC realize that AS is home to many EP role players right?

No I'm not kidding, unless they have recently moved. The point is that the pop bar doesn't always reflect players concerned with the map.

They paid for the game same as us though

I remember zoning in one day when the map was all yellow and I saw 3 bars EP. I was wondering what was going on. 50 EP standing around the transitus with the RP text going.

You must have missed where several large ep guilds admitted to changing their home to AS and promised to wipe DC off the map because we all abandoned TB. You must have missed where they did this same thing to us on TB. You also must have missed where Wheeler admitted ep outnumbers DC 4 to 1.

No.
Well deserved, though not true.
Probably wouldn't of been wiped off the map on TB if you didn't abandon it.
Yeah, you must really feel out numbered when you're zerging that last Emp keep I bet, with enough players that the server stops responding and the flag flips with the present defenders all still alive.

Domander · April 2015

I would like to say that some late night DC and AD would be good. An example, last night we were having some fun fights and then it's like most of the DC just left. We took a couple keeps then got bored.Pvdoor isn't fun.

Also... This thread seems like it should be in the campaign section.

WarrioroftheWind_ESO · April 2015

What the *** is EP doing with Alma Ruma....seriously? Do they deserve that? it's not enough we keep poplocking the server hours before primetime, we have to take the scroll and go NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH. What is EP's average age, 4? *** sake. Even *I'M* appalled by this *** and I'm all for combat. AD are going full on potato for throwing themselves into that mess, and EP is behaving even worse for continueing with this. Bad bad sportsmanship all around.

LonePirate · April 2015

I heard the EP who took the DC scroll from Drake and ran it to the front door of Alessia is a former DC player. I personally cannot confirm that, though. Before he made it to Alessia, he allegedly set up a double cross with DC as he ran it directly to the wrecked ship by Alessia bridge where several DC were waiting (and where DC later dropped a camp). Needless to say, DC got wiped as EP farmed the DC that showed up, not to mention the dozens of AD that poured out of nearby Alessia. He even ran up to the front door of Alessia several times before someone finally got him. The scroll soon after reset back to Drake because AD couldn't touch it and EP could not get close enough to it.

Honfold · April 2015

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

What the *** is EP doing with Alma Ruma....seriously? Do they deserve that? it's not enough we keep poplocking the server hours before primetime, we have to take the scroll and go NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH. What is EP's average age, 4? *** sake. Even *I'M* appalled by this *** and I'm all for combat. AD are going full on potato for throwing themselves into that mess, and EP is behaving even worse for continueing with this. Bad bad sportsmanship all around.

Not really surprising considering in the early afternoon the 3 bars of EP pop were actively re-capping whatever the 1 bar of DC pop was able to cap. Which was, of course, Rayles and Warden. Oh, and DC didn't have any scrolls.

PeggymoeXD · April 2015

Nightcapping is a thing. I'm not going to log off because I assume the other factions log off. Stop posting threads about people playing the game when you decide to go to bed. The devs arent going to put a curfew on the servers because you're upset that you actually have something to take back during the day.

Jauriel · April 2015

WarrioroftheWind_ESO wrote: »

What the *** is EP doing with Alma Ruma....seriously? Do they deserve that? it's not enough we keep poplocking the server hours before primetime, we have to take the scroll and go NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH NYAH. What is EP's average age, 4? *** sake. Even *I'M* appalled by this *** and I'm all for combat. AD are going full on potato for throwing themselves into that mess, and EP is behaving even worse for continueing with this. Bad bad sportsmanship all around.

Any coincidence this has all gotten worse since b2p?