Loyalty rewards must continue

  • Bladorthin
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    Arundo wrote: »

    Yes, you did not stay loyal to the game. Sounds harsh but thats what loyalty programs do.

    There was never any mention until a month before that the loyalty program would end/take account the exact amount of time for rewards. Some people have obligations to their family, the military, financial concerns, etc. I think the way the program was terminated was unfair, and I am voicing my opinion on it.

  • Gidorick
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    Bladorthin wrote: »
    Arundo wrote: »

    Yes, you did not stay loyal to the game. Sounds harsh but thats what loyalty programs do.

    There was never any mention until a month before that the loyalty program would end/take account the exact amount of time for rewards. Some people have obligations to their family, the military, financial concerns, etc. I think the way the program was terminated was unfair, and I am voicing my opinion on it.

    How long should they give people consideration for if a month isn't long enough? Two months? Why not six months? A year? Everyone has "reasons" why they can't do one thing or another. It's not ZOS' responsibility to make exceptions for every single person in every single circumstance.
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  • Tapio75
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    Cant say anything but i agree...

    But not just pets.. Mounts, titles, great emotes etc.. I think AION has very good loyalty rewards.. Or at least had before free to play, i dont know what it is now since i stopped playing when f2p come and some of my account wide items shafted to one time use only.
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  • Bladorthin
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    How long should they give people consideration for if a month isn't long enough? Two months? Why not six months? A year? Everyone has "reasons" why they can't do one thing or another. It's not ZOS' responsibility to make exceptions for every single person in every single circumstance.

    They knew that they were going Buy to Play for quite a while, and Ii believe if they had announced then that the loyalty rewards would be going away with the release of Tamriel Unlimited, that would of been great. After all, they did announce that subscriptions would continue, so a reasonable assumption would be that the loyalty program would continue as well. Heck, if they had notified everyone in January I would of been happy. But they decided to wait until a month before the program was to end, and only reported it on the website, not in an email to subscribers. I did not find out until it was too late, and I am upset about it, because I think I had a pretty good track record of supporting the game.

    ZOS has a terrible track record of communicating with their customers. Just this week, Console owners found out that there would be no keyboard support for consoles, despite two reassurances (one as early as last Thursday) and a support link stating they would. While this might sound like a non issue for you, I have a friend that already preordered the game that cannot cancel it from the Playstation Store (you apparently pay full price less 10% to buy a game on preorder, but can't cancel it), who is deaf, and will have no way to communicate in the game who based his opinion to buy the game on the support article stating he would be able to use a keyboard to communicate.

  • Gidorick
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    Bladorthin wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    How long should they give people consideration for if a month isn't long enough? Two months? Why not six months? A year? Everyone has "reasons" why they can't do one thing or another. It's not ZOS' responsibility to make exceptions for every single person in every single circumstance.

    They knew that they were going Buy to Play for quite a while, and Ii believe if they had announced then that the loyalty rewards would be going away with the release of Tamriel Unlimited, that would of been great. After all, they did announce that subscriptions would continue, so a reasonable assumption would be that the loyalty program would continue as well. Heck, if they had notified everyone in January I would of been happy. But they decided to wait until a month before the program was to end, and only reported it on the website, not in an email to subscribers. I did not find out until it was too late, and I am upset about it, because I think I had a pretty good track record of supporting the game.

    ZOS has a terrible track record of communicating with their customers. Just this week, Console owners found out that there would be no keyboard support for consoles, despite two reassurances (one as early as last Thursday) and a support link stating they would. While this might sound like a non issue for you, I have a friend that already preordered the game that cannot cancel it from the Playstation Store (you apparently pay full price less 10% to buy a game on preorder, but can't cancel it), who is deaf, and will have no way to communicate in the game who based his opinion to buy the game on the support article stating he would be able to use a keyboard to communicate.

    You should have been more proactive. Many of us were and we got the info and acted in plenty of time. And if you were loyal the entire time you wouldn't have this issue.

