newtinmpls wrote: »After watching the Deltia's Gaming videos where he MOPPS with a lvl 11 character ... if you are blaming your lack of #1 leaderboardness on the racial passives.... well let's just say you can do better than that.
I would pay easy 25euro just for a race change.
On release i had no clue at all what benefits certain race passives give and i took a really bad race for my class and im sure allot of other people have the same problem.
+ i dont like the look annymore of my character.
@ZOS Please add a race change wich include a recustomization aswell!
darthbelanb14_ESO wrote: »No, just no on race change. You made the choice, and now you have to deal with it.
After watching the Deltia's Gaming videos where he MOPPS with a lvl 11 character ... if you are blaming your lack of #1 leaderboardness on the racial passives.... well let's just say you can do better than that.
3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.
Regarding all those examples from real life...people, this is a game. Don't compare it to difficulties in real life, don't compare it to buying a car because the two have nothing in common.
ThatNeonZebraAgain wrote: »In last Friday's ESO Live they said they are planning to implement appearance change, name change, and race change as Crown Store options. They did not give a date, but they are working on it.
Both race and name change are coming, they already confirmed that on last Friday's show.
wenxue2222b16_ESO wrote: »Thing is the way I approach this game is that you walk it in your character's shoes/paws. You live their life. The good and the bad. You grow with them, you work with the person they are, you experience things through their eyes.
There are sometimes good reasons for changing your name (I would not mind adding a surname to one of my characters) and sometimes a good reason for changing your gender (but the psychological and physical hard work that goes with that is really something else).
Changing your race? Changing who you are? Changing your character's background and culture totally?
I'm a big no to that.
You don't just get to change these things if they prove difficult in life. Why be able to change it in game?
newtinmpls wrote: »I'd posted a NO in response to the idea of race/name change.Shader_Shibes wrote: »Fair enough if you can fathom the will power to level to v14 again, or have the time and no social/work life to to so.
I suspect it's like jazz ... if you don't get it, then no explanation is needed. If you don't, then no explanation will suffice.
But for the sake of clarity:
1-I haven't gotten to v1 yet, much less 14.
2-name change will open the door to trolls getting unwarranted "second chances" (well considering how careful/slow any actions are taken by GMS - which is probably a good thing - more likely 4th/5th chances). If you want a name change because you are wanting to actually play a character that you rolled up as a mule - I have no sympathy for your lack of forethought (and was mecilessly mocking of a friend's after-the-fact dismay at having named a character "Mulesalix the Second").
3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.
Which, really I can't (much). I get that I am a poor choice, both skill and apptitude-wise for a PvP game or any kind of war. I would be one of the nameless faceless multitudes who get killed in droves while the few lucky/skilled "heroes" survive. I have no desire to play that out. If there were a way to "serve in wartime" in Cyrodiil in some non-combatant way (rescue operations for persons rendered homeless, or some sort of healer thing) I might be tempted. Or something based on freeing slaves (think Twin Lamps in Morrowind which was WAAY underdeveloped).
anyway....
Ridiculous. I don't get why you have to oppose if other players want to maximize their possibility in the game. Racial passive changes have affected some races negatively, such as argonians, and it wasn't their lack of forethought, they all started newbies and they had to perceive the mechanisms of the game in order to be able to maximize their build.
Most of your arguments are invalid cry-outs, stopping those veterans that are playing the game competitively. The game has changed in every way in one year, many classes had to adopt to magicka-based builds as DDs before stamina based builds were buffed in many patches. Now even class skills have stamina morphs. They opened many possibilities that people want to try out, but they lack behind in many aspects, such as the stamina regeneration for a redguard makes it very easy to maintain stamina, but I challenge you to do the same with a breton.
You can continue your role-playing in the game, and probably those who take it seriously won't change their races. However in my opinion you are simply inexperienced in the game as you mentioned that you are getting mopped on the floor in cyrodiil, and trying to hold people back who want to improve, by protesting race change. Just don't be that guy.
I would pay easy 25euro just for a race change.
On release i had no clue at all what benefits certain race passives give and i took a really bad race for my class and im sure allot of other people have the same problem.
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newtinmpls wrote: »I'd posted a NO in response to the idea of race/name change.Shader_Shibes wrote: »Fair enough if you can fathom the will power to level to v14 again, or have the time and no social/work life to to so.
I suspect it's like jazz ... if you don't get it, then no explanation is needed. If you don't, then no explanation will suffice.
But for the sake of clarity:
1-I haven't gotten to v1 yet, much less 14.
2-name change will open the door to trolls getting unwarranted "second chances" (well considering how careful/slow any actions are taken by GMS - which is probably a good thing - more likely 4th/5th chances). If you want a name change because you are wanting to actually play a character that you rolled up as a mule - I have no sympathy for your lack of forethought (and was mecilessly mocking of a friend's after-the-fact dismay at having named a character "Mulesalix the Second").
3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.
Which, really I can't (much). I get that I am a poor choice, both skill and apptitude-wise for a PvP game or any kind of war. I would be one of the nameless faceless multitudes who get killed in droves while the few lucky/skilled "heroes" survive. I have no desire to play that out. If there were a way to "serve in wartime" in Cyrodiil in some non-combatant way (rescue operations for persons rendered homeless, or some sort of healer thing) I might be tempted. Or something based on freeing slaves (think Twin Lamps in Morrowind which was WAAY underdeveloped).
anyway....
deathpandax_ESO wrote: »newtinmpls wrote: »I'd posted a NO in response to the idea of race/name change.Shader_Shibes wrote: »Fair enough if you can fathom the will power to level to v14 again, or have the time and no social/work life to to so.
