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What was the point of changing the ulti gain and animations??????

Juraigr
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seriously I still have NO IDEA as to why they did this did I miss something or....
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  • MissBizz
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    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.
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  • Juraigr
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again
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    LA DK Still OP :P

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    #200StandardOfMightFFS
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    #RevertUltiGain

    #FixMoltenWhip

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  • Huntler
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again

    Na it was PvPs fault too. Thank your casual catering really. People complained, ZOS catered to the casual community by making ultimate gain a standardized, expected rate that is the same for everybody.

    So everybody could be like:

    carebear-stare-o.gif
  • xMovingTarget
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again

    Actually, they did this more to balance out pvp. In the end, most changes are made coz of pvp whines. PvE gets scrapped more from pvp whining.

    I never heard complaints from any pve tank about their ult rate. I dont like the new system either as mainly pve player.
    Edited by xMovingTarget on April 16, 2015 6:06PM
  • Juraigr
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    Huntler wrote: »
    Juraigr wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again

    Na it was PvPs fault too. Thank your casual catering really. People complained, ZOS catered to the casual community by making ultimate gain a standardized, expected rate that is the same for everybody.

    So everybody could be like:

    carebear-stare-o.gif

    Don't get zos, neuter down the only place that is actually a challenge, if you can't play with the hardcore big boys oh well you have 2 options: seriously L2P or leave simple as
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  • Valnas
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    CARE BEAR STARE OP

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    I feel like they might of watched the feature film and designed Radiant Destruction in one go.
    Edited by Valnas on April 16, 2015 6:09PM
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  • Juraigr
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again

    Actually, they did this mre to balance out pvp. In the end, most changes are made coz of pvp whines. PvE gets scrapped more from pvp whining.

    :neutral: seriously
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    LA DK Still OP :P

    One of the Three Light Armor DK's

    #200StandardOfMightFFS
    #RevertAshCloud
    #RevertNewAnimations
    #RevertUltiGain

    #FixMoltenWhip

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  • xMovingTarget
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    Juraigr wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again

    Actually, they did this mre to balance out pvp. In the end, most changes are made coz of pvp whines. PvE gets scrapped more from pvp whining.

    :neutral: seriously

    Thank dem casuals..
  • Draxys
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    Huntler wrote: »
    Juraigr wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again
    casual catering

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    2013

    rip decibel
  • driosketch
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    PvP was already full of AoE ult farming builds. When they raised the AoE cap they needed a counterbalance so you didn't have endless batswarm or blink, blink, blink, ult drop. Of course I'm able to generate my ult pretty quickly now under the new system, so no idea if they succeeded in that. Possible it hurts the old AoE spammers more than my healer's build.
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  • Rook_Master
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    It was because of stupid things like BE and Talons generating ridiculous amounts of ultimate because of the CC.

    If you look around, DKs aren't dropping Standards and Batswarms every 5 seconds, so I'd say it is working as intended.
  • Artemiisia
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again

    lol, most changes in this game has been because of pvp'ers overused skills

    bat swam
    bolt escape
    Banner
    Negate

    just to name a few
  • Garion
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    It was because of stupid things like BE and Talons generating ridiculous amounts of ultimate because of the CC.

    If you look around, DKs aren't dropping Standards and Batswarms every 5 seconds, so I'd say it is working as intended.

    Then they should have looked at these particular skills as opposed to destroying ulti gain across the board. It was a stupid change aimed at catering the noobs.
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  • Etaniel
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    They changed ulti so that someone tanking 8 guys would get the same amount as that one random hiding behind a tree casting a light attack every 8 seconds. Seems like a totally fair system
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  • Ezareth
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    seriously I still have NO IDEA as to why they did this did I miss something or....

    They did it so that I never run out of ultimate. My ultimate generation is 2-3 times what it was on 1.5

    I think they also wanted to stop AoE damage and healing spam from being the best way to generate ult.
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  • Juraigr
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    It was because of stupid things like BE and Talons generating ridiculous amounts of ultimate because of the CC.

    If you look around, DKs aren't dropping Standards and Batswarms every 5 seconds, so I'd say it is working as intended.

    Because of the cc? Ok
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    LA DK Still OP :P

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    #200StandardOfMightFFS
    #RevertAshCloud
    #RevertNewAnimations
    #RevertUltiGain

    #FixMoltenWhip

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  • xMovingTarget
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    It was because of stupid things like BE and Talons generating ridiculous amounts of ultimate because of the CC.

    If you look around, DKs aren't dropping Standards and Batswarms every 5 seconds, so I'd say it is working as intended.

