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  • corx3
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    Earendal wrote: »
    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    I moved off Chill last night due to the server freezing while Im fighting near black boot because havoc is fighting people at glade.

    Then I go to azuras and see havoc there a bit later.

    Theyre the only group killing the server from anywhere on the map. If youre going to kill over the server with the way you play, stick to one server please so other players can play the game without constant stutter/long-term freezes.

    Funny that our 24 man group is responsible when you're running as a faction zerging keeps. The only time we experienced lag on Chill was when all of AD showed up at Fare and again when they were zerging BRK while we were at Glade. Maybe try taking a little ownership of your contribution to the lag situation and stop pinning it on 24 people doing nothing special.

    And for the record, you will continue to see Havoc wherever the biggest competition is. You can't hide.

    No one wants to hide from you. Most guilds would relish a fight against other organized guilds. Everyone wants to hide from the bajillion EP's with their guild groups from the red council. You don't lag people. Reasonable people know this. A lot of people in the same general vicinity and/or the same server do.
    Edited by corx3 on April 7, 2015 4:01PM
  • Earendal
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    Jauriel wrote: »

    Havoc doesn't want competition IMO. They want to force all the good DC guilds and players (many already have) to quit the game so that between their ep and ad toons they can own every campaign.

    There is so much wrong with this statement I don't even know where to start.

    There are one, maybe two, DC groups worth their salt. Both of which we enjoy fighting. Neither of which we will run from. The rest seem to follow them around or simply roll over when confronted.

    We don't PVP on our AD characters anymore (those of us who came from AD), to suggest otherwise is disingenuous and misleading.

    Obviously we want to "own" whatever campaign we're homed to, which we currently do, but we're perfectly capable and willing to fight whomever for it.

    I don't know why I let myself get baited in to conversing with you, it is the definition of pointless. Try to keep your tin-foiled head from thinking you know what Havoc wants.
    Earendal - AD Templar
    Earendal Ebonheart - EP Templar
    Earendal Spellstorm - EP Sorcerer

    Haxus and Havoc
  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Jauriel wrote: »

    Havoc doesn't want competition IMO. They want to force all the good DC guilds and players (many already have) to quit the game so that between their ep and ad toons they can own every campaign.

    There is so much wrong with this statement I don't even know where to start.

    There are one, maybe two, DC groups worth their salt. Both of which we enjoy fighting. Neither of which we will run from. The rest seem to follow them around or simply roll over when confronted.

    We don't PVP on our AD characters anymore (those of us who came from AD), to suggest otherwise is disingenuous and misleading.

    Obviously we want to "own" whatever campaign we're homed to, which we currently do, but we're perfectly capable and willing to fight whomever for it.

    I don't know why I let myself get baited in to conversing with you, it is the definition of pointless. Try to keep your tin-foiled head from thinking you know what Havoc wants.

    Ouch
    "According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk
  • Huckdabuck
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    Jauriel wrote: »
    Earendal wrote: »
    Thorn is the new PvErichor buff campaign. Don't mess with it.

    Also, Havoc has been vacationing on a couple different campaigns surveying the competition. ;)

    Havoc doesn't want competition IMO. They want to force all the good DC guilds and players (many already have) to quit the game so that between their ep and ad toons they can own every campaign.

    Do they play AD toons still?

    Maybe they will answer your question and you can either believe them or not.....I'd just caution on listening to anyone who claims to know either way and will spout off about hearing it from some EP/AD "source".
    Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
    Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
    Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
    It's a very grey area.
  • Dreyloch
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    WRX wrote: »
    Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

    No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

    Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

    People are fooling themselves if they don't think the EP from TB won't start making guest appearances elsewhere. There's only so much gate camping noob stomping that one can do before boredom sets in.

    They can guest if they want, I just don't want them homed on ANY server I'm on. I'm sure one of them will whip out the E-peen and come here and say that I'm not worth their time. That's fine by me. They can stay away then. We go back a long way Agrippa, had many good battles. That's how it always should be. But not the way Havoc plays. It's not talent the way things happen when they're around. It's bad for PvP and the game.
    "The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"
  • Dreyloch
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    Jauriel wrote: »
    Earendal wrote: »
    Thorn is the new PvErichor buff campaign. Don't mess with it.