    Oh and the Senche mount wasn't explicitly part of the loyalty reward program. It was originally meant for those who subscribed from day one and never missed a beat. Whining from quazi loyal customers lead ZOS to change the qualifications so ANYONE could qualify. You weren't attentive, not ZOS' problem... buy the leopard.

    The preorder issue is Sony's not ZOS'. Besides, I wouldn't expect there to be NO way for your friend to communicate in game.
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  • Talrenos
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    plenilune wrote: »
    It is ridiculous that they discontinued this, as people who had accumulated payed time in anticipation of the final rewards will never get them. It is essentially a big "*** you" to all but the most loyal (read: insane) fans who payed every month since day 1.
    I suggest that they become available through Plus membership or purchasable store items.

    Why are you surprised by this? it has become accepted that ZOS is only interested in making money, even if it means producing a failing product.
  • Talrenos
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    Raash wrote: »
    I think a simple "thank you" is good enough. You got what you paid for already.

    No, actually no one has yet gotten what they payed for. We paid for a game that is relatively bug free. (did not get that) We paid for a game that has decent concepts and systems in place. (Did not get that either, they have already had to scrap several systems and re-write them) We payed for a product that is stable and does not crash or lag out. (Several crashes a day and crushing lag in PvP)

    Do you think ZOS should thank us for being stupid consumers and blindly giving them money for this failed product? Actually, yeah, they SHOULD thank us for that...
  • Bladorthin
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    Gidorick wrote: »

    You should have been more proactive. Many of us were and we got the info and acted in plenty of time. And if you were loyal the entire time you wouldn't have this issue.

    Grid, you are just talking over my issues and are coming across as "I got it you didn't too bad". You also seem to be somewhat upset that they made any exceptions at all. I hope you enjoy the game for as long as it is active, because if ZOS keeps making decisions like this, they are are going upset more and more of their player base, which is going to cause them to stop supporting it.
  • Wolfshead
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    plenilune wrote: »
    It is ridiculous that they discontinued this, as people who had accumulated payed time in anticipation of the final rewards will never get them. It is essentially a big "*** you" to all but the most loyal (read: insane) fans who payed every month since day 1.
    I suggest that they become available through Plus membership or purchasable store items.

    So wait now you have not been play for whole year and you demand you should get last loyalty rewards even though you was not active play the game and you want to have loyalty tiger mount reward be avaliable in store do even know what a loyalty rewards mean that you are active for long period of time serious stop blame everyone else for you was not active for whole last year.
    Bladorthin wrote: »
    I missed the Senche Tiger because of a few days. I had the audacity to let my subscription lapse for a few weeks in the summer because of training. I figured I could wait a few weeks because I would not be able to physically log into the game during the time.

    I contacted ZOS because I was sure they would make an exception, after all I had after bought the Imperial Edition, 270 days of paid game time (not including the 30 free days). Hell I even bought the $100 ESO Book Collection (which is very nice BTW). I never received a response to my first ticket, and after 3 weeks I submitted another. After a week, I receive a polite, but firm response that said they would not add the item under any circumstances as the loyalty program had ended, and they were not capable of adding it to my account. The current policy would not be changed or bended for anyone (although it was implied that maybe the policy could change in the future).

    My response was to please see that my complaint was forwarded to the the person who made the policy, and the notice that I would neither resubscribe, or spend another dime on ESO until the policy was changed to offer some flexibility, or to reinstate the loyalty program. I was told they would forward my email to the person who was in charge, but have not heard anything back (and I doubt I will).

    What bothers me the most is that had they told us earlier about the required 300 days, I would not have let me subscription lapse for the three weeks.

    If anyone else feels the same way as I do, I implore you to open a ticket and express your problems with the end of the loyalty system. You won't get your mount, but you may just help convince them how big of a mistake they have made. To treat their most loyal customers (well–near most, the most did get the mount I suppose) this way is simply unacceptable. And to be honest, the policy makes no sense, by continuing the loyalty program, and adding extra bennies accounts, they encourage players to keep their subscriptions active. Many games use this model successfully.

