Wrecking Blow.

IxSTALKERxI · April 2015

Wrecking Blow does more damage then killer's blade, a stamina based nightblade execute. Why even give us 5 ability slots? We only need 1.

Tintinabula · April 2015

the wind up for wrecking blow is incredibly long. Ive seen targets simply press D...or A...and my wind up stopped.Simple as that.

Galalin · April 2015

Huntler wrote: »

Half the population is running wrecking blow spam 2hander because its the skillful build right now :eyeroll:

This is like saying... all sorcs do is spam shield... all templars do is spam jesus beam... all bow uses do is spam snipe.... wait a min... they do... you see where im going with this?

ZoS has turned this game into a spamfest.. atleast in 1.5 if you spammed you were outplayed and killed because TTK was decent... now everyone. .. yes EVERYONE is forced to spam something to either survive or kill before being killed. WB is no exception to the rule but at the same time its no dam different then any other spammed skill

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Maulkin · April 2015

For me as a Sorc it's not much of an issuecause I use Bolt Escape to reposition myself and kite.

For the people like @Yuke who see a problem, what is it? Is it the CC or damage?

Xsorus · April 2015

Unless you are a night blade.. If you are using two hander.. Wrecking blow will be your main attack. It's the same reason you see dks with destruction staff using crushing shock. Because it's the only option.

So whining about spamming the skill is silly, same with crying two handed users are using it

If you are going to whine, whine about its effectiveness.. It's a melee range crystal frag

frozywozy · April 2015

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Unless you are a night blade.. If you are using two hander.. Wrecking blow will be your main attack. It's the same reason you see dks with destruction staff using crushing shock. Because it's the only option.

So whining about spamming the skill is silly, same with crying two handed users are using it

If you are going to whine, whine about its effectiveness.. It's a melee range crystal frag

now I only wish Crushing Shock would deal 12k damage, or even 6k?

Xsorus · April 2015

frozywozy wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Unless you are a night blade.. If you are using two hander.. Wrecking blow will be your main attack. It's the same reason you see dks with destruction staff using crushing shock. Because it's the only option.

So whining about spamming the skill is silly, same with crying two handed users are using it

If you are going to whine, whine about its effectiveness.. It's a melee range crystal frag

now I only wish Crushing Shock would deal 12k damage, or even 6k?

Crushing shock can easily deal 6k when it crits, it's also ranged and instant cast so it can do fairly decent damage

hamon · April 2015

ye nerf wrecking blow , then no sorc will ever die again.. thats what we want eh/

Rust_in_Peace · April 2015

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Unless you are a night blade.. If you are using two hander.. Wrecking blow will be your main attack. It's the same reason you see dks with destruction staff using crushing shock. Because it's the only option.

So whining about spamming the skill is silly, same with crying two handed users are using it

If you are going to whine, whine about its effectiveness.. It's a melee range crystal frag

As a Nb I kinda prefer WB to Surprise Attack. SA with light attack weaves gets mitigated easily and doesn't CC. WB damage is all upfront and stuns.

TheBucket · April 2015

Cody wrote: »

just move 5 feet to the left or right.

Doesnt it have 8 meter range?

TheBucket · April 2015

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Unless you are a night blade.. If you are using two hander.. Wrecking blow will be your main attack. It's the same reason you see dks with destruction staff using crushing shock. Because it's the only option.

So whining about spamming the skill is silly, same with crying two handed users are using it

If you are going to whine, whine about its effectiveness.. It's a melee range crystal frag

As a Nb I kinda prefer WB to Surprise Attack. SA with light attack weaves gets mitigated easily and doesn't CC. WB damage is all upfront and stuns.

To each his own but SA is superior to WB with nightblades. You can cast two SA in before 1 WB for more damage and it goes through dodge roll.

My stamina build had me hitting for 12k a pop on my SA

Xsorus · April 2015

TheBucket wrote: »

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Unless you are a night blade.. If you are using two hander.. Wrecking blow will be your main attack. It's the same reason you see dks with destruction staff using crushing shock. Because it's the only option.

So whining about spamming the skill is silly, same with crying two handed users are using it

If you are going to whine, whine about its effectiveness.. It's a melee range crystal frag

As a Nb I kinda prefer WB to Surprise Attack. SA with light attack weaves gets mitigated easily and doesn't CC. WB damage is all upfront and stuns.

To each his own but SA is superior to WB with nightblades. You can cast two SA in before 1 WB for more damage and it goes through dodge roll.

My stamina build had me hitting for 12k a pop on my SA

Yea I wish my dk had a flame whip morph that was similar in damage and stam based, would use over wb in a heart beat

Rust_in_Peace · April 2015

TheBucket wrote: »

Rust_in_Peace wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Unless you are a night blade.. If you are using two hander.. Wrecking blow will be your main attack. It's the same reason you see dks with destruction staff using crushing shock. Because it's the only option.

