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Please add race and name change to the crown store!

  • Aldruin
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    newtinmpls wrote: »
    After watching the Deltia's Gaming videos where he MOPPS with a lvl 11 character ... if you are blaming your lack of #1 leaderboardness on the racial passives.... well let's just say you can do better than that.

    I am sure Deltia is a good gamer, therefore he will choose a good race. I actually checked now his last video and he spoke a lot about how race affects everything. He spoke about he can play so much easier as a breton magicka nightblade than a khajiit nightblade. So if you are such a big fan if his, just listen to him and you will realise how false you argument is.
    I don't aim for #1 on the leadboard, but if you think a bit, you will realise that out of two equally skilled players with the best set combos that one will win, which chose the best race. It's that simple. For #1, you do need a good race, or much better skills than any other competitive player.
  • smokes
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    zenimax did say early on that there would be name changes available at a later date.

    my character was named in haste

    mee'yaow is now VR12 and desperately seeks a renaming to something not quite so lame.
  • Jaxsun
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    dalgrimar wrote: »
    I would pay easy 25euro just for a race change.
    On release i had no clue at all what benefits certain race passives give and i took a really bad race for my class and im sure allot of other people have the same problem.
    + i dont like the look annymore of my character.
    @ZOS Please add a race change wich include a recustomization aswell!

    +1 for race, name, gender, class change
  • darthbelanb14_ESO
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    No, just no on race change. You made the choice, and now you have to deal with it.
  • Kendaric
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    No on the race change. I´m fine with name change though.
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    • golfer.dub17_ESO
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      No, just no on race change. You made the choice, and now you have to deal with it.

      "You chose an underpowered race when you were new to the game, now deal with it."

      No, that's ****ing dumb. Either balance the races or give us the ability to fix it ourselves, and imbalance is not something anyone should just "deal with".
      After watching the Deltia's Gaming videos where he MOPPS with a lvl 11 character ... if you are blaming your lack of #1 leaderboardness on the racial passives.... well let's just say you can do better than that.

      Where he mops in what? Solo PvE? Yeah, that's nice, except you can breeze through Solo PvE without so much as even worrying about having green set gear. In dungeons, trials, and pvp, you will really feel it when you have an inadequate build.

      Also the guy is constantly talking about how "___ is best for this build" or "I chose a Nord but would re-roll as ____ if I could".
      3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.

      Oh, your reason is typical min-maxer anti-intellectualism and personal pettiness.

      Clearly that's what they should listen to when designing their game.
      Regarding all those examples from real life...people, this is a game. Don't compare it to difficulties in real life, don't compare it to buying a car because the two have nothing in common.

      Finally someone with some sense.

      "UR RASE SUCKS BUT LEARN TO LIVE WITH IT, CUZ UR CHARACTER WUD HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT IN REAL LIFE, WALK IN UR CHARS SHOES AND-"

      It's a game. It's not supposed to be painful. There isn't supposed to be 'adversity to overcome'. There isn't supposed to be "some people were born inferior and have to deal with it". It's supposed to be enjoyable and fair because that's what games do.

      Please, someone, provide me with a valid reason to be against race changes, and not just the same arbitrary and meaningless bull****.
      Edited by golfer.dub17_ESO on April 13, 2015 1:16PM
    • tengri
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      Both race and name change are coming, they already confirmed that on last Friday's show.
    • ZigoSid
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      Yeah let's add race, faction and class change !

      All the same races, with the same classes and op tankydpshealer builds, in the same faction, can't imagine a better game !

      And don't forget, "play as you want" ! hin hin hin hin hin.
      Edited by ZigoSid on April 13, 2015 1:33PM
    • Zorrashi
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      I personally am against race changes. It's not because of lore reasons or anything, but the fact that because of the passives it can be interpreted as P2W. If the passives give an in game advantage, I say it should be a no-go.

