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Justice System...why!?
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EisregenX90✭✭The death in port ia realy not fair. For the locked in a place like a Bank i recommend invis pots
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✭Tarukmockto wrote: »The Justice system is okay with me, however there are a few issues with it. 50 Fence interactions a day just isn't enough. Especially when I'm laundering mats I've pilfered. It should count each stack as an item, not every piece in the stack as individual items.
@Tarukmockto , once you have higher legerdemain rank, you can put points into Trafficker that will put your transactions to 140/day (that's at maximum level on trafficker 4/4) on each Launder and FencingEdited by Qyrk on April 18, 2015 10:51AM0 -
Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭EisregenX90 wrote: »The death in port ia realy not fair. For the locked in a place like a Bank i recommend invis pots
acutally... ima NB guards see through invis once caught T_T though maybe potions work all I know is cloak doesnt work (it does work if you arent in combat, but if your are invis before hand you wont be seen
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✭✭✭✭✭I think we have some confusion this is not happening at major cities this is happening even in some small towns (Im pretty sure I never said major cities,. Other than the bank issue)... ZOS already told me it was an issue so I know it will be getting fixed. How am I suppose to know certain locations are bad luck of the draw? And it isnt like i teleported i arrive and then die, I die during the load screen which mainly isnt fair (not because of my rig the load is quick its just close the pathway of guard at certain times). You act like what you said is part of the system ZOS never stated that was a thing and this issue only happens in few town greenshade and akir desert (however you spell it) now lets say your correct explain why zos returned to me 80k I lost due to these issues. On a final note you dont seem to want to debate just state im wrong period which is a bit childish.
(Its not every wayshrine nor a certain wayshrine 24/7 just when a guard is near it due to the path it takes, also I port to stormhaven/craglorn/deshaan and many more just fine inside the city and never die,)
I'm not sure that you are following the purpose of the justice system.
I'm also sure ZOS may address any lag occurring but while your computer loads, this doesn't mean that you're character isn't in the world. Loading is your computer, syncing with the game server, loading graphics and cou processes. It doesn't sound like anything is wrong
You cannot and should not port with a bounty ANYWHERE
The results of your choices are the correct game response. If people could have bounties and be protected during porting, the game system would fail. It's not a single player game, the world continues on whether your computer is loading or not.
My suggestion is to walk, run, horse and never port. Also understand that if you go into a door and a guard or another ah grief NPC is after you, they don't stop because you're loading
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nerevarine1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm with you on the being killed due to a loading screen issue. That seems like something that should be corrected (if it's on ZO's end, which it most likely isn't, but nevertheless...).
However, you get caught stealing in a bank, I'm 100% in favor of the doors being locked. Why should you be able to rob a place blind in the most idiotic fashion and just sidle out the door, free of all consequence?
As others have said, you appear to need lessons in thieving. Stop getting seen, and this will stop being a problem.----
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Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I think we have some confusion this is not happening at major cities this is happening even in some small towns (Im pretty sure I never said major cities,. Other than the bank issue)... ZOS already told me it was an issue so I know it will be getting fixed. How am I suppose to know certain locations are bad luck of the draw? And it isnt like i teleported i arrive and then die, I die during the load screen which mainly isnt fair (not because of my rig the load is quick its just close the pathway of guard at certain times). You act like what you said is part of the system ZOS never stated that was a thing and this issue only happens in few town greenshade and akir desert (however you spell it) now lets say your correct explain why zos returned to me 80k I lost due to these issues. On a final note you dont seem to want to debate just state im wrong period which is a bit childish.
(Its not every wayshrine nor a certain wayshrine 24/7 just when a guard is near it due to the path it takes, also I port to stormhaven/craglorn/deshaan and many more just fine inside the city and never die,)
I'm not sure that you are following the purpose of the justice system.
I'm also sure ZOS may address any lag occurring but while your computer loads, this doesn't mean that you're character isn't in the world. Loading is your computer, syncing with the game server, loading graphics and cou processes. It doesn't sound like anything is wrong
You cannot and should not port with a bounty ANYWHERE
The results of your choices are the correct game response. If people could have bounties and be protected during porting, the game system would fail. It's not a single player game, the world continues on whether your computer is loading or not.
