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Radiant Destruction(PVE)

timidobserver
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Did you guys change something about Radiant Destruction/Radiant Oppression this week? My dps with Radiant Destruction has decreased as of this week. It doesn't seem to be doing anywhere near the amount of DPS it should be doing anymore.

Note: I am aware of the nerf that occurred due to a bug. I am not talking about that. I am noticing a dps decrease just this week.

I do have an unlisted youtube video of The Mage from AA that I can provide to ZOS if it would be of any help.
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  • timidobserver
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    With more testing, as far as I can tell, sometimes a ticks of radiant oppression will ignore the execute bonus.
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  • bellanca6561n
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    With more testing, as far as I can tell, sometimes a ticks of radiant oppression will ignore the execute bonus.

    I'd like an answer to this too. I run a near pure healer and swap to a bar that has this ability only when a boss is in execute range and members of my party are not in distress. I'd like some assurance that it's working as described.

  • timidobserver
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  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hey there @timidobserver,

    Do you happen to remember exactly when you noticed the change? From what we see, there haven't been any changes to Radiant Destruction, but we'll be happy to take a closer look!
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    ZOS_GaryA wrote: »
    Hey there @timidobserver,

    Do you happen to remember exactly when you noticed the change? From what we see, there haven't been any changes to Radiant Destruction, but we'll be happy to take a closer look!

    I noticed it yesterday. A few tests revealed that ticks of the ability sometimes did not apply the low health damage bonus at all.
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  • timidobserver
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    ZOS_GaryA wrote: »
    Hey there @timidobserver,

    Do you happen to remember exactly when you noticed the change? From what we see, there haven't been any changes to Radiant Destruction, but we'll be happy to take a closer look!

    I noticed it yesterday. A few tests revealed that ticks of the ability sometimes did not apply the low health damage bonus at all.

    I"ve noticed that the correct damage tends drop off at the 0-5% phase.
    Edited by timidobserver on March 29, 2015 8:50PM
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  • timidobserver
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    @ZOS_GaryA


    Okay, I have an example for you. Check out this video. Make sure you turn up the quality using the little gear button so you can see the numbers. I have combat analytics and combat cloud going. The damage is pretty inconsistent. Sometimes it is 11k and sometimes it is 1200.

    In particular, watch the damage once the mage is below at 5%. It completely drops off like im not executing anymore. Even the crits are tiny. I cut out the rest of the fight just so you can see the execute phase, but I can post the whole video if you need it.

    https://youtu.be/PNfrGU1U1w0

    Here is another one where I just let it tick once per cast on a Mammoth until it dies. The very first tick sometimes doesn't get the execute bonus.

    https://youtu.be/9OU7IGa6_gM
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  • timidobserver
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    Any follow up on this.

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  • Aeowyn
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    Hi @ZOS_GaryA

    Checking in on this issue as well; I've noticed significant variation when using this ability as well, particularly on longer boss fights where there is a longer execute phase. These videos do a great job of showing the variation. Please have the team look into what is going on
  • ZOS_GaryA
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    Hi @timidobserver,

    There's a fix going in today's patch for Radiant Oppression that may explain this. There was also an issue with Radiant Destruction where the last tick of the ability wasn't receiving the damage bonus, which has also been fixed.

    Just to clarify, are you using the base Radiant Destruction, or one of the morphs? If it's morphed, can you let us know which morph you're using?

    Thanks so much for the videos and your patience!

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  • timidobserver
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    ZOS_GaryA wrote: »
    Hi @timidobserver,

    There's a fix going in today's patch for Radiant Oppression that may explain this. There was also an issue with Radiant Destruction where the last tick of the ability wasn't receiving the damage bonus, which has also been fixed.

    Just to clarify, are you using the base Radiant Destruction, or one of the morphs? If it's morphed, can you let us know which morph you're using?

    Thanks so much for the videos and your patience!

    I am using Radiant Oppression. I didn't test it with the base ability or the other morph, but in hindsight I should have.

    I just read the patch notes, and they say that the ability was just adjusted to have the damage correctly decrease as your magicka goes down.
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  • timidobserver
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    I have gotten the chance to test this. It is improved now, however it still isn't completely fixed.

    The issue with Radiant Oppression randomly not getting the execute bonus throughout the cast appears to fixed or at least I haven't noticed it recently, but the very first tick is still never getting the execute bonus. I will make and post a video demonstrating it and post it for you.

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  • Mantic0r3
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    besides this bug which should be fixed, congratz on making the skill useless again! I mean it survived almost a month thats pretty good for a temp skill.
  • timidobserver
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    @ZOS_GaryA

    https://youtu.be/7MAmmxkyhms

    I have a new video for you. I finally got to test the changes from the patch Monday, and the problems is unchanged.

    I cut this one so that it starts a few percent before I start executing. Put the quality up to 1080p so you can see the numbers. This will allow you to see my dps decrease by about 1kish when I start executing. You can also look at the log or the combat cloud and see numerous ticks of the execute not getting the execute bonus. Around 13% it almost completely starts to ignore the execute bonus.

    Recap. Things to note in this video:
    1. The execute is not even worth using on a longer fight. I am getting more dps without even using it. You can see my dps go down 1kish due to using it.
    2. The execute actually does more damage when I start using it around 30% boss health than it does below 15%.
    3. From 13% boss health to 0%, exactly one tick gets the execute bonus.

    I will keep making videos for you. It's probably easier to figure out what is going on if you can see it. If you have anything specific you want me to test or try just let me know.
    Edited by timidobserver on April 10, 2015 4:20AM
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  • Cinbri
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    Thx Lorkhan, i thought it is only bugged for me.
  • timidobserver
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    @ZOS_GaryA

    Any follow up on this issue? Is the problem just on my end, or are you able to confirm that there is an issue with the skill still?
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  • timidobserver
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    @ZOS_GaryA

    I think I inadvertently figured out what may be causing this. My guild decided to do an all Templar Sanctum Ophidia today. My radiant oppression was completely useless for the whole run. This leads me to believe that, somehow, multiple Templar using radiant destruction may cause an issue with the execute bonus. Is there any way you can have this possibility looked into?
    Edited by timidobserver on June 4, 2015 11:41PM
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