      Name change is fine though. It's just a bunch of letters and symbols that others reference you by, so it is essentially harmless.
    • Trollwut
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      In last Friday's ESO Live they said they are planning to implement appearance change, name change, and race change as Crown Store options. They did not give a date, but they are working on it.
      tengri wrote: »
      Both race and name change are coming, they already confirmed that on last Friday's show.

      That would be awesome!

      I understand all those saying No to it, but you're just not thinking far enough.
      Sure, if you're a ***, you have to deal with it. But there are also important reasons for changing.

      Name Change
      If you're happy with your name, why don't you allow to change the names of those who are not? To those who have fear of "giving a troll a second chance": This won't happen. It costs money and trolls do troll because it's for free.
      Other important issues: Someone started the game as a newb. That's what we all did, btw. He loved PvE and PvP, but for now, he has discovered that RP is the thing to do for him. But with "Yetanothercat" as a name, this won't go far. Why not give him the possibility for a name change? He is one active player that does more than someone who quits because he peeped up his character.

      Appearance change
      Get that stick out of your butt, because be honest: What does really change if this happens? Are you taking a portrait of every character and write him down by his name?
      This is something that don't even matter to anyone - but oneself - so what are you complaining about...

      Race change
      To those saying that picking the wrong race is their own fault and they should stick to it: Yes, you have very good characters and everyone loves you. No get your hands out of your pants and listen.
      I am no min/maxer and I love ugly races. Plus on launch of ESO it was mentioned that the race isn't that important - so I choose an Argonian Nightblade. I really love that look, but while not playing a healer, this is just unplayable. Even now I HAVE TO min/max, because otherwise I would drop to any encounter. I use my PvP setup also for PvE leveling (that means mostly sneaking and not pulling more than 2 enemies). Sure with PvE I would get one more enemy, but other classes also can run through PvE with a PvP setup. So even with min/maxing I'm just AVERAGE. I also think that I won't play that game longer than 1-2 months, because this is just frustrating. I know you guys with the "right choice" won't understand this feeling, but on my old guild (before The First Breakup of the game) I knew MANY of them quitting the game, because they are not satisfied with their racial choice.
      "Then race another character!" - Oh, I'd love to!! I really want to play every class, too! But I don't have the time for that. I took me almost half a year to reach VR status. Why? Because I unravelled and discovered EVERYTHING on my way. Plus I go to work, have social things to do, have my own business besides... Really, even if I would try, there is just no time for that.
      Sure I could hardcore farm to VR14 but... hey, I want to play a game because it makes FUN to immerse in it - and rushing really is NO fun to me.
      So please give those not-24/7-hardcore-players a second chance. Thanks.

      You fear that this will lead to heavy min/max situations?
      First of all: Nope.
      Second to that it costs money and when you compare "best race" to "second best race" the effort won't be worth the money.
      Plus you also have choices of some races, so "only Imperials" won't happen. But having a race that simply doesn't fit in any way to your play-style, this is just frustrating.
      And if you fear of that rotating races will be common: No, it won't be. And you just can add a limitation like "one change per 6 months per character" and than it's done.

      Just don't suppress other players when you had luck and did it right.

      The "best race" won't make you the best player. But if you've done the worst choice, you won't get beyond average.
    • Erock25
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      Race change you say? I like it.
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    • dalgrimar
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      Thing is the way I approach this game is that you walk it in your character's shoes/paws. You live their life. The good and the bad. You grow with them, you work with the person they are, you experience things through their eyes.

      There are sometimes good reasons for changing your name (I would not mind adding a surname to one of my characters) and sometimes a good reason for changing your gender (but the psychological and physical hard work that goes with that is really something else).

      Changing your race? Changing who you are? Changing your character's background and culture totally?

      I'm a big no to that.

      You don't just get to change these things if they prove difficult in life. Why be able to change it in game?

      lol...