    Because of the cc? Ok

    Yes, havnt you heard jura? 1 cc generated instant 100 ultimate! Haha 0!
    Edited by xMovingTarget on April 16, 2015 8:41PM
  • Rune_Relic
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    It was so the game couldnt be exploited to the max by specific classes and builds.
    Its called balance I guess.
    Ellite players are usually far more interested in finding godmode hax than balance though.
    Then get all defensive and say things like casual and carebear because ZOS took their toys away.
    Anything that can be exploited will be exploited
  • pppontus
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    All we're really lacking now is a 500% increase to ult gain if you die 50 times in a row through sniping DKs with scales up. So the casuals can spam more meteors on scales.

    Seems about right. Right?
  • Juraigr
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    It was because of stupid things like BE and Talons generating ridiculous amounts of ultimate because of the CC.

    If you look around, DKs aren't dropping Standards and Batswarms every 5 seconds, so I'd say it is working as intended.

    Because of the cc? Ok

    Yes, havnt you heard jura? 1 cc generated instant 100 ultimate! Haha 0!

    i didnt get banner after 2 talons tho so....
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    LA DK Still OP :P

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    #200StandardOfMightFFS
    #RevertAshCloud
    #RevertNewAnimations
    #RevertUltiGain

    #FixMoltenWhip

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  • timidobserver
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    Because some classes had a significant advantage on getting their ultimate up over others. Some had ways to get ultimate up almost instantly. Now, most people get ultimate at a pretty similar rate.
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  • Juraigr
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    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    It was so the game couldnt be exploited to the max by specific classes and builds.
    Its called balance I guess.
    Ellite players are usually far more interested in finding godmode hax than balance though.
    Then get all defensive and say things like casual and carebear because ZOS took their toys away.

    Agreed that some builds cos do that but that was what the build was BUILT for, when it came to single target they struggled to do 200dps lol, from what im getting people don't like elite players is that the problem? if your not good enough to be called elite get better or do something else. If something is hard to figure out you dont complain till the cows come home you adapt to it, learn and become elite yourself. Thats how i see it anyway
    Because some classes had a significant advantage on getting their ultimate up over others. Some had ways to get ultimate up almost instantly. Now, most people get ultimate at a pretty similar rate.

    Which is boring and static and not what i liked about the game
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    LA DK Still OP :P

    One of the Three Light Armor DK's

    #200StandardOfMightFFS
    #RevertAshCloud
    #RevertNewAnimations
    #RevertUltiGain

    #FixMoltenWhip

    Grinding my way to August Palatine finally made it, still holding a torch for eso so now imma filthy casual
  • Draxys
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    Making everything "fair" is never actually "fair" to everyone. They should have kept a dynamic ultimate gain system and toned down gain from things like streak and impulse, instead of this boring crap that we have now.
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  • Nala_
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    They changed ulti so that someone tanking 8 guys would get the same amount as that one random hiding behind a tree casting a light attack every 8 seconds. Seems like a totally fair system

    this
  • phreatophile
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    MissBizz wrote: »
    They wanted gaining ultimate to be more even across everyone.. so the tank/healer could gain ultimate as quick as the DPS type thing.

    So pve *** us over....again

    LOL! As a PVE players who has been repeatedly effed to satisfy PvP QQers, this is hilarious.

    Not crazy about how they did it, but the pre 1.6 broken Ult generation had to be fixed. They only nerfed my characters a half a dozen times before fixing the real problem.
  • driosketch
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    It was so the game couldnt be exploited to the max by specific classes and builds.
    Its called balance I guess.
    Ellite players are usually far more interested in finding godmode hax than balance though.
    Then get all defensive and say things like casual and carebear because ZOS took their toys away.

    Agreed that some builds cos do that but that was what the build was BUILT for, when it came to single target they struggled to do 200dps lol, from what im getting people don't like elite players is that the problem? if your not good enough to be called elite get better or do something else. If something is hard to figure out you dont complain till the cows come home you adapt to it, learn and become elite yourself. Thats how i see it anyway
    Because some classes had a significant advantage on getting their ultimate up over others. Some had ways to get ultimate up almost instantly. Now, most people get ultimate at a pretty similar rate.

    Which is boring and static and not what i liked about the game
    Elite was probably the wrong term, and I bet it was used here ironically. Meta gamer is a more accurate term. And no, I don't think they are well liked. They tend to break balance leading to nerfs that hurt other PvP and PvE players alike. They're lack of sustainability in the non-vet campaign is one of the reasons Blackwater Blade is considered one of the best places to PvP currently in the game.
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  • Nala_
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    pvers ruin games.
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    Juraigr wrote: »
    seriously I still have NO IDEA as to why they did this did I miss something or....

    How do you like your DK now? XDDDDD
  • Oughash
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    Draxys wrote: »
    Making everything "fair" is never actually "fair" to everyone. They should have kept a dynamic ultimate gain system and toned down gain from things like streak and impulse, instead of this boring crap that we have now.

    Agreed
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    lj
    Edited by timidobserver on April 17, 2015 2:16AM
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