    Also, Havoc has been vacationing on a couple different campaigns surveying the competition. ;)

    Havoc doesn't want competition IMO. They want to force all the good DC guilds and players (many already have) to quit the game so that between their ep and ad toons they can own every campaign.

    Do they play AD toons still?

    Look at Earendal's sig. You tell us =)
    "The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"
  • xDOVAHKIINx
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    Dreyloch wrote: »
    WRX wrote: »
    Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

    No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

    Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

    People are fooling themselves if they don't think the EP from TB won't start making guest appearances elsewhere. There's only so much gate camping noob stomping that one can do before boredom sets in.

    They can guest if they want, I just don't want them homed on ANY server I'm on. I'm sure one of them will whip out the E-peen and come here and say that I'm not worth their time. That's fine by me. They can stay away then. We go back a long way Agrippa, had many good battles. That's how it always should be. But not the way Havoc plays. It's not talent the way things happen when they're around. It's bad for PvP and the game.

    It lags when they are around? sure. But so it does with any other organized guild comes along, and especially if that enemy group of players is contested with another group of players. Lag is present in this game no matter which way you slice it, I am more of the opinion that we should give credit where it is due. That being said Agrippa and Havoc both have made incredible plays with and without lag. So pinning lag (or the game as a whole) on one group of players is very naive.
    "According to most of the people on these forums, every organized 16 man guild group is a lagblobbing pulsespamming zerg."-Fmonk
  • Bahalul
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    Weird... I was in AS blackboot last night and didn't lag even with Havoc around.

    Illoominatee??
  • corx3
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    I'm going to start soloing. This game can't even handle one guild versus one guild without lag. It's bloody silly. WTB non-rookie studio to produce clean code, PST.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    corx3 wrote: »
    I'm going to start soloing. This game can't even handle one guild versus one guild without lag. It's bloody silly. WTB non-rookie studio to produce clean code, PST.

    But don't you enjoy your beautiful lighting? The way the meteor spam reflects off those wedding dresses?
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • Earendal
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    corx3 wrote: »
    No one wants to hide from you. Most guilds would relish a fight against other organized guilds. Everyone wants to hide from the bajillion EP's with their guild groups from the red council. You don't lag people. Reasonable people know this. A lot of people in the same general vicinity and/or the same server do.

    Fair enough. Just know that we feel the same. I'd much rather defend a keep against two organized guild groups than an entire faction. It's more fun for us and requires more strategy to succeed. If people could see how much time we spend riding around defending keeps alone in addition to leaving fights to avoid playing with the EP zerg, maybe we wouldn't get as much flak. Believe me, whenever we're at a keep we are asking "can the PUGs hold this? Do we need to be here?" For the record, I'm not an official spokesperson for Havoc, and when I say "we" I'm just sharing my experience as a long time member.
    Earendal - AD Templar
    Earendal Ebonheart - EP Templar
    Earendal Spellstorm - EP Sorcerer

    Haxus and Havoc
  • FENGRUSH
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    corx3 wrote: »
    I'm going to start soloing. This game can't even handle one guild versus one guild without lag. It's bloody silly. WTB non-rookie studio to produce clean code, PST.

    But don't you enjoy your beautiful lighting? The way the meteor spam reflects off those wedding dresses?

    In case anyone forgets when ZOS traded graphics for performance.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irbdQQjVX3o&feature=player_embedded
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    corx3 wrote: »
    I'm going to start soloing. This game can't even handle one guild versus one guild without lag. It's bloody silly. WTB non-rookie studio to produce clean code, PST.

    But don't you enjoy your beautiful lighting? The way the meteor spam reflects off those wedding dresses?

    In case anyone forgets when ZOS traded graphics for performance.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irbdQQjVX3o&feature=player_embedded

    I remember raging on Dawnbreaker as NOTHING WORKED due to being stuck at 1fps and having to constantly restart client.
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • corx3
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    From personal experience, pug groups tend to magically appear where guild groups are trying to farm or get good fights. I mentioned on TS multiple times in the past few days "OMG let's ditch this zerg." But the zerg finds us. There is no escape.
  • Bahalul
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    Ooooh I remember that lighting patch and the week-long (or was it 2 weeks?) lag. I think AD held emperorship on wabba throughout the whole period, holing up inside alessia (losing all other keeps and scrolls in the process).

