Would still love to hear what people think about these future features!

Both Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood quest lines belonged to the absolute best in TES IV:Oblivion. They were outstanding in scope, objectives, and storytelling. I fully expect them to be implemented with no less quality in ESO.

I'll give some examples of what I have in mind:

• Instead of just breaking and entering houses to steal some trinkets, TG quests could send you off to heavily guarded estates, where you'd have to plant compromising evidence in the owner's night stand, with him sleeping in the bed right next to you. It is absolutely crucial to the mission that you remain undetected and no-one ever gets wise of your presence there.
• The Night Mother gives you only a name of someone who needs killing in a far away town. You'll need to travel there, ask around inconspicuously about your mark, correctly identify him (he could be living under a false name), and then watch him from the shadows over a longer time span in order to find an opportunity to do the deed without getting caught red-handed.

Now imagine that there could also be quests for lawful players to act as guards or bodyguards for some time...

I get the impression that the legerdemain skill line is just a place holder for the thieves guild, I'm betting when they have it complete they'll change the name and add active skill

I'm hoping we get some repeatable quests/dailies after you finish the main quest line similar to skyrim's dark brotherhood forever/ thieves guild special jobs.

And I hope such repeatable quests aren't just in cyrodiil like the fighters guild bounties are...

infraction2008b16_ESO wrote: »

I'm hoping we get some repeatable quests/dailies after you finish the main quest line similar to skyrim's dark brotherhood forever/ thieves guild special jobs.

And I hope such repeatable quests aren't just in cyrodiil like the fighters guild bounties are...

Agreed. It would spark some life in the open world depending on how it would work.

Well, as to what the quest content will likely be about;

This is the era when the two groups are founded. The questlines will likely be based on these origins. We get to found them! (More or less...) Also, in the EP questline, we see that the Brotherhood is already starting to splinter from the Morag Tong

Kublakan wrote: »

Hi, I'm just like you and hope both of these guild will be added in the future. I would also suggest the Morag Tong, present in Morrowind. The storyline are absolutely hooking, with a heavy atmosphere of unseen and dark corner alley.

In junction to the justice system, I see the real possibility to actually take contract from these guild. And, it could give an incentive to actually take down a npc, instead of killing it without purpose or by accident.

Thieving also could be achieve by contract. And as mentioned above, bounty hunting on member of these guild who have achieve a given notoriety.

In all, these guild have such potential it can not be ignored.

Kubla

Well, that's why they said the justice system is essential for future updates.

This is the concept art for the Thieves Guild Armor that will be placed in game:


This is the art for the weapons:


This is the concept art for the Dark Brotherhood armor that will be placed in the game:


This is the art for the weapons:



Now you know.

@Kublakan
Here's the concept for the Morag Tong armor that will be placed in the game:



All of these and more were showcased at QuakeCon last year.

Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jk7LrLgRfg

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

@Kublakan
Here's the concept for the Morag Tong armor that will be placed in the game:



All of these and more were showcased at QuakeCon last year.

Watch the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jk7LrLgRfg

I hate those god damn medium helmets! Why do we HAVE to have these weird desert head dresses?! I want COWLS AND SH'T!

It's all what they showcased at QuakeCon. Hopefully we'll see it sooner rather than later but it exists and is planned. How it'll be implemented is another story.

I'm the first person who'd be super excited to see both thieves guild and dark brotherhood in game, but after a year and not seeing it implemented, well doesn't look quite so good. I was a little more into thieves guild (though in real life I'm totally not that way), but it's a game lol, I liked that often the plots crosses with elements of you uncovering even more seedier elements (such as corrupt watchmen), in that way, felt like you were doing a community service by planting that evidence lol. I did enjoy some things about dark brotherhood, but I usually didn't have to kill anyone in thieves guild. I will say that orphan matron who was cruel to kids had it coming (didn't feel guilty about that contract at all). I love how ethics is a bit of a grey area in the older games. Not sure I feel like my choices truly matter in this one, but realistically there's only two paths you can take anyway. But, that's not really on target with what you were asking (when you get technical, there is in this one, usually only one path you can take; it just seems like you have options by the way the quests are worded).

I agree probably not as cool assassin gear as there could be, but on the whole I thought the starting gear was not too impressive or had enough variety across most classes. I don't know anything about past lv 20, was off the game, thinking if enough time had passed it'd give them time to make some positive changes. As I see no new additions to guilds (not player guilds but game guilds), well...not even 1 or 2 new ones, so not looking too good, but who knows maybe in 6 months we'll see something. I do like the concept art, if it will indeed be used. Think it's safe to say game guilds were a huge thing to every elder scrolls game (trade guilds totally don't count), now while I thought the blackwood company was corrupt as money lenders, they had some awesome homes (I'm guessing player housing is still not implemented, which considering a vast majority of MMO doing player housing, and it has always been so in elder scrolls; so I guess I'm not understand why none of this was being looked into). Maybe, alot of us played them & so we have all this lore we come into the game knowing and experiencing, that's probably both a good and bad thing. Makes it harder to introduce new things, but you can build once people have shared enough common experiences. Granted, I never finished all the main quests, but I can guarantee you, I completed a good majority of the side quests (probably why I didn't get to the main quests enough LOL), but that's good gaming if you ask me, it doesn't force you to go in a direction.

Well , I hope Zeni don't only put a questline with so ability...
What i hope for the thieve guild is a thing like Skyrim with the quest of influence, but like it's a MMO , i imagine that your character have to choise a guild situate below a city and you have to keep and increase the influance of your guild in your city and other city. And when you got the biggest influance your guild receive better contract ,.. Well For me i hope the questline is just the introduction that open the door to a kind PVP with the influance of your guild.
(Sorry for my bad english, i'm not an native speaker)

the REALITY is it is VERY likely going to be just like the other guilds, cept with different objectes. Probably stealign certain objects for teh thieves guilds, and killing certain people for the DB.

That's just sad...

Because Zeni don't put them at launch, they need the justice system and it's just my hope by the way