EP almost locked in every campaign (NA)

IxSTALKERxI · April 2015

Haderus is the only campaign EP aren't maxed on population. Only a matter of time before the AD who hide on haderus will be forced to join the fight.

WRX · April 2015

Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

IxSTALKERxI · April 2015

WRX wrote: »

Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

I think I just faced havok on azura's.

Zyle · April 2015

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

I think I just faced havok on azura's.

Confirmed.

saintmurray · April 2015

If you add a number to each bar (4 being locked) you finish with a total score of:
EP 4+4+4+4+2=18
DC 4+4+4+3+1=16
AD 4+4+3+3+3=17

Quite close in reality

IxSTALKERxI · April 2015

saintmurray wrote: »

If you add a number to each bar (4 being locked) you finish with a total score of:
EP 4+4+4+4+2=18
DC 4+4+4+3+1=16
AD 4+4+3+3+3=17

Quite close in reality

'4' of those AD are on haderus running dolmens, taking empty keeps or whatever it is they do over there.

saintmurray · April 2015

I meant total pvpers. Not quality :P

asneakybanana · April 2015

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Haderus is the only campaign EP aren't maxed on population. Only a matter of time before the AD who hide on haderus will be forced to join the fight.

Okay and? There have been times since patch where AD had all 5 campaigns locked. So I wouldnt worry about it too much since on the weekends the AD casuals come out in force.

RedTalon · April 2015

Everyone wants to be devokids really shouldn't surprise anyone, we will see if mine and few other predictions comes ture about DC being the first of the three factions to die out fully..it happens a lot in three way wars now. a-days

Oughash · April 2015

Honestly, the only thing I think when I see this is: "great that populations are back up!" There was a time during December through February that DC could barely lock one campaign at prime time.

Would the devs be willing to post some numbers on the pop changes since 1.6?

Jauriel · April 2015

When I see this I think those little lock icons are utterly pointless. Anywhere it shows a poplock, as DC I can enter immediately with no queue. Ep claims they have actual waits-hours in some cases.

IxSTALKERxI · April 2015

Ishammael wrote: »

Honestly, the only thing I think when I see this is: "great that populations are back up!" There was a time during December through February that DC could barely lock one campaign at prime time.

Would the devs be willing to post some numbers on the pop changes since 1.6?

Yeah I agree. I'm really happy that the populations have increased. I just hope the population can balance itself out or people are going to rage quit and we'll be back in the same position that we were in a few months ago. So far so good though.

LonePirate · April 2015

EP is simply spreading out because players grew tired of being stuck in a queue of 200+ each night on Thornblade. I would not be surprised if all five campaigns start locking for EP during prime time at some point in the next couple of weeks.

Jauriel · April 2015

LoL. Ep is spreading out because they don't have a choice. The ap welfare line in TB is long and the entitlements are no longer sustainable there anymore.

Sypher · April 2015

saintmurray wrote: »

If you add a number to each bar (4 being locked) you finish with a total score of:
EP 4+4+4+4+2=18
DC 4+4+4+3+1=16
AD 4+4+3+3+3=17

Quite close in reality

The difference between a campaign that is locked with a que and one that is 3 bars can be VERY different in my opinion.

frozywozy · April 2015

LonePirate wrote: »

EP is simply spreading out because players grew tired of being stuck in a queue of 200+ each night on Thornblade. I would not be surprised if all five campaigns start locking for EP during prime time at some point in the next couple of weeks.

I surely hope so. It will increase performances greatly and will give more chances to other factions to win a campaign since all the major EP guilds are now spreading out all across the campaigns.

I figured out yesterday approximately what a campaign can support in matter of players, groups and battles going on at the same time. Yesterday we had 2 huge battles going on between 4 different groups. Two groups of EP, one group of AD and one group of DC. One battle was happening at Brk while the other one was happening at Glademist. During that fight, Chillrend looked like Thornblade (lagwise). Exactly the same. So I think that one campaign can stand only 2 factions fighting at the same place at the same time, otherwise it gets messy.

My advice would be : if you are looking for another campaign to move your regular 16+ organized guild members, try to find a campaign with a maximum of 5 organized guilds already established there.

A campaign cannot support more than 6 guilds of 16+ active members. Two per faction.

At the moment, if you get two sets of two guilds fighting each other with the support of 10-15 other players at different locations on the map, performances drop drastically.

technohic · April 2015

WRX wrote: »

Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

/sigh

Dreyloch · April 2015

WRX wrote: »

Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

sirston · April 2015

Sypher wrote: »

saintmurray wrote: »

If you add a number to each bar (4 being locked) you finish with a total score of:
EP 4+4+4+4+2=18
DC 4+4+4+3+1=16
AD 4+4+3+3+3=17

Quite close in reality

The difference between a campaign that is locked with a que and one that is 3 bars can be VERY different in my opinion.

to be honest You can't really tell since in a pop-lock situation sometimes you can still get in the campaign instantly and other times you wait for 20-100 people. so they should redo the poplock idea that just my opinion.

