It only provides 10% crit now.

Juraigr wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

It only provides 10% crit now.

Wtf so what's the point of it

What's the point of reading tooltips? What's the point of 5% max magicka? What is the point of 5% extra overall damage?

It's pretty much a crap ability in most circumstances now.

Detect Pot > Old Magelight > New Magelight

Huntler wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

It's pretty much a crap ability in most circumstances now.

Detect Pot > Old Magelight > New Magelight

Dunno, Radiant Magelight is basically required to prevent stealth blowups. Everyone wants to focus on their dps numbers, nobody cares about their survivability. *Sigh*, sounds like a lot of people I run with .

Seriously.... makes you immune to stealth stuns, reduces damage from stealth attacts by ~55%? And for everyone around you too? Plus 10% crit? The utility on it is godly. If you run a pvp group, even a small one someone should be running it.

I was thinking the same on PTS when it was changed, the reduction to stealth damage is godly and it affects nearby players.

Ezareth wrote: »

It's pretty much a crap ability in most circumstances now.

Detect Pot > Old Magelight > New Magelight

I would say Detect Pot > Revealing Flare > Old Magelight > New Magelight

I've used Revealing for quite a few days now and I must say that this ability is totally amazing. Except against nightblades who run as fast as speedy gonzales. The range of the ability doesn't let you aim far enough to anticipate the speed of the player and the distance to fire in front of him.

frozywozy wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

It's pretty much a crap ability in most circumstances now.

Detect Pot > Old Magelight > New Magelight

I would say Detect Pot > Revealing Flare > Old Magelight > New Magelight

I played around with Revealing flare for a long time in early 1.6. The arc of the projectile is way too high, you can't reliably use it on obstacles that are a higher altitude than you (it's almost like a siege weapon in that respect) and the DoT morph of it is completely mitigated by cloak. It's a fun ability against newbs but once everyone learned what it did it is an easy thing to avoid. I dare you to try finding a nightblade that just cloaked 5 feet in front of you with it. I have to guess the direction they're going *and* be lucky with it to hit them. I found that 9 times out of 10 with me spamming that they escaped me so I switched to and started using for the first time ever Detect pots. 40+ seconds of me bolting around in an ever increasing seach pattern will get that night blade 9 out of 10 times.

Ezareth wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

It's pretty much a crap ability in most circumstances now.

Detect Pot > Old Magelight > New Magelight

I would say Detect Pot > Revealing Flare > Old Magelight > New Magelight

I played around with Revealing flare for a long time in early 1.6. The arc of the projectile is way too high, you can't reliably use it on obstacles that are a higher altitude than you (it's almost like a siege weapon in that respect) and the DoT morph of it is completely mitigated by cloak. It's a fun ability against newbs but once everyone learned what it did it is an easy thing to avoid. I dare you to try finding a nightblade that just cloaked 5 feet in front of you with it. I have to guess the direction they're going *and* be lucky with it to hit them. I found that 9 times out of 10 with me spamming that they escaped me so I switched to and started using for the first time ever Detect pots. 40+ seconds of me bolting around in an ever increasing seach pattern will get that night blade 9 out of 10 times.

I don't have any troubles to use it on obstacles or locations that have a higher altitude. I don't use the morph that adds damage, that is completely useless. The other morph is much better.

Huntler wrote: »

The kind of nutcases that zerg down a small group. Ever been in a huge fight and some gankers off to the side completely safe lethal arrow spammed? I'm just going to go ahead and say its happened to you even if you think no its inevitable. You can be stealth attacked from range so that point is only partially true.

Sure the range is small, but if you're running a smallish or tight knit group, 1-2 of you running this will have its benefit. Even if its not on everyone, everywhere. As a healer I am a priority target and it will always be protecting me, protecting others is just a perk.

Well true, bowt@rds are everywhere. But for a closely stacked group, it's primarily meteors and siege that are now the main threat.

Out of curiosity, have you seen anyone running it? I've only see like 1 dude on the first day of 1.6 and that was it.

If it didn't take two slots then I almost certainly would have had it and moved the Mines to my Overload bar. But 2 slots, or 3 if you count the overload bar for us Sorcs, is too much. I guess if it was 1 slot everyone would have it, so I'm not sure how to balance that one.

Huntler wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

It's pretty much a crap ability in most circumstances now.

Detect Pot > Old Magelight > New Magelight

Dunno, Radiant Magelight is basically required to prevent stealth blowups. Everyone wants to focus on their dps numbers, nobody cares about their survivability. *Sigh*, sounds like a lot of people I run with .

Seriously.... makes you immune to stealth stuns, reduces damage from stealth attacts by ~55%? And for everyone around you too? Plus 10% crit? The utility on it is godly. If you run a pvp group, even a small one someone should be running it.

It´s a crap ability by design as its a toggle. I love the functionality but i refuse to use toggles in this game. Utterly stupid, boring, mind numbing, idiotic mechanic in a 10 skillslot game.

Derra wrote: »

It´s a crap ability by design as its a toggle. I love the functionality but i refuse to use toggles in this game. Utterly stupid, boring, mind numbing, idiotic mechanic in a 10 skillslot game.

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

I remember your PTS built with Necropotence and 3 toggles and.... 40k magicka was it? Twilight Zaps for 4k. Yes, I remember

woodsro wrote: »

I run it. Renders stealth attacks and archers useless. Plus it gives you more max magicka and more magicka regen due to mage guild passive magicka controller.

RML us godly you get:

More crit
Can see hidden players
Insane stealth damage reduction
Can be stunned by stealth attacks
More max magic due to MG passive.
More Regen due to MG passive

So you get 6 positive benefits for one skill, there is simply no reason to not run it. Best two slots I ever spent.

I can get close to 50% critical right now and I don't even have the champ passive yet, can't wait to get that one.

It would cost me Mana detonation and defensive posture or efficient purge to run that. While the benefits are nice, losing 2 abilities worth of utility for that make it a deal breaker. You can't kill perma-dodgers with just curse and without purge you're susceptible to eclipse, talons, lethal arrow healing debuff, and NB Mark etc.

If Detect potions didn't allow me to see through Cloak already, would definitely use Magelight.

As it stands currently though, Detect potions are simply a far better option for me. Magelight costs skill slots that cannot really be spared for it, and provides shorter range.