      Btw i dont just wanna do race change for the passives but more cuz i wanna go female instead of brute male nord
    • ebls_BR
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      I don't like this idea too. There are many reasons, I always gave two.

      First, one of the essences of TES (besides the freedom, exploration, etc.) is the diversity. Racial diversity is one of them. Thus, instead of encouraging the use of only a few builds and one role with some race (Breton Templar Healer, e.g.), developers must try to find a balance, making all races equally viable and thus not favoring the use of only one or two but all 10.

      Second, racial differences can give you some advantages indeed. But it's all relative. These advantages only applie with some specific roles, some specific builds, some specific playstyles, or for some specific purposes. We can't ask or intend to change the game rules just because these rules do not favor our playstyle, our purpose, the role we like to do, etc.

      For instance: Maybe a Breton NB stamina dps (see how specific...) can not do a higher dps than a Bosmer stamina NB, if they are played by two equally skillfull players with the same build, against the same enemy. But I doubt this difference can prevent the Breton player from doing anything that the other does (except the highest dps in the game, the highest leaderbords in the game, the best optimized build for that specific role, purpose, etc.). Also, if the Breton NB stamina dps, uses a better gear or something (skill, armor set, etc.) which focus in his/her passives with maigicka (Shadow Disguise or any NB magicka skill) and increases the dps, he/she might do a better dps than that Bosmer or the Redguard. And more: a Breton NB with a magicka build, usually can do much better than the Bosmer/Redguard in the same conditions (build, rotations, etc.), as dps or healer.

      Finally, if you only want to play a very specific stamina NB in a very specific way, with a very specific build and still be with the highest score in leaderbords, you and everyone always have the option to reroll: it's what I and several people did in this game at some point. Anyway, in my opinion, it's strange that someone who chases the higher score and higher dps (have time, have a good team and want to invest money and time in this game), can not be able to reroll...

      The fact is, racial differences may be relevant for the highest points (I mean, the 3 or 5 highest dps, for example...), to optimize certain builds, to fulfill very specific roles, etc. but not enough to prevent you for doing what anyone/everyone can do (worse or better in some cases). And the most important: people have option of choosing a lot else in this game. They have 8 slots and so, can reroll; can adapt his/her playstyle or your role in your team (change magicka or stamina build, change dps to tank or heal, etc.), and so, reach the highest scores. But people cannot expect to change the game rules at his/her will, and assume that everyone will agree, especially if these changes affects all players in so important ways (population, balance, viable builds, etc.) and even some fundamental things in this series (diversity).
      Edited by ebls_BR on April 13, 2015 3:22PM
    • TheShadowScout
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      Same old story, same old arguments. Mine are still the same as well...

      Name change?
      Yes, please, I do have one alt I'd like to rename to get her more lore-conform for Orsimer names. And maybe do the same to my breton vampy girl... (I usually play elves, and didn't bother overly much naming what I intended to be crafting support and vampire testbed characters, but... now the faults keep nagging at my sense of properity...)
      And since we're merely talking character names and not account names, this won't give any trolls second chances, no more then making another alt would - all the important stuff is done per account, not per character.

      Appereance change?
      Yes, Yes, Yes! So many small details I want to adjust since they looked all right in chargen, and not so good in live game. A shape here, a voice there, some scars here, a eye color there...

      Race change?
      I see no reason for that for any of my characters, I play a -character- after all and not a set of stats. I might want it if they ever introduced new races... if I found one I really thought a better choice for one of my character ideas. But all that aside... I see no reason to deny it to others if they really want it - as long as its costly enough to be not taken lightly. Then if any choose to change their race all the time for min/maxing reasons, well, they'll just generate more profit, supporting the game...
      Lorewise the alchemical option has been mentioned. And whattaya know, it did not reset any of the recipients skills or such (though it did seem to have the possibility for... unexpected results, if the ingredients aren't quite right)

      Gender change?
      Again, I see no reason to do it for any of mine, since I did make them with a bit of forethought, but... what would I care if someone else did? And again, more money in the developers war chest to bring us all new content sooner, so...