Sypher · April 2015

sirston wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

saintmurray wrote: »

If you add a number to each bar (4 being locked) you finish with a total score of:
EP 4+4+4+4+2=18
DC 4+4+4+3+1=16
AD 4+4+3+3+3=17

Quite close in reality

The difference between a campaign that is locked with a que and one that is 3 bars can be VERY different in my opinion.

to be honest You can't really tell since in a pop-lock situation sometimes you can still get in the campaign instantly and other times you wait for 20-100 people. so they should redo the poplock idea that just my opinion.

They should just change the vague bars into percentage values..

Agrippa_Invisus · April 2015

Dreyloch wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

People are fooling themselves if they don't think the EP from TB won't start making guest appearances elsewhere. There's only so much gate camping noob stomping that one can do before boredom sets in.

Earendal · April 2015

Thorn is the new PvErichor buff campaign. Don't mess with it.

Also, Havoc has been vacationing on a couple different campaigns surveying the competition.

Oktaine · April 2015

I think a pop lock isn't really a lock. It's more of slow down of letting people into the campaign before an actual lock hits down the line somewhere.

FENGRUSH · April 2015

I moved off Chill last night due to the server freezing while Im fighting near black boot because havoc is fighting people at glade.

Then I go to azuras and see havoc there a bit later.

Theyre the only group killing the server from anywhere on the map. If youre going to kill over the server with the way you play, stick to one server please so other players can play the game without constant stutter/long-term freezes.

Earendal · April 2015

FENGRUSH wrote: »

I moved off Chill last night due to the server freezing while Im fighting near black boot because havoc is fighting people at glade.

Then I go to azuras and see havoc there a bit later.

Theyre the only group killing the server from anywhere on the map. If youre going to kill over the server with the way you play, stick to one server please so other players can play the game without constant stutter/long-term freezes.

Funny that our 24 man group is responsible when you're running as a faction zerging keeps. The only time we experienced lag on Chill was when all of AD showed up at Fare and again when they were zerging BRK while we were at Glade. Maybe try taking a little ownership of your contribution to the lag situation and stop pinning it on 24 people doing nothing special.

And for the record, you will continue to see Havoc wherever the biggest competition is. You can't hide.

GorraShatan · April 2015

If you get sick of being stuck in a queue, roll a DC.

FENGRUSH · April 2015

Earendal wrote: »

FENGRUSH wrote: »

I moved off Chill last night due to the server freezing while Im fighting near black boot because havoc is fighting people at glade.

Then I go to azuras and see havoc there a bit later.

Theyre the only group killing the server from anywhere on the map. If youre going to kill over the server with the way you play, stick to one server please so other players can play the game without constant stutter/long-term freezes.

Funny that our 24 man group is responsible when you're running as a faction zerging keeps. The only time we experienced lag on Chill was when all of AD showed up at Fare and again when they were zerging BRK while we were at Glade. Maybe try taking a little ownership of your contribution to the lag situation and stop pinning it on 24 people doing nothing special.

FENGRUSH is not lagging the server.

The server also did not lag last night until havoc was trying to farm at keeps. Chill also doesnt normally lag - and never across the zone for 10mins+ at a time.

Thank you for deflecting that the cause of lag is FENGRUSH and the AD faction that hes not part of.

Jauriel · April 2015

Agrippa_Invisus wrote: »

Dreyloch wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Seems to me the obvious choice is the thorn EP guild's should check out haderus. Aside from the ones who already moved to chillrend.

No, Actually DC that have moved there do NOT want EP from TB. They can rot there wondering why there's nothing to do. They brought it upon themselves. Yeah they won, but it's an understatement to say it was a very shady victory.

Plus we got enough on our hands being under-manned to deal with AD as it is.

People are fooling themselves if they don't think the EP from TB won't start making guest appearances elsewhere. There's only so much gate camping noob stomping that one can do before boredom sets in.

We know they will eventually leave TB. The hope is if WE spread out they won't be able to terrorize a campaign with all the organized DC guilds in it. We can all take turns then dealing with the misery they bring.

Jauriel · April 2015

Earendal wrote: »

Thorn is the new PvErichor buff campaign. Don't mess with it.

Also, Havoc has been vacationing on a couple different campaigns surveying the competition.

Havoc doesn't want competition IMO. They want to force all the good DC guilds and players (many already have) to quit the game so that between their ep and ad toons they can own every campaign.

xDOVAHKIINx · April 2015

Jauriel wrote: »

Earendal wrote: »

Thorn is the new PvErichor buff campaign. Don't mess with it.

Also, Havoc has been vacationing on a couple different campaigns surveying the competition.

Havoc doesn't want competition IMO. They want to force all the good DC guilds and players (many already have) to quit the game so that between their ep and ad toons they can own every campaign.

Do they play AD toons still?

Jauriel · April 2015

Yep. On TB many many nights they would hop on ad toons and Aggro blue in the south and rally ad against blue (even though they were well in the lead and DC and ad trailed them). The remaining ad pugs and pug guilds fell for this tactic every time and would beat their heads against Ash for hours and hours while ep then happily hit bleakers and ales while uncontested in the south.