Arrows: Make them an item?

demonaffinity · April 2015

This has probably been discussed before, but quite frankly I don't care. People come and go on the forum and some change their minds. So here is a fresh discussion.

Personally I think it would add immersion to the game to "force" archers to count their arrows and craft/loot em off bodies. It could add several potential passives for the champion system too, like chance to retrieve used arrows on dead enemies.

It would also add potential for an arrow marked for different types of arrows?

Do you think this would be a good idea?

I kept the poll simple.

Tonturri · April 2015

No.

I played WoW when it had arrows, and it was nothing but a pain in the butt. I don't think it's a good idea because it seems like something far too easy to implement badly.

Zhoyzu · April 2015

No.

doesnt fit with the games combat mechanic. otherwise im for it.

Keron · April 2015

No.

Oh hell no. WoW Hunter and the evergreen of "oh ***, I ran out of arrows" two trash groups from Nefarian.

BigM · April 2015

No.

Nope with this game it would only cause more lag!

demonaffinity · April 2015

Maybe.

Keron wrote: »

Oh hell no. WoW Hunter and the evergreen of "oh ***, I ran out of arrows" two trash groups from Nefarian.

I never played WoW, but I didn't mind the way it was in Skyrim personally. It would definately be different in ESO though.

coolermh · April 2015

Yes.

We need arrows that add dmg. Like Fire arrow adds 500 fire dmg to each light attack

Keron · April 2015

No.

demonaffinity wrote: »

Keron wrote: »

Oh hell no. WoW Hunter and the evergreen of "oh ***, I ran out of arrows" two trash groups from Nefarian.

I never played WoW, but I didn't mind the way it was in Skyrim personally. It would definately be different in ESO though.

Long story short: WoW raids were much more time-consuming and had trash respawn to deal with. Nefarian was the final boss in one of the earlier raids, something which meant you spent an evening or two (there were raid IDs) fighting through trash already. Let's just say the group chat was definitely not PG-13 at that point.

MissBizz · April 2015

No.

It adds a significant handicap and cost to a certain weapon.. I don't like that idea.

SHADOW2KK · April 2015

No.

Good idea, but that is more of single player thing, on here, what is the point?

On the TES games, archery, with the help of some mods are realistic, there is nothing realistic using a bow on ESO, lol I mean, every arrow is an aimbot, they curve to your targets, which really annoyed me when game released.

You can dodge the homing arrows though:}

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · April 2015

No.

No, just NO!

They're nothing but a PITA in games that have them (which thank God aren't numerous these days), I see nothing positive to say about them (or any other one-off projectiles like bullets, darts, shurikens, etc.).

Psychobunni · April 2015

No.

coolermh wrote: »

We need arrows that add dmg. Like Fire arrow adds 500 fire dmg to each light attack

Or..fire/light oils like LOTRO, could even be made from existing plants, specific arrows aren't the only answer.

but technically isn't that what the flame enchant is?

Thymos · April 2015

Maybe.

I could go either way on this. Maybe make limited arrows that do a buffed bit of damage, otherwise you just use normal arrows when you're out.

gard · April 2015

No.

The poll is missing the "Oh HELL no" answer.

bellanca6561n · April 2015

No.

I'd scream, rage and howl if they were to take away arrows from Ultima Online or ammunition from Eve Online.

This is game is MMO-light, though, and here I'd do all those unpleasant things were they added.

demonaffinity · April 2015

Maybe.

gard wrote: »

The poll is missing the "Oh HELL no" answer.

I'll make one next time. By the looks of it, it would have won this round as well :P

I_killed_Vivec · April 2015

Yes.

Of course!

Why do people want things so easy... and then complain about how easy the game is?

drackonir · April 2015

coolermh wrote: »

We need arrows that add dmg. Like Fire arrow adds 500 fire dmg to each light attack

main reason why we shouldn't have arrows. This would further unbalanced the game. Instead with destro sticks all DK would run around shooting flaming arrow

rlbolab14a_ESO · April 2015

No.

If you make them into an item then they will have to make the bow OPed because it's the only weapon that you have to use time, money, and materials to make it work on a daily basis. No other weapon requires this so the bow should not be on par but superior to every other weapon because of this added sink. Since this will have everyone crying, then no, arrows should not be an item and leave bows on par with every other weapon.

Perhaps we should add sanding stones to the game that has to be crafted so everyone that uses a sword will have to take time in the day to craft sanding stones in order to resharpen their swords? Each sanding stone you pass by it only sharpens it by 1 percent, so if you went out in a killing spree and your sword sharpness is at 30, then you better be ready to buy/craft 70 stones and click sharpen 70 times on your weapon. All of a sudden it doesn't sound like a good idea does it? Good luck with that.

Gidorick · April 2015

Maybe.

Only if it were special arrows that were limited. The basic arrow should remain the same.

Nestor · April 2015

No.

Arrow management in Skyrim was a chore. Can't even imagine what it would be like in this game. I have watched videos of PvP where I see players standing on top of a keep spamming arrows into the crowd below (as they should). Thinking about what would happen if they ran out and had to re-supply?