      Class change?
      That one sounds rather iffy to implement, with so many skills that need changing... sure, they could merely copy progress over, but... and again I see no real need for it from looking at my toons, and wouldn't unless and until they added a new class. Though if someone really, really wanted it... I wouldn't deny them, as long as they pay a hefty price.

      Alliance change?
      Now that's an interesting one... I would love to have an "loyalty under suspiscion" quest in the game, during which your character can choose to either prove their loyalty to their alliance, or defect to another alliance. Once. And maybe with some drawbacks to make people think twice, like, say, any defectory gaining AP at half rate in their new alliance because noone really trusts a traitor...

    • Prizax
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      Don't worry they will add them but the problem is when ;)
    • Stamden
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      Aldruin wrote: »
      newtinmpls wrote: »
      I'd posted a NO in response to the idea of race/name change.
      Fair enough if you can fathom the will power to level to v14 again, or have the time and no social/work life to to so.

      I suspect it's like jazz ... if you don't get it, then no explanation is needed. If you don't, then no explanation will suffice.

      But for the sake of clarity:

      1-I haven't gotten to v1 yet, much less 14.

      2-name change will open the door to trolls getting unwarranted "second chances" (well considering how careful/slow any actions are taken by GMS - which is probably a good thing - more likely 4th/5th chances). If you want a name change because you are wanting to actually play a character that you rolled up as a mule - I have no sympathy for your lack of forethought (and was mecilessly mocking of a friend's after-the-fact dismay at having named a character "Mulesalix the Second").

      3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.

      Which, really I can't (much). I get that I am a poor choice, both skill and apptitude-wise for a PvP game or any kind of war. I would be one of the nameless faceless multitudes who get killed in droves while the few lucky/skilled "heroes" survive. I have no desire to play that out. If there were a way to "serve in wartime" in Cyrodiil in some non-combatant way (rescue operations for persons rendered homeless, or some sort of healer thing) I might be tempted. Or something based on freeing slaves (think Twin Lamps in Morrowind which was WAAY underdeveloped).

      anyway....

      Ridiculous. I don't get why you have to oppose if other players want to maximize their possibility in the game. Racial passive changes have affected some races negatively, such as argonians, and it wasn't their lack of forethought, they all started newbies and they had to perceive the mechanisms of the game in order to be able to maximize their build.
      Most of your arguments are invalid cry-outs, stopping those veterans that are playing the game competitively. The game has changed in every way in one year, many classes had to adopt to magicka-based builds as DDs before stamina based builds were buffed in many patches. Now even class skills have stamina morphs. They opened many possibilities that people want to try out, but they lack behind in many aspects, such as the stamina regeneration for a redguard makes it very easy to maintain stamina, but I challenge you to do the same with a breton.
      You can continue your role-playing in the game, and probably those who take it seriously won't change their races. However in my opinion you are simply inexperienced in the game as you mentioned that you are getting mopped on the floor in cyrodiil, and trying to hold people back who want to improve, by protesting race change. Just don't be that guy.

      The problem with race changes is, everyone that is stamina is just going to chose Imperial, and Magika will go Altmer/Breton.

      The way I see it, if you wanted to min/max your stats end-game, you should have put more thought into what race you chose.
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    • Samadhi
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      dalgrimar wrote: »
      I would pay easy 25euro just for a race change.
      On release i had no clue at all what benefits certain race passives give and i took a really bad race for my class and im sure allot of other people have the same problem.
      ...

      Chose my character races based on lore, character design, and individual backstory.

      Have been completely satisfied with my race decisions since launch.

      Hope that ZOS makes race changes a one-time-per-character item so they are present only for convenience sake for honest mistakes, rather than a way for people to pay for min maxing stats each time they decide to swap builds.
      Edited by Samadhi on April 13, 2015 5:01PM
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    • Emma_Overload
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      newtinmpls wrote: »
      I'd posted a NO in response to the idea of race/name change.
      Fair enough if you can fathom the will power to level to v14 again, or have the time and no social/work life to to so.