My suggestion is to walk, run, horse and never port. Also understand that if you go into a door and a guard or another ah grief NPC is after you, they don't stop because you're loading
Everyone gets a loading screen wayshrine to wayshrine, are you telling me 10secs are my rigs fault? I mean this hasnt happened more than twicr its just rare
I agree with you, but this happens in mages guilds and fighters guild, i just think in that case it should be turned down.nerevarine1138 wrote: »I'm with you on the being killed due to a loading screen issue. That seems like something that should be corrected (if it's on ZO's end, which it most likely isn't, but nevertheless...).
However, you get caught stealing in a bank, I'm 100% in favor of the doors being locked. Why should you be able to rob a place blind in the most idiotic fashion and just sidle out the door, free of all consequence?
As others have said, you appear to need lessons in thieving. Stop getting seen, and this will stop being a problem.
Also I run a NB perma invis build its amazing lmao thats why i rage when I die to this BS but I do die, The bank issue mainly happened in the rift which is sooo small xD same places it cant be avoided,
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Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I think we have some confusion this is not happening at major cities this is happening even in some small towns (Im pretty sure I never said major cities,. Other than the bank issue)... ZOS already told me it was an issue so I know it will be getting fixed. How am I suppose to know certain locations are bad luck of the draw? And it isnt like i teleported i arrive and then die, I die during the load screen which mainly isnt fair (not because of my rig the load is quick its just close the pathway of guard at certain times). You act like what you said is part of the system ZOS never stated that was a thing and this issue only happens in few town greenshade and akir desert (however you spell it) now lets say your correct explain why zos returned to me 80k I lost due to these issues. On a final note you dont seem to want to debate just state im wrong period which is a bit childish.
(Its not every wayshrine nor a certain wayshrine 24/7 just when a guard is near it due to the path it takes, also I port to stormhaven/craglorn/deshaan and many more just fine inside the city and never die,)
I'm not sure that you are following the purpose of the justice system.
I'm also sure ZOS may address any lag occurring but while your computer loads, this doesn't mean that you're character isn't in the world. Loading is your computer, syncing with the game server, loading graphics and cou processes. It doesn't sound like anything is wrong
You cannot and should not port with a bounty ANYWHERE
The results of your choices are the correct game response. If people could have bounties and be protected during porting, the game system would fail. It's not a single player game, the world continues on whether your computer is loading or not.
My suggestion is to walk, run, horse and never port. Also understand that if you go into a door and a guard or another ah grief NPC is after you, they don't stop because you're loading
Is that mechanic suggestion? Cuz im allowed to port to about 99% of places, justice system currently ALLOWS porting everywhere this happens in only a few spots... Serious question do you know how it works you seem extremely misimformed cuz being killed at wayshrines is NOT a thing, I mean i would understand if it was and would accept that but your 100% wrong thats not a thing lol0 -
Boricua,you need to make better decisions.Traveling to a city wayshrine with such a high bounty its a no no.Travel the closest non city wayshrine and sneak you way to the city.And about random screens? They are predictable,I play in a very crappy PC and I know when a random loading is about to appear.When you start seeing mountains,building ect ect with very low resolution textures,if you keep going you are going to get a random loading screen.So when you see those low resolution textures,stop and let the texture load before continuing.1 -
magic_is_might✭✭✭joshisanonymous wrote: »joshisanonymous wrote: »Maybeee.. don't get caught stealing in the first place?
I was not caught. I was on a road *sneaking* I have a bounty natually I will be in sneak. Now a random loading screen pops up (and that road is the pathway route a guard goes by) and when its finished im dead... I was never caught, literally random loading screen and I get killed
You misunderstood me. I mean you had a bounty in the first place. Try not to let that happen.
I had a 1mil bounty prior to taking a break im at 800k ish now.
I just embraced the bounty and will just deal with it, but are these the consequences of having a bounty? Losing my gold for me trying to go speed run thieving is one thing... losing my gold due to loading screen is another.
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joshisanonymous wrote: »joshisanonymous wrote: »Maybeee.. don't get caught stealing in the first place?
I was not caught. I was on a road *sneaking* I have a bounty natually I will be in sneak. Now a random loading screen pops up (and that road is the pathway route a guard goes by) and when its finished im dead... I was never caught, literally random loading screen and I get killed
You misunderstood me. I mean you had a bounty in the first place. Try not to let that happen.