I suspect it's like jazz ... if you don't get it, then no explanation is needed. If you don't, then no explanation will suffice.
But for the sake of clarity:
1-I haven't gotten to v1 yet, much less 14.
2-name change will open the door to trolls getting unwarranted "second chances" (well considering how careful/slow any actions are taken by GMS - which is probably a good thing - more likely 4th/5th chances). If you want a name change because you are wanting to actually play a character that you rolled up as a mule - I have no sympathy for your lack of forethought (and was mecilessly mocking of a friend's after-the-fact dismay at having named a character "Mulesalix the Second").
3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.
Which, really I can't (much). I get that I am a poor choice, both skill and apptitude-wise for a PvP game or any kind of war. I would be one of the nameless faceless multitudes who get killed in droves while the few lucky/skilled "heroes" survive. I have no desire to play that out. If there were a way to "serve in wartime" in Cyrodiil in some non-combatant way (rescue operations for persons rendered homeless, or some sort of healer thing) I might be tempted. Or something based on freeing slaves (think Twin Lamps in Morrowind which was WAAY underdeveloped).
anyway....
Ridiculous. I don't get why you have to oppose if other players want to maximize their possibility in the game. Racial passive changes have affected some races negatively, such as argonians, and it wasn't their lack of forethought, they all started newbies and they had to perceive the mechanisms of the game in order to be able to maximize their build.
Most of your arguments are invalid cry-outs, stopping those veterans that are playing the game competitively. The game has changed in every way in one year, many classes had to adopt to magicka-based builds as DDs before stamina based builds were buffed in many patches. Now even class skills have stamina morphs. They opened many possibilities that people want to try out, but they lack behind in many aspects, such as the stamina regeneration for a redguard makes it very easy to maintain stamina, but I challenge you to do the same with a breton.
You can continue your role-playing in the game, and probably those who take it seriously won't change their races. However in my opinion you are simply inexperienced in the game as you mentioned that you are getting mopped on the floor in cyrodiil, and trying to hold people back who want to improve, by protesting race change. Just don't be that guy.
The problem with race changes is, everyone that is stamina is just going to chose Imperial, and Magika will go Altmer/Breton.
The way I see it, if you wanted to min/max your stats end-game, you should have put more thought into what race you chose.
I would pay easy 25euro just for a race change.
On release i had no clue at all what benefits certain race passives give and i took a really bad race for my class and im sure allot of other people have the same problem.
+ i dont like the look annymore of my character.
@ZOS Please add a race change wich include a recustomization aswell!
deathpandax_ESO wrote: »newtinmpls wrote: »I'd posted a NO in response to the idea of race/name change.Shader_Shibes wrote: »Fair enough if you can fathom the will power to level to v14 again, or have the time and no social/work life to to so.
I suspect it's like jazz ... if you don't get it, then no explanation is needed. If you don't, then no explanation will suffice.
But for the sake of clarity:
1-I haven't gotten to v1 yet, much less 14.
2-name change will open the door to trolls getting unwarranted "second chances" (well considering how careful/slow any actions are taken by GMS - which is probably a good thing - more likely 4th/5th chances). If you want a name change because you are wanting to actually play a character that you rolled up as a mule - I have no sympathy for your lack of forethought (and was mecilessly mocking of a friend's after-the-fact dismay at having named a character "Mulesalix the Second").
3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.
Which, really I can't (much). I get that I am a poor choice, both skill and apptitude-wise for a PvP game or any kind of war. I would be one of the nameless faceless multitudes who get killed in droves while the few lucky/skilled "heroes" survive. I have no desire to play that out. If there were a way to "serve in wartime" in Cyrodiil in some non-combatant way (rescue operations for persons rendered homeless, or some sort of healer thing) I might be tempted. Or something based on freeing slaves (think Twin Lamps in Morrowind which was WAAY underdeveloped).
anyway....
Ridiculous. I don't get why you have to oppose if other players want to maximize their possibility in the game. Racial passive changes have affected some races negatively, such as argonians, and it wasn't their lack of forethought, they all started newbies and they had to perceive the mechanisms of the game in order to be able to maximize their build.
Most of your arguments are invalid cry-outs, stopping those veterans that are playing the game competitively. The game has changed in every way in one year, many classes had to adopt to magicka-based builds as DDs before stamina based builds were buffed in many patches. Now even class skills have stamina morphs. They opened many possibilities that people want to try out, but they lack behind in many aspects, such as the stamina regeneration for a redguard makes it very easy to maintain stamina, but I challenge you to do the same with a breton.
You can continue your role-playing in the game, and probably those who take it seriously won't change their races. However in my opinion you are simply inexperienced in the game as you mentioned that you are getting mopped on the floor in cyrodiil, and trying to hold people back who want to improve, by protesting race change. Just don't be that guy.
The problem with race changes is, everyone that is stamina is just going to chose Imperial, and Magika will go Altmer/Breton.
The way I see it, if you wanted to min/max your stats end-game, you should have put more thought into what race you chose.
newtinmpls wrote: »After watching the Deltia's Gaming videos where he MOPPS with a lvl 11 character ... if you are blaming your lack of #1 leaderboardness on the racial passives.... well let's just say you can do better than that.
You must be trolling.newtinmpls wrote: »
Because, theoretically (being that this is an adult game) you are an adult and get to take responsibility for your choices. Yes stuff changes - in game - in life - and you learn to deal with it.
More spefically to this game it's an MMORPG . And lore-specifically, we are in the midst of a dragon break. Things change ... and will change more.