    Well you have answer your own question 300 days is 300 days no matter what is i think it is not more right if you did not resub it is your own prolbem not ZoS and 30 day free cant be count for ZoS gave you 30 free day to play which mean you did not pay for them.
    Edited by Wolfshead on April 19, 2015 12:50PM
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  • nerevarine1138
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    Talrenos wrote: »
    Raash wrote: »
    I think a simple "thank you" is good enough. You got what you paid for already.

    No, actually no one has yet gotten what they payed for. We paid for a game that is relatively bug free. (did not get that) We paid for a game that has decent concepts and systems in place. (Did not get that either, they have already had to scrap several systems and re-write them) We payed for a product that is stable and does not crash or lag out. (Several crashes a day and crushing lag in PvP)

    Do you think ZOS should thank us for being stupid consumers and blindly giving them money for this failed product? Actually, yeah, they SHOULD thank us for that...

    If you were paying for a game that you hated that much, it sounds like a personal problem.
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  • Ley
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    It would be nice to get rewards for reaching certain subscription milestones, (120 days, 240, 360, 720, ect..) but completely unnecessary. Who knows, they may intend to give more future loyalty rewards.
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  • Gidorick
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    Bladorthin wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »

    You should have been more proactive. Many of us were and we got the info and acted in plenty of time. And if you were loyal the entire time you wouldn't have this issue.

    Grid, you are just talking over my issues and are coming across as "I got it you didn't too bad". You also seem to be somewhat upset that they made any exceptions at all. I hope you enjoy the game for as long as it is active, because if ZOS keeps making decisions like this, they are are going upset more and more of their player base, which is going to cause them to stop supporting it.

    You're reading me pretty well but my intention isn't to come across as "I got it you didn't too bad" but to come across as "You didn't get it, too bad".

    The rules were set, they were explained, they were changed to appease customers who didn't quite qualify, to ask for additional clemency is unreasonable.

    You think it's unfair to you that you can't get the mount now, how would it be fair to all of us that made sure we had the 300 days if they were to allow you to obtain the mount now?

    Add on to this the fact that they are offering other Senche Mounts in the Crown Store and your complaints seem quite baseless.

    I actually also wish the Loyalty Rewards were going to continue. To just outright dismiss the loyalty program sends a message to us subscribers that we are no longer needed or desired. It makes it appear as if ZOS couldn't care less weather or not we stay subscribed, but that's just how I perceive it.

    Could ZOS have given us more notice? Sure. Could have ZOS have continued the Loyalty Program? Sure. Could ZOS have made the Subscription more appealing by offering Subscribers more? Sure... but they didn't do those things and they show no desire to change how they are running the sub program.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
    Click HERE to discuss.

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  • Bouvin
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    plenilune wrote: »
    PKMN12 wrote: »
    You payed to play-test a game that nearly every MMO player was saying was going to go F2P/B2P in a year, not our fault you did not listen........

    Nice try. Actually I didn't pay anything, the first month was free. I'm speaking on behalf of others who payed for it, but won't ever get to see the later rewards.

    Ya you will. They'll all be available in the Crown Store.
  • maryriv
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    plenilune wrote: »
    It is ridiculous that they discontinued this, as people who had accumulated payed time in anticipation of the final rewards will never get them. It is essentially a big "*** you" to all but the most loyal (read: insane) fans who payed every month since day 1.
    I suggest that they become available through Plus membership or purchasable store items.

    Those loyal insane fans got the same tiger that is now reskined and for sale you didn't miss anything.
  • StaticWax
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    PKMN12 wrote: »
    You payed to play-test a game that nearly every MMO player was saying was going to go F2P/B2P in a year, not our fault you did not listen........

    They said the same of FFXIV ARR. It's always fashionable to predict failure.
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