I had a 1mil bounty prior to taking a break im at 800k ish now.
I just embraced the bounty and will just deal with it, but are these the consequences of having a bounty? Losing my gold for me trying to go speed run thieving is one thing... losing my gold due to loading screen is another.
Solution = Don't wayshrine to towns.
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✭✭✭✭✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I think we have some confusion this is not happening at major cities this is happening even in some small towns (Im pretty sure I never said major cities,. Other than the bank issue)... ZOS already told me it was an issue so I know it will be getting fixed. How am I suppose to know certain locations are bad luck of the draw? And it isnt like i teleported i arrive and then die, I die during the load screen which mainly isnt fair (not because of my rig the load is quick its just close the pathway of guard at certain times). You act like what you said is part of the system ZOS never stated that was a thing and this issue only happens in few town greenshade and akir desert (however you spell it) now lets say your correct explain why zos returned to me 80k I lost due to these issues. On a final note you dont seem to want to debate just state im wrong period which is a bit childish.
(Its not every wayshrine nor a certain wayshrine 24/7 just when a guard is near it due to the path it takes, also I port to stormhaven/craglorn/deshaan and many more just fine inside the city and never die,)
I'm not sure that you are following the purpose of the justice system.
I'm also sure ZOS may address any lag occurring but while your computer loads, this doesn't mean that you're character isn't in the world. Loading is your computer, syncing with the game server, loading graphics and cou processes. It doesn't sound like anything is wrong
You cannot and should not port with a bounty ANYWHERE
The results of your choices are the correct game response. If people could have bounties and be protected during porting, the game system would fail. It's not a single player game, the world continues on whether your computer is loading or not.
My suggestion is to walk, run, horse and never port. Also understand that if you go into a door and a guard or another ah grief NPC is after you, they don't stop because you're loading
Is that mechanic suggestion? Cuz im allowed to port to about 99% of places, justice system currently ALLOWS porting everywhere this happens in only a few spots... Serious question do you know how it works you seem extremely misimformed cuz being killed at wayshrines is NOT a thing, I mean i would understand if it was and would accept that but your 100% wrong thats not a thing lol
Hear me out....the problem or concerns as you share them with us stem from poor decisions by a player rather than a design flaw. I understand how all this works and don't question that you understand how it works.
I do question that you seem to feel that certain immunities should apply that are by design consequences of the system and any players "optional" choices.
Not trying to be offensive but the problem seems to be the choices the you make and a lack of logic around next actions and those consequences.
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Naivefanboi✭✭✭✭EisregenX90 wrote: »The death in port ia realy not fair. For the locked in a place like a Bank i recommend invis pots
I suggest zos fix their buggy broken nonsense, oh wait we need more mounts/pets0 -
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✭✭✭joshisanonymous wrote: »joshisanonymous wrote: »Maybeee.. don't get caught stealing in the first place?
I was not caught. I was on a road *sneaking* I have a bounty natually I will be in sneak. Now a random loading screen pops up (and that road is the pathway route a guard goes by) and when its finished im dead... I was never caught, literally random loading screen and I get killed
You misunderstood me. I mean you had a bounty in the first place. Try not to let that happen.
I had a 1mil bounty prior to taking a break im at 800k ish now.
I just embraced the bounty and will just deal with it, but are these the consequences of having a bounty? Losing my gold for me trying to go speed run thieving is one thing... losing my gold due to loading screen is another.
1 million gold bounty??????(now 800K according to you) what are you doing?????
/sigh
alright, i understand you dealt with a bug/loading screen issue, that is not what im arguing.
you need to be a better thief friend. idc what your friends/guildies may say, having a gigantic bounty is bad unless you were just going for an achievement.
keep track of your bounty, and have it payed off when you are done thieving for the day.
if you would have done that this would have never happened.
i'm not denying the existence of bugs. I have had multiple instances where i was spotted while behind the NPC, not colliding with them. this especially happens with guards(which is why I have given up on trying to go after the guards. lol. sometimes its just me crouch walking to their peripheral vision, but other times i was just spotted for absolutely no reason)Edited by Cody on April 18, 2015 10:11PM0 -
Xandryah✭✭✭joshisanonymous wrote: »joshisanonymous wrote: »Maybeee.. don't get caught stealing in the first place?