      I suspect it's like jazz ... if you don't get it, then no explanation is needed. If you don't, then no explanation will suffice.

      But for the sake of clarity:

      1-I haven't gotten to v1 yet, much less 14.

      2-name change will open the door to trolls getting unwarranted "second chances" (well considering how careful/slow any actions are taken by GMS - which is probably a good thing - more likely 4th/5th chances). If you want a name change because you are wanting to actually play a character that you rolled up as a mule - I have no sympathy for your lack of forethought (and was mecilessly mocking of a friend's after-the-fact dismay at having named a character "Mulesalix the Second").

      3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.

      Which, really I can't (much). I get that I am a poor choice, both skill and apptitude-wise for a PvP game or any kind of war. I would be one of the nameless faceless multitudes who get killed in droves while the few lucky/skilled "heroes" survive. I have no desire to play that out. If there were a way to "serve in wartime" in Cyrodiil in some non-combatant way (rescue operations for persons rendered homeless, or some sort of healer thing) I might be tempted. Or something based on freeing slaves (think Twin Lamps in Morrowind which was WAAY underdeveloped).

      anyway....

      I think it's a bit funny that YOUR appreciation of "lore" depends on the misery of other players who may be trapped in a bad class or race or have a badly chosen name or maybe just a bad hairdo!
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    • Emma_Overload
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      Aldruin wrote: »
      newtinmpls wrote: »
      I'd posted a NO in response to the idea of race/name change.
      Fair enough if you can fathom the will power to level to v14 again, or have the time and no social/work life to to so.

      I suspect it's like jazz ... if you don't get it, then no explanation is needed. If you don't, then no explanation will suffice.

      But for the sake of clarity:

      1-I haven't gotten to v1 yet, much less 14.

      2-name change will open the door to trolls getting unwarranted "second chances" (well considering how careful/slow any actions are taken by GMS - which is probably a good thing - more likely 4th/5th chances). If you want a name change because you are wanting to actually play a character that you rolled up as a mule - I have no sympathy for your lack of forethought (and was mecilessly mocking of a friend's after-the-fact dismay at having named a character "Mulesalix the Second").

      3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.

      Which, really I can't (much). I get that I am a poor choice, both skill and apptitude-wise for a PvP game or any kind of war. I would be one of the nameless faceless multitudes who get killed in droves while the few lucky/skilled "heroes" survive. I have no desire to play that out. If there were a way to "serve in wartime" in Cyrodiil in some non-combatant way (rescue operations for persons rendered homeless, or some sort of healer thing) I might be tempted. Or something based on freeing slaves (think Twin Lamps in Morrowind which was WAAY underdeveloped).

      anyway....

      Ridiculous. I don't get why you have to oppose if other players want to maximize their possibility in the game. Racial passive changes have affected some races negatively, such as argonians, and it wasn't their lack of forethought, they all started newbies and they had to perceive the mechanisms of the game in order to be able to maximize their build.
      Most of your arguments are invalid cry-outs, stopping those veterans that are playing the game competitively. The game has changed in every way in one year, many classes had to adopt to magicka-based builds as DDs before stamina based builds were buffed in many patches. Now even class skills have stamina morphs. They opened many possibilities that people want to try out, but they lack behind in many aspects, such as the stamina regeneration for a redguard makes it very easy to maintain stamina, but I challenge you to do the same with a breton.
      You can continue your role-playing in the game, and probably those who take it seriously won't change their races. However in my opinion you are simply inexperienced in the game as you mentioned that you are getting mopped on the floor in cyrodiil, and trying to hold people back who want to improve, by protesting race change. Just don't be that guy.

      The problem with race changes is, everyone that is stamina is just going to chose Imperial, and Magika will go Altmer/Breton.