Vaerth · April 2015

No.

demonaffinity wrote: »

This has probably been discussed before, but quite frankly I don't care. People come and go on the forum and some change their minds. So here is a fresh discussion.

Personally I think it would add immersion to the game to "force" archers to count their arrows and craft/loot em off bodies. It could add several potential passives for the champion system too, like chance to retrieve used arrows on dead enemies.

It would also add potential for an arrow marked for different types of arrows?

Do you think this would be a good idea?

I kept the poll simple.

And have mages find scrolls to cast spells? No, not in an MMO it would not be fair in PvP.

bellanca6561n · April 2015

No.

Yep, well, folks keep talking up that realism on the sexy armor topic.

Yeah, but that argument has about as much to do with realism as it has to do with armor.

RSram · April 2015

Yes.

I vote yes, but don't want an arrow limit, just different type of arrows that you slot next to the bow; for example, if would be cool to be able to use negative potions on an arrow to defined that arrow's type and maybe enchantments. It would also be cool to be able to craft arrows of different types like way armor is crafted in the game:

Light arrows - extreme range, fast, but gives light damage.
Medium arrows - a balance between light and heavy arrows.
Heavy arrows - short range, slow, but gives heavy damage.

But, I don't want a limit on the number of arrows! PERIOD!

Rosveen · April 2015

No.

Only if swords and staves break after every hit too. What a fun game it would be!

ThatNeonZebraAgain · April 2015

Yes.

RSram wrote: »

I vote yes, but don't want an arrow limit, just different type of arrows that you slot next to the bow; for example, if would be cool to be able to use negative potions on an arrow to defined that arrow's type and maybe enchantments. It would also be cool to be able to craft arrows of different types like way armor is crafted in the game:

Light arrows - extreme range, fast, but gives light damage.
Medium arrows - a balance between light and heavy arrows.
Heavy arrows - short range, slow, but gives heavy damage.

But, I don't want a limit on the number of arrows! PERIOD!

This. Make it a slot for poisons, adding elemental or poison damage/effects, etc. Arrows themselves are unlimited, but they serve to enhance/modify Bow abilities.

RedTalon · April 2015

No.

MMOS can't work like offline games with arrows and such.

They would need to up the damage for bow skills if they start tying it into consumables has well, which makes even more problems over all would cause more problems then solve or be ecol enough to do

Lord_Kreegan · April 2015

Maybe.

Let me project the future:

Player A: "I'm a special little snowflake and my arrows are underpowered!!! ZOS, you must make our arrows more powerful!!! We only do xxx DPS with our arrows and everybody else is doing yyy!!! Here's an exhaustingly long and biased analysis to prove it..."

Long thread with 500 responses follows on the forum.

Player B: "I'm entitled and those arrows are overpowered!!! ZOS, you need to nerf those arrows!!! They're doing xxx DPS with those arrows and everybody else is only doing yyy!!! Here's an exhaustingly long and biased analysis to prove it..."

Another long thread with 500 responses follows on the forums.

Player C: "I'm privileged and arrows should only be obtainable through guild traders at exorbitant prices!!! Here's a ridiculous off-the-mark YouTube video I made to prove it..."

The forum is bombarded with new polls for months...

Is this really what you want?

H3Li0S · April 2015

Yes.

I voted yes but now that i think about it, No, its a bad idea IMO. I remember when i played FFXIV when it was first released. Archer had arrow and it was a pain in the butt. It took inventory space, always had to upgrade to better arrows, when you have no arrow left your forced to go to town, cost gold etc..

The only way i would accept having arrows, is if it was a piece of equipment for offhand and was unlimited, that would be great. For exemple; quivers in diablo 3.

Slurg · April 2015

No.

Lord_Kreegan wrote: »

Let me project the future:

Player A: "I'm a special little snowflake and my arrows are underpowered!!! ZOS, you must make our arrows more powerful!!! We only do xxx DPS with our arrows and everybody else is doing yyy!!! Here's an exhaustingly long and biased analysis to prove it..."

Long thread with 500 responses follows on the forum.

Player B: "I'm entitled and those arrows are overpowered!!! ZOS, you need to nerf those arrows!!! They're doing xxx DPS with those arrows and everybody else is only doing yyy!!! Here's an exhaustingly long and biased analysis to prove it..."

Another long thread with 500 responses follows on the forums.

Player C: "I'm privileged and arrows should only be obtainable through guild traders at exorbitant prices!!! Here's a ridiculous off-the-mark YouTube video I made to prove it..."

The forum is bombarded with new polls for months...

Is this really what you want?

You are so right, this is exactly what would happen!

Seems adding this feature would unnecessarily over-complicate combat and force devs to spend a lot of their time "balancing" for yet one more factor. And somehow, some way, it would be blamed for causing more lag.

I don't think we need any of that.

Sotha_Sil · April 2015

No.

Nice idea but they have enough stuff to do atm.

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