I was not caught. I was on a road *sneaking* I have a bounty natually I will be in sneak. Now a random loading screen pops up (and that road is the pathway route a guard goes by) and when its finished im dead... I was never caught, literally random loading screen and I get killed
You misunderstood me. I mean you had a bounty in the first place. Try not to let that happen.
I had a 1mil bounty prior to taking a break im at 800k ish now.
I just embraced the bounty and will just deal with it, but are these the consequences of having a bounty? Losing my gold for me trying to go speed run thieving is one thing... losing my gold due to loading screen is another.
if you have 1 Million bounty (!!!) then try to see fencing like cleaning your teeth... do it every day and regularly and you won't have problems..
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GaldorP✭✭✭✭✭If you had a bounty of 800k you must have murdered hundreds of NPCs or killed thousands of owned lifestock (probably takes several hours of murdering to get such a high bounty, it took me forever to get a bounty of 100k for the achievement already) so you probably knew what you were doing.
There is no guarantee that wayshrines will be safe from guards. Nothing in the game indicates there is, so you could have thought of the risk and teleported to a wayshrine that you knew was safe instead.
But I agree that dying during a loading screen should not happen. And when you get caught by a guard because your game crashes or suddenly goes into loading screen mode, that sucks. I've lost stolen items like that before, as well (when the game crashed in the middle of a town).0 -
Molsondry✭✭✭vladimilianoub17_ESO1 wrote: »Boricua,you need to make better decisions.Traveling to a city wayshrine with such a high bounty its a no no.Travel the closest non city wayshrine and sneak you way to the city.And about random screens? They are predictable,I play in a very crappy PC and I know when a random loading is about to appear.When you start seeing mountains,building ect ect with very low resolution textures,if you keep going you are going to get a random loading screen.So when you see those low resolution textures,stop and let the texture load before continuing.
I often experience long loading screen Even tho i have a 600$ i 7 cpu and a 400$ graph card with 16 gb ram.
Eso normally uses 13 to 17 % of my cpu and something like 1.4gb of ram.
Also I never experienced any decrease of view effect quality before getting into a long loading screen. Sometimes its not just long its bugs out and I have to reset Eso.
So it has nothing to do with your rig its either bad eso core game script or bad server routing script. Any its not our rig its Zenimax and eso script fault.
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Araxleon✭✭✭✭✭I flat out kill xD im not avoidingmg it... Bounty shouldnt give me loading screen deaths0
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Dixa✭✭✭✭it's hard to have any sympathy for the OP here.
1 million bounty. the sheer amount of shenanigans required to hit that mark is beyond sociopathic. you chose to do this, live with the consequences.
you don't ever have to visit a city. if you choose to play like this much of a jerk, buy a 2nd account. mail your stuff to it. make a bank char on your main and park it. on your 2nd account, return all of the mail. now your bank character can pick it up and bank it and you only paid the mail fee once. have your bank char buy repair kits.
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EisregenX90✭✭EisregenX90 wrote: »The death in port ia realy not fair. For the locked in a place like a Bank i recommend invis pots
acutally... ima NB guards see through invis once caught T_T though maybe potions work all I know is cloak doesnt work (it does work if you arent in combat, but if your are invis before hand you wont be seen )
I'm a NB too and i know cloac doesnt work, cause you are not out of battle in the short time. The invis pots have a larger duration were the guards reset and you can sneak outside a building.
I've done this several times the last few days to test it and it works 0 -
Robotmafia✭✭✭joshisanonymous wrote: »joshisanonymous wrote: »Maybeee.. don't get caught stealing in the first place?
I was not caught. I was on a road *sneaking* I have a bounty natually I will be in sneak. Now a random loading screen pops up (and that road is the pathway route a guard goes by) and when its finished im dead... I was never caught, literally random loading screen and I get killed
You misunderstood me. I mean you had a bounty in the first place. Try not to let that happen.
I had a 1mil bounty prior to taking a break im at 800k ish now.
I just embraced the bounty and will just deal with it, but are these the consequences of having a bounty? Losing my gold for me trying to go speed run thieving is one thing... losing my gold due to loading screen is another.
no offense :P but a 1mil bounty really makes u a pretty bad thief :PRobot Who Owes Money: Look into your hard drive and open your mercy file!
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