So whining about spamming the skill is silly, same with crying two handed users are using it

If you are going to whine, whine about its effectiveness.. It's a melee range crystal frag

As a Nb I kinda prefer WB to Surprise Attack. SA with light attack weaves gets mitigated easily and doesn't CC. WB damage is all upfront and stuns.

To each his own but SA is superior to WB with nightblades. You can cast two SA in before 1 WB for more damage and it goes through dodge roll.

My stamina build had me hitting for 12k a pop on my SA

12k for a single Surprise Attack? Tell me your secrets...

bg22 · April 2015

Yuke wrote: »

people seriously wanna do a l2p issue out of the most cheesiest skill in teso history? i loled. like seriously.

You must be a sorc that thinks sorcs aren't OP? lmao

bg22 · April 2015

So yeah... The one good 2H ability is an issue? It requires melee distance and has to be aimed during the entire cast...

But, things like frags are perfectly ok I suppose? Hits just as hard, but with an insane casting distance AND a instant proc.

lol Go home...

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2015

IxSTALKERxI wrote: »

Wrecking Blow does more damage then killer's blade, a stamina based nightblade execute. Why even give us 5 ability slots? We only need 1.

Killer's blade is not a good power it's completely dumb it's a stamina morph that scales off stamina pool AND weapon damage yet does MAGIC ASS DAMAGE

so your champion point to boost Physical damage (ignore X percent of armor with physical attacks or increase damage with physical attacks) is unless cause it's magic damage still two hand execute it far better as it let you use your CP

That is unless you have point in up Poison, disease and magic damage on your stamina build

PeggymoeXD · April 2015

Oh please. I laugh at wrecking blow spammers. First of all, it is too breakable. Yeah, you're gonna take the damage, but you break the cc just like any other cc ability if you have the stamina. Walking directly through the person using it causes the animation to cancel. Plus, any good 2h wielder uses more than the WB spam. Though it's effective and hits hard, it doesn't work against any decent players.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2015

Nightblade - don't know why you hate this, do what we all should Mark that ass and go Dark Cloak (pray to Sithis that it works) blur into whatever you use.

Templars - Really you don't like this Blazing Shield not returning damage enough to kill with their own WB so Blazing Shield + any attack and topped with BoL don't help you in a Melee (in shield damage range attack) yea ok

Dragon Knights - if you die from this you just suck at Dragon Knighting I have seen Dragon Knights hold block FOREVER 1 v 5-10 so yea you die you suck all Dragon Knights can tank with most builds

Sorcerers - so up against WB is when you stop dropping your *** 15k damage into a blink Daedric mines cause it's Melee then Crystal fragments and overload light attack with powers like this it's hard to ever feel bad for Sorcs

The number of counters to this are crazy Twohanded hits for *** crit Rush only good at range. Plus CC break mid air and beat some fave with 5 seconds of CC immunity I do this EVERYDAY I die to a lot of spammed power this it not one of them

JaJaLuka · April 2015

Tintinabula wrote: »

Block. You're welcome.

Would agree with this if the skill was interruptible.

JaJaLuka · April 2015

Tintinabula wrote: »

the wind up for wrecking blow is incredibly long. Ive seen targets simply press D...or A...and my wind up stopped.Simple as that.

For anyone who runs at 200+ ping (200 being a reasonable ping for international players) it's impossible to avoid simply by trying to step away. While you're still seeing the wind up on your screen the skill has already hit you in game time and you end up flying through the air no matter how far away you get.
The problem isn't that the skill is broken (which it is), the problem is that they haven't considered some of the common scenarios. Before the skill was next to useless with it's immense wind up and terrible damage; now it's able to be spammed, is uninterruptable and hits way too hard for the cast time.

synnerman · April 2015

Rofl at people comparing sorc shield spam and bolt escape to abilities that do 10k damage gg

Tankqull · April 2015

Soris_ESO wrote: »

Tintinabula wrote: »

Block. You're welcome.

Blocking cost 1300 stamina with 50% block cost reduction. Plus you still eat some damage while blocking.

Dodging cost around 3k(?) stamina with medium armor. Completely avoids the damage.

Uppercut cost 1500 stamina with medium armor + CP. Highly spammable.

How long will you dodge and block?

Where is balance? This is not specific only to uppercut but in general. Offence vs defence.

the biggest problem with WB is its bugged endu consumption consuming endu to block the dmg and the cc components seperatly up to 9k endu blockcost on non block optimized characters ...

Maulkin · April 2015

bg22 wrote: »

Yuke wrote: »

people seriously wanna do a l2p issue out of the most cheesiest skill in teso history? i loled. like seriously.