    Fun times.
  • Jauriel
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Jauriel wrote: »

    Havoc doesn't want competition IMO. They want to force all the good DC guilds and players (many already have) to quit the game so that between their ep and ad toons they can own every campaign.

    There is so much wrong with this statement I don't even know where to start.

    There are one, maybe two, DC groups worth their salt. Both of which we enjoy fighting. Neither of which we will run from. The rest seem to follow them around or simply roll over when confronted.

    We don't PVP on our AD characters anymore (those of us who came from AD), to suggest otherwise is disingenuous and misleading.

    Obviously we want to "own" whatever campaign we're homed to, which we currently do, but we're perfectly capable and willing to fight whomever for it.

    I don't know why I let myself get baited in to conversing with you, it is the definition of pointless. Try to keep your tin-foiled head from thinking you know what Havoc wants.

    Allow me to share with you what someone from your own faction sent to me recently:

    "Name redacted April 4
    Ereandal is an (redacted)..one of the DiE peeps that went to EP."

    Have a great day. I am done arguing with you. :)
  • corx3
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    corx3 wrote: »
    I'm going to start soloing. This game can't even handle one guild versus one guild without lag. It's bloody silly. WTB non-rookie studio to produce clean code, PST.

    But don't you enjoy your beautiful lighting? The way the meteor spam reflects off those wedding dresses?

    You still owe me a naked sword fight at Bruma. Left me hanging.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    corx3 wrote: »
    corx3 wrote: »
    I'm going to start soloing. This game can't even handle one guild versus one guild without lag. It's bloody silly. WTB non-rookie studio to produce clean code, PST.

    But don't you enjoy your beautiful lighting? The way the meteor spam reflects off those wedding dresses?

    You still owe me a naked sword fight at Bruma. Left me hanging.

    I was too busy trying on costumes from the crown store.
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • corx3
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    corx3 wrote: »
    corx3 wrote: »
    I'm going to start soloing. This game can't even handle one guild versus one guild without lag. It's bloody silly. WTB non-rookie studio to produce clean code, PST.

    But don't you enjoy your beautiful lighting? The way the meteor spam reflects off those wedding dresses?

    You still owe me a naked sword fight at Bruma. Left me hanging.

    I was too busy trying on costumes from the crown store.

    Sword fight in wedding dresses? They are releasing a maid outfit too ... this might get steamy.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    corx3 wrote: »
    corx3 wrote: »
    corx3 wrote: »
    I'm going to start soloing. This game can't even handle one guild versus one guild without lag. It's bloody silly. WTB non-rookie studio to produce clean code, PST.

    But don't you enjoy your beautiful lighting? The way the meteor spam reflects off those wedding dresses?

    You still owe me a naked sword fight at Bruma. Left me hanging.

    I was too busy trying on costumes from the crown store.

    Sword fight in wedding dresses? They are releasing a maid outfit too ... this might get steamy.

    What do you mean "might" and "get"? ;)
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    WRX wrote: »
    Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

    No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

    Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

    LOL, do you seriously think that players who basically just PVP and do nothing else are going to wait for you on an empty server? I wouldn't even call that naive.
    “Whatever.”
    -Unknown American
  • Earendal
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    Jauriel wrote: »
    Allow me to share with you what someone from your own faction sent to me recently:

    "Name redacted April 4
    Ereandal is an (redacted)..one of the DiE peeps that went to EP."

    Have a great day. I am done arguing with you. :)

    ...And? I PvE on my AD as time allows, I don't PvP for AD (as I said in my previous post). There is absolutely nothing illegitimate, exploitative, or misleading about that. Your reading comprehension, or lack thereof, continues to astound me. When we re-rolled EP, it was the faction that was struggling the most. We considered DC, but at the time they had NM and another AD guild planning on re-rolling there, so we decided not to. Your effort to make Havoc out as some sort of bad guys/girls is failing miserably. I am, however, flattered by what appears to be your obsession with me. :*
    Edited by Earendal on April 7, 2015 4:51PM
    Earendal - AD Templar
    Earendal Ebonheart - EP Templar
    Earendal Spellstorm - EP Sorcerer

    Haxus and Havoc
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Jauriel wrote: »


    I don't know why I let myself get baited in to conversing with you, it is the definition of pointless. Try to keep your tin-foiled head from thinking you know what Havoc wants.