      The way I see it, if you wanted to min/max your stats end-game, you should have put more thought into what race you chose.

      Here's the problem, though: ZoS CHANGED the racial stats AFTER we rolled them and spent 100's of hours of our lives leveling them to VR14.

      The only other workable solution would be to make XP account-wide, but of course the goody-goody "purists" wouldn't like that, either!

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      Edited by Emma_Overload on April 13, 2015 5:18PM
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    • Emily
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      I would like a name/race change

      I am not trying to minimize/maximize, I have just outgrown my character as I envisioned her when I made her.
      Edited by Emily on April 13, 2015 5:42PM
    • Vaerth
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      dalgrimar wrote: »
      I would pay easy 25euro just for a race change.
      On release i had no clue at all what benefits certain race passives give and i took a really bad race for my class and im sure allot of other people have the same problem.
      + i dont like the look annymore of my character.
      @ZOS Please add a race change wich include a recustomization aswell!

      +1
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    • Jaxsun
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      Aldruin wrote: »
      newtinmpls wrote: »
      I'd posted a NO in response to the idea of race/name change.
      Fair enough if you can fathom the will power to level to v14 again, or have the time and no social/work life to to so.

      I suspect it's like jazz ... if you don't get it, then no explanation is needed. If you don't, then no explanation will suffice.

      But for the sake of clarity:

      1-I haven't gotten to v1 yet, much less 14.

      2-name change will open the door to trolls getting unwarranted "second chances" (well considering how careful/slow any actions are taken by GMS - which is probably a good thing - more likely 4th/5th chances). If you want a name change because you are wanting to actually play a character that you rolled up as a mule - I have no sympathy for your lack of forethought (and was mecilessly mocking of a friend's after-the-fact dismay at having named a character "Mulesalix the Second").

      3-Race change ... so far that I have seen has been associated with the "I must maximize/optimize my build" "OMG X has nerfed racial passives" "RP'ers are in my way" which has also (in my probably way too limited experience) been associated with rampant PvP including crapping on PvE players. Or to put it another way, if there is that little respect for the immersion/lore of the game 'verse, than I'm going to figure little resepect for other players - and I'm tired of getting mopped in Cyrodiil by crabby trigger-happy folks with infinetly optimized builds. I'm here to play with the world, in the world - and not jsut focus on who/how many I can kill.

      Which, really I can't (much). I get that I am a poor choice, both skill and apptitude-wise for a PvP game or any kind of war. I would be one of the nameless faceless multitudes who get killed in droves while the few lucky/skilled "heroes" survive. I have no desire to play that out. If there were a way to "serve in wartime" in Cyrodiil in some non-combatant way (rescue operations for persons rendered homeless, or some sort of healer thing) I might be tempted. Or something based on freeing slaves (think Twin Lamps in Morrowind which was WAAY underdeveloped).

      anyway....

      Ridiculous. I don't get why you have to oppose if other players want to maximize their possibility in the game. Racial passive changes have affected some races negatively, such as argonians, and it wasn't their lack of forethought, they all started newbies and they had to perceive the mechanisms of the game in order to be able to maximize their build.
      Most of your arguments are invalid cry-outs, stopping those veterans that are playing the game competitively. The game has changed in every way in one year, many classes had to adopt to magicka-based builds as DDs before stamina based builds were buffed in many patches. Now even class skills have stamina morphs. They opened many possibilities that people want to try out, but they lack behind in many aspects, such as the stamina regeneration for a redguard makes it very easy to maintain stamina, but I challenge you to do the same with a breton.
      You can continue your role-playing in the game, and probably those who take it seriously won't change their races. However in my opinion you are simply inexperienced in the game as you mentioned that you are getting mopped on the floor in cyrodiil, and trying to hold people back who want to improve, by protesting race change. Just don't be that guy.

