Chillrend Double Pen Fix

Telel · April 2015

Havoc (or IR it's honestly hard to tell which is doing it) has actually done more to help blue make a viable effort for first place than in helping red claim and hold much of anything.

Also Telel is mocking them for not fighting the blues. They are even making chicken noises on the other side of the screen right now complete with flapping wing motions and foot strutting.

Minnesinger · April 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

So the campaign is over? I was expecting this result. The last night AD had huge zergs focusing only on DC. I ran with some guildies and thought we go somewhere else when tens of these players rode past us. In all fairness with those numbers AD could have attcked EP at least when they took Alessia. Apparently, there were some (zergs) who preferred camping DC gates rather than push EP. At that point we left Chill.

When it's a close match and you're in first, the most efficient way of gaining points in your favor against 2nd is to hit 2nd. Hitting EP puts AD up +10 points (per keep) vs blue. Hitting blue is +20 in their favor due to both taking points from blue and gaining them.

In short, if you want to catch someone (or keep them down), that's who you hit. Not the irrelevant team mired in third.

They had already taken everything DC had when they started to camp the gates. Seriously, with the numbers AD have they should take a keep or two from EP. That isn´t even too much asked. The zone chat was full of similar opinions you seem to support. Hope the zerg mentality wouldn´t spread more than it is necessary. Sadly, these groups have no other vision than move in one big blob. At least I can´t enjoy of it. The group I was in just fooled around. Attacked the red emp group in the dolmen etc. I see many other viable aspects of this game outside of the type warfare which was prevelant last night. ZENI should make the warfare more than zerging and pvp would just benefit from it.

Erock25 · April 2015

All is fair in war. I just hate that lag though. Such a bummer when you can't accomplish anything because your skills hardly work.

ChampionSheWolf · April 2015

michaelarryn wrote: »

Lol keep laughing, its honestly the only way EP or AD can win a campaign in Chill anyway. Congratulations, Aldmeri Doufuses and Ebonheart Punks! =P

Insightful. I am truly amazed by all the evidence you bring to the table.

exiledtyrant · April 2015

I just hated all that tower camping from AD.

Agrippa_Invisus · April 2015

Minnesinger wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

So the campaign is over? I was expecting this result. The last night AD had huge zergs focusing only on DC. I ran with some guildies and thought we go somewhere else when tens of these players rode past us. In all fairness with those numbers AD could have attcked EP at least when they took Alessia. Apparently, there were some (zergs) who preferred camping DC gates rather than push EP. At that point we left Chill.

When it's a close match and you're in first, the most efficient way of gaining points in your favor against 2nd is to hit 2nd. Hitting EP puts AD up +10 points (per keep) vs blue. Hitting blue is +20 in their favor due to both taking points from blue and gaining them.

In short, if you want to catch someone (or keep them down), that's who you hit. Not the irrelevant team mired in third.

They had already taken everything DC had when they started to camp the gates. Seriously, with the numbers AD have they should take a keep or two from EP. That isn´t even too much asked. The zone chat was full of similar opinions you seem to support. Hope the zerg mentality wouldn´t spread more than it is necessary. Sadly, these groups have no other vision than move in one big blob. At least I can´t enjoy of it. The group I was in just fooled around. Attacked the red emp group in the dolmen etc. I see many other viable aspects of this game outside of the type warfare which was prevelant last night. ZENI should make the warfare more than zerging and pvp would just benefit from it.

So?

All they need to do is crater DC's points earnings. After that they benefit by not turning their attention from DC and farming DC at their gates until DC is mathematically eliminated from the competition.

That +10 points an hour from regaining Alessia doesn't matter if they lose 20 points in their favor from DC regaining Rayles while AD is pushing Alessia hard (because EP always defends it due to the Siren Call of the Potato).

The only thing Alessia benefits them is home keep bonus and that doesn't matter on the scoreboard, only on an individual level.

FENGRUSH · April 2015

Need this to happen more often. I hate having to run around for PvP all the time. Best when it comes to you!

Takllin · April 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Minnesinger wrote: »

So the campaign is over? I was expecting this result. The last night AD had huge zergs focusing only on DC. I ran with some guildies and thought we go somewhere else when tens of these players rode past us. In all fairness with those numbers AD could have attcked EP at least when they took Alessia. Apparently, there were some (zergs) who preferred camping DC gates rather than push EP. At that point we left Chill.

When it's a close match and you're in first, the most efficient way of gaining points in your favor against 2nd is to hit 2nd. Hitting EP puts AD up +10 points (per keep) vs blue. Hitting blue is +20 in their favor due to both taking points from blue and gaining them.

In short, if you want to catch someone (or keep them down), that's who you hit. Not the irrelevant team mired in third.

They had already taken everything DC had when they started to camp the gates. Seriously, with the numbers AD have they should take a keep or two from EP. That isn´t even too much asked. The zone chat was full of similar opinions you seem to support. Hope the zerg mentality wouldn´t spread more than it is necessary. Sadly, these groups have no other vision than move in one big blob. At least I can´t enjoy of it. The group I was in just fooled around. Attacked the red emp group in the dolmen etc. I see many other viable aspects of this game outside of the type warfare which was prevelant last night. ZENI should make the warfare more than zerging and pvp would just benefit from it.

So?

All they need to do is crater DC's points earnings. After that they benefit by not turning their attention from DC and farming DC at their gates until DC is mathematically eliminated from the competition.