You must be a sorc that thinks sorcs aren't OP? lmao

He's stamina DK using WB.

Next...

Yuke · April 2015

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

For me as a Sorc it's not much of an issuecause I use Bolt Escape to reposition myself and kite.

For the people like @Yuke who see a problem, what is it? Is it the CC or damage?

I dont care about the Damage and the CC. But what makes me mad is the range of 7 meters. LavaWHIP from DK has a 8 meter range - the relation is just wrong. On top of that the range check of wrecking blow is bad coded, so you can hit targets which are 8-10 meters ahead of you, as long as you managed to start wrecking blowing, while your enemy is still in 7 meter range.

Xsorus · April 2015

They'll have to nerf shields if they nerf wrecking blow, as its one of the few things to come close to getting through them

Maulkin · April 2015

Yuke wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

For me as a Sorc it's not much of an issuecause I use Bolt Escape to reposition myself and kite.

For the people like @Yuke who see a problem, what is it? Is it the CC or damage?

I dont care about the Damage and the CC. But what makes me mad is the range of 7 meters. LavaWHIP from DK has a 8 meter range - the relation is just wrong. On top of that the range check of wrecking blow is bad coded, so you can hit targets which are 8-10 meters ahead of you, as long as you managed to start wrecking blowing, while your enemy is still in 7 meter range.

Alright, so from what I understand from these threads is that the major issues are the distance checks and that it sometimes goes through block.

Sounds to me like it needs fixing rather than nerfing. Or have I got this wrong?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2015

It's NOT hitting 10m away it pops up target out of range and cancels your ping is bad you were hit and it don't catch up or maybe he moved forward you can do that.

To the people who don't get its powers Twohanded has a decent AoE, a gap closer it high damage when it closes long gap, an execute, a buff and WB what do you want them to use a AoE bleed redoing it before the bleed's full effect is pointless and waste stamina

Stamina gap closers are not cheap costing more then Attack mostest cause they are not meant to be spammed. Execute are useless for most of the fight so not a whole lot of options

Alomar · April 2015

Honestly I'm glad to see more love for stamina, unfortunately I played it for several months when it sucked and I'm just bored of it now. Yet, wrecking blow does indeed need a tweek or nerf. It's become a fotm skill that you see both large amount of experienced pvpers and new players use. If it truly worked as intended it wouldn't be too bad, but with infused currently not working as intended along with the fact that it is usable from much farther than the distance the tooltip shows makes it broken.

Even when there isn't lag I've run 8-10m+'s away from people wrecking blow'ing me and I still take the damage and the knock-up. I don't want to see it nerfed to the ground, but when you see a huge amount of people changing builds/playstyles just to access one particular ability it kind of speaks for itself that it needs an adjustment. Anyone who says otherwise is currently using it =P

Forestd16b14_ESO · April 2015

Alomar wrote: »

Honestly I'm glad to see more love for stamina, unfortunately I played it for several months when it sucked and I'm just bored of it now. Yet, wrecking blow does indeed need a tweek or nerf. It's become a fotm skill that you see both large amount of experienced pvpers and new players use. If it truly worked as intended it wouldn't be too bad, but with infused currently not working as intended along with the fact that it is usable from much farther than the distance the tooltip shows makes it broken.

Even when there isn't lag I've run 8-10m+'s away from people wrecking blow'ing me and I still take the damage and the knock-up. I don't want to see it nerfed to the ground, but when you see a huge amount of people changing builds/playstyles just to access one particular ability it kind of speaks for itself that it needs an adjustment. Anyone who says otherwise is currently using it =P

Yes the problem not the damage but the stun or knock back effect is what's wrong. They need to look at teh knock back and stun mechanic not the actual damage.

Galalin · April 2015

Alomar wrote: »

Honestly I'm glad to see more love for stamina, unfortunately I played it for several months when it sucked and I'm just bored of it now. Yet, wrecking blow does indeed need a tweek or nerf. It's become a fotm skill that you see both large amount of experienced pvpers and new players use. If it truly worked as intended it wouldn't be too bad, but with infused currently not working as intended along with the fact that it is usable from much farther than the distance the tooltip shows makes it broken.

Even when there isn't lag I've run 8-10m+'s away from people wrecking blow'ing me and I still take the damage and the knock-up. I don't want to see it nerfed to the ground, but when you see a huge amount of people changing builds/playstyles just to access one particular ability it kind of speaks for itself that it needs an adjustment. Anyone who says otherwise is currently using it =P

Anyone who says otherwise is currently using it???
Are you like 10yrs old? You make some arguments which i mostly disagree with but then you end with that? This is the kind of psychology that isn't worthy of persuading a 4yr old.

I can't even take a look at any fact/non facts of you post after that

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