    Seriously, it's like watching someone have a conversation with a broken clock that keeps ticking at the same minute all day long. There is some masochism involved in conversing with boobs.
    “Whatever.”
    -Unknown American
  • Jauriel
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    Dreyloch wrote: »
    WRX wrote: »
    Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

    No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

    Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

    LOL, do you seriously think that players who basically just PVP and do nothing else are going to wait for you on an empty server? I wouldn't even call that naive.

    Ep has been poplocked for a week now on TB.
  • Jauriel
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    Earendal wrote: »
    Jauriel wrote: »
    Allow me to share with you what someone from your own faction sent to me recently:

    "Name redacted April 4
    Ereandal is an (redacted)..one of the DiE peeps that went to EP."

    Have a great day. I am done arguing with you. :)

    ...And? I PvE on my AD as time allows, I don't PvP for AD (as I said in my previous post). There is absolutely nothing illegitimate, exploitative, or misleading about that. Your reading comprehension, or lack thereof, continues to astound me. When we re-rolled EP, it was the faction that was struggling the most. We considered DC, but at the time they had NM and another AD guild planning on re-rolling there, so we decided not to. Your effort to make Havoc out as some sort of bad guys/girls is failing miserably. I am, however, flattered by what appears to be your obsession with me. :*

    MY obsession with YOU? You run around this forum like my adoring fan trying to Aggro me on every comment I make.

    Havoc ruined their own rep and no assistance from me was required.
  • LonePirate
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    Jauriel wrote: »
    Dreyloch wrote: »
    WRX wrote: »
    Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

    No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

    Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

    LOL, do you seriously think that players who basically just PVP and do nothing else are going to wait for you on an empty server? I wouldn't even call that naive.

    Ep has been poplocked for a week now on TB.

    EP has been pop locked on Thorn for months. Nowadays it happens to coincide with the fact that EP NA has not had a buff server for a few months and we now have all of this new XP in Cyrodiil for acquiring CPs. I hope you can connect the dots here.
  • Agrippa_Invisus
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    LonePirate wrote: »
    Jauriel wrote: »
    Dreyloch wrote: »
    WRX wrote: »
    Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

    No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

    Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

    LOL, do you seriously think that players who basically just PVP and do nothing else are going to wait for you on an empty server? I wouldn't even call that naive.

    Ep has been poplocked for a week now on TB.

    EP has been pop locked on Thorn for months. Nowadays it happens to coincide with the fact that EP NA has not had a buff server for a few months and we now have all of this new XP in Cyrodiil for acquiring CPs. I hope you can connect the dots here.

    The concept of Thornblade being a 'buff server'...

    ... blecch.

    I already loathed the concept but that's just.... it's Thornblade.
    Agrippa Invisus / Indominus / Inprimis / Inviolatus
    DragonKnight / Templar / Warden / Sorcerer - Vagabond
    Once a General, now a Citizen
    Former Emperor of Bloodthorn and Vivec
    For Sweetrolls! FOR FIMIAN!
  • WraithAzraiel
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    Too many EP, time to take a page out of the books of colonists and settlers everywhere - if an animal grows too wild and too numerous, hunt them to extinction.
    Shendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade

    Captain of the Black Howling

    "There's no such thing as overkill..."

    "No problem on the face of the Earth exists what can't be fixed with the proper application of enough duct tape and 550 cord."

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  • Jauriel
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    Or we can do like the British tried to do..win their hearts and minds. Oh wait nevermind.
  • AhPook_Is_Here
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    Too many EP, time to take a page out of the books of colonists and settlers everywhere - if an animal grows too wild and too numerous, hunt them to extinction.

    or even if it isn't and it is just fun to shoot.
    “Whatever.”
    -Unknown American
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