That +10 points an hour from regaining Alessia doesn't matter if they lose 20 points in their favor from DC regaining Rayles while AD is pushing Alessia hard (because EP always defends it due to the Siren Call of the Potato).

The only thing Alessia benefits them is home keep bonus and that doesn't matter on the scoreboard, only on an individual level.

Some people just don't understand.

Crown · April 2015

michaelarryn wrote: »

Less than 2000 away from finally catching up and beating AD and then we get our faces beat in by both of em in the last hours of the campaign.

There was no coordination between yellow and red that I'm aware of. A lot of what happened there was due to my direction (at least until about 10pm eastern when we went offline). Our (yellow) goal for the day was to make more points than blue. My advice to the campaign and direction to the alliance groups was, "if we take *something* of blue that reduces the points they make for the next score tick, and red takes the same of ours, as long as we make more points than blue then we are ahead in the campaign. Other than defending our one scroll, if blue was pushed back to their gates (as they were for about 2 hours), most of the organized groups ignored red. We made good points too ;-)

This strategy ONLY works if red are FAR behind (as they were by about 10k with slightly over one day left in the campaign). Blue tends to have full population after everyone else goes to sleep, so they almost always take the map around 3-4am EST and hold it until more of us get on late morning / early afternoon.

If we actually win the campaign, it will have been well earned. With equal population, our score ticks are almost always higher.

ShadowStep · April 2015

That 1 shot doe.... lmao

tonemd · April 2015

It makes sense that AD kept the pressure on DC and left EP alone to basically take the East side of the map. It didn't make sense that EP didn't scoop up everything AD had right behind them. I logged at 11pm EST so maybe they did later on, but the hours I was on AD and EP pushed us back to the temple gates, EP took one of our scrolls to Drakelow, and AD continued to bang it's head trying to get our remaining scroll. We let EP have it in order to concentrate on AD. That whole time the east was quiet and EP was content to RP in their keeps, I guess. They finally got in gear when I logged.

You crowned an Emp, great. Use it against the point leader.

WraithAzraiel · April 2015

War is a game of numbers.

Agrippa_Invisus · April 2015

tonemd wrote: »

It makes sense that AD kept the pressure on DC and left EP alone to basically take the East side of the map. It didn't make sense that EP didn't scoop up everything AD had right behind them. I logged at 11pm EST so maybe they did later on, but the hours I was on AD and EP pushed us back to the temple gates, EP took one of our scrolls to Drakelow, and AD continued to bang it's head trying to get our remaining scroll. We let EP have it in order to concentrate on AD. That whole time the east was quiet and EP was content to RP in their keeps, I guess. They finally got in gear when I logged.

You crowned an Emp, great. Use it against the point leader.

Why should they?

Seriously, what motivation does EP have, when mathematically eliminated, to do anything other than cheese you both off and troll like mad? If I'm in an EP guild on Chillrend, I farm AP until reset, and let AD and DC fall over each other to try to not be the one getting double teamed.

Telel · April 2015

Telel is going to humbly point out that right now the brave daggets who boldly shout their levels of skill from the very highest of forum tops are pop locked on Chillrend. At 3 am in the morning of Texas.

Their lesser opponents who are obviously of such inferior stock that they rely soley on numbers and exploits to win are......

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One bar each.

EDIT: AD jumped up to 2 bars right as DC crowned an emperor.

Tors · April 2015

The OP is under the illisuion that anyone gives a rats back-side about the score at the end of the campain.

Im assuming he is talking about the US Chillrend, but I guess its the same as the EU.

People play to have a good fight. The score gives the average player nothing. (aside from their personal ranks) Im guessing that the blues gave a good fight and were worth going after.

They definatly were on Chill EU last night, was great fun.

ArvenAldmeri · April 2015

You know, this is not just problem of EP... it seems there are deals between all factions and guilds. Last time I was on Chillrend, campaign was full but almost no one talking in zone chat and people stupidly attacking forts that are completely away from everything else, where is really nothing, no one defending it and suddenly when gates are broken, huge zerg of blues ran to the keep killing those few people there. I was just watching that from far away thinking "wtf". It really seemed that AD players just came here to destroy the keeps and then let themselves kill easily... actually all campaign seemed just full of bots because really almost no talk in zone chat but full campaign at the same time. Something weird happening there screwing up fun of pvp...

Tors · April 2015

ArvenAldmeri wrote: »

almost no talk in zone chat but full campaign at the same time. Something weird happening there screwing up fun of pvp...

Think its called TS.

I doubt there is much coperation between factions, yes it does happen and I have seen it so I am not disputing that, but its hard to get the average player to do something that does not benefit them, and much much harder to get multiple players to do likewise.

c0rp · April 2015

Thats X-COM baby!

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO · April 2015

So was anyone around last night when a scroll carried by reds south of aleswell jumped literally across the map all the way to behind the northern red scroll gate ? It's was I..rationally R..donkulous.....was just wondering if anyone noticed that last night

Agrippa_Invisus · April 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

So was anyone around last night when a scroll carried by reds south of aleswell jumped literally across the map all the way to behind the northern red scroll gate ? It's was I..rationally R..donkulous.....was just wondering if anyone noticed that last night

I was told that it was due to the scroll carrier getting feared through the world by a NB.

That double edged sword, yo.