      The problem with race changes is, everyone that is stamina is just going to chose Imperial, and Magika will go Altmer/Breton.

      The way I see it, if you wanted to min/max your stats end-game, you should have put more thought into what race you chose.

      Two problems with this, didn't some of the racial passives change recently? And with 1.6 some abilities that used to be magicka based are now stamina based.
    • Shader_Shibes
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      I just picked a name i always use in games because i didn't think ESO would suck me in as much as it has (totally addicted). Therefore i would love to give him a lore friendly Khajiiti name.

      Not too much to ask for really.
    • eNumbra
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      newtinmpls wrote: »
      After watching the Deltia's Gaming videos where he MOPPS with a lvl 11 character ... if you are blaming your lack of #1 leaderboardness on the racial passives.... well let's just say you can do better than that.

      Well then, optimization being a moot point, there's no longer a reason to block race changes.
      newtinmpls wrote: »

      Because, theoretically (being that this is an adult game) you are an adult and get to take responsibility for your choices. Yes stuff changes - in game - in life - and you learn to deal with it.

      More spefically to this game it's an MMORPG . And lore-specifically, we are in the midst of a dragon break. Things change ... and will change more.
      You must be trolling.

      Not going to reroll a character because Zenimax changed all my morphs from magicka to stamina and beat the crap out of my toon forcing me to either roll stam on a Magicka race or re level less effective magicka skills at V14.

      Your second point, is hilariously irrelevant.
    • Parrotbrain
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      To be honest, on the character creation page there is very little information as to which benefits each race provide. So it should be just fair that they provide an option to change one's race, because after first being able to play through the game on a character one is better able to make an informed decision.

      Perhaps they can add a cooldown of 6 or 12 months to prevent people from misusing this ability. I play a nord, and throughout the entire time I've played this character (which has been since early access) my choice of race has not had a single impact on any quest or npc conversation I've had, which feels weird for an elder scrolls game if one considers that it actually had memorable impact on NPC interactions in Elder Scrolls 3 and 5.
    • tengri
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      Dont feed us that crap "had you chosen your race more carefully...". I did.

      Then Z came along many, many months into the game and changed race passives left and right... this pissed me off a lot. Back when this scenario was not even on the horizon... and in end-game content (and PvP, too) race passives can have a rather significant impact.
      Of course I now want... no... I "need" a race change because I am stuck where I never wanted to be in the first place.
      And frankly when I think about it... the fact that I now need to pay to correct what Z did to my char pisses me off even more.
      Well, at least I can pay... soon. Thanks for that. I guess.


    • SHADOW2KK
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      Name change = Yep hurry up.

      Race change = Would be interesting, so yes.
      Once I was a lamb, playing in a green field. Then the wolves came. Now I am an eagle and I fly in a different universe.

      Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

      Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

      LvL 50 - Dragon Knight EP [PC-EU] = Illuvutar = Ex The Wabbajack = (Stam DK)
      LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
      LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
      LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
      LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
      LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
      LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
      LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
      LvL 50 - Warden DC [PC-EU] = Crimson Blades = (Stamden)

      Guild Master of The Bringers Of The Storm.
      Harrods


      Member Of The Old Guard
      PC Closed Betas 2013

      PC Mastah Race

      Anook Page anook.com/shadow2kk

      Been playing since Beta and Early Access

    • NewBlacksmurf
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      Any service that revolves around character customizations (visually) that cannot be changed in game, SHOULD be on the crown store whether we all want it or not.

      Things that do not hurt , harm or disrupt another players experience in the game should also be in the crown store.
      Any cosmetic changes that are absent in the game....should always be an option.

      Now perhaps a faction change is viewed differently but I still hold the opinion that all cosmetic changes should be OK.
      Faction...is very tricky
      -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
      ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
    • dalgrimar
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      I really hope they wont take a year before adding this change....
    • Iduyenn
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      No to Race change
      Yes to race appearance change!
      Hell yes!
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