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New XP gains....
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I was referring to no increase in XP for us, which is after all what this thread is about.
actually, the trials ARE pve. Get a group lol the trials xp I tested with was the flame atros in Archives. First set of mobs. 1650 per mob. go in kill reset repeat.
1650 is with the 1100% increase?
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Saucy_Jack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wait, they just upped exp by a bunch in dozens of places and you're complaining about the lack of exp your character will be getting?
*I am heartily confused*ALL HAIL SNUGGLORR THE MAGNIFICENT, KING OF THE RNG AND NIRN'S ONE TRUE GOD! Also, become a Scrub-scriber! SJ Scrubs: Playing games badly to make you feel better about yourself.2 -
Gorthax✭✭✭✭✭
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I was referring to no increase in XP for us, which is after all what this thread is about.
actually, the trials ARE pve. Get a group lol the trials xp I tested with was the flame atros in Archives. First set of mobs. 1650 per mob. go in kill reset repeat.
1650 is with the 1100% increase?
yesSaucy_Jack wrote: »Wait, they just upped exp by a bunch in dozens of places and you're complaining about the lack of exp your character will be getting?
*I am heartily confused*
No I am not complaining lol I ENJOY it @Saucy_Jack0 -
Gorthax✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm not VR14 on one yet, my highest is VR10 and done 'gold' .. how the hell is she supposed to get to VR14 now the Craglorn XP has been nerfed to Oblivion (as it was last autumn) I loathe forced-grouping simply to level to be able to play end-game content? Craglorn should me made into a normal zone like all the others, if there ever was a useful purpose for it those days have long gone.@Kragorn I am max vr14 on three characters, I dont need to grind at all. Unless I am that min/max about getting as many CP as I can get. I do enjoy grinding though as I find it more fun than actual questing. Just figured I would post what I found once the server went live and I could do a quick little test.
This change does nothing to give me hope my VR10 will ever gain another single XP, let alone 4m needed for VR14.
Basically 1-VR10 is a normal MMO, VR10+ is a 1990s group-or-die affair.
first off, you can solo stuff in craglorn it is easy. Secondly, the buff to xp in pvp is AMAZING and it is a very fun grind spot. You can also look into getting into trial training groups and leveling that way as xp in trials is stupid good now. This game was never meant to be 100% soloable and to think it was is just laughable (no offense)2 -
GaldorP✭✭✭✭✭actually, the trials ARE pve. Get a group lol the trials xp I tested with was the flame atros in Archives. First set of mobs. 1650 per mob. go in kill reset repeat.
Is that 1650 XP without Enlightenment or with the Enlightenment bonus?
Also, could anyone post how much XP a single regular VR 12 monster in Cyrodiil gives now
EU player here
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pronkg✭✭✭✭
So what was all the fuzz about?
1650 xp per mob in trials is a respectable amount.....
I say good job zenimax. And no I don't run trials.
Cyrodill xp is probably 1100 since it was 550 before patch0 -
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✭m.stollb16_ESO wrote: »actually, the trials ARE pve. Get a group lol the trials xp I tested with was the flame atros in Archives. First set of mobs. 1650 per mob. go in kill reset repeat.
Is that 1650 XP without Enlightenment or with the Enlightenment bonus?
Also, could anyone post how much XP a single regular VR 12 monster in Cyrodiil gives now
EU player here
Thanks in advance
my xp addon does NOT count enlightnement. I have a seperate addon for that
I see both amounts at the same time. Normal xp on the right and enlightened on the left everything I posted about is NORMAL xp ^_~ 0 -
Limbus✭✭
I'm not VR14 on one yet, my highest is VR10 and done 'gold' .. how the hell is she supposed to get to VR14 now the Craglorn XP has been nerfed to Oblivion (as it was last autumn) I loathe forced-grouping simply to level to be able to play end-game content? Craglorn should me made into a normal zone like all the others, if there ever was a useful purpose for it those days have long gone.@Kragorn I am max vr14 on three characters, I dont need to grind at all. Unless I am that min/max about getting as many CP as I can get. I do enjoy grinding though as I find it more fun than actual questing. Just figured I would post what I found once the server went live and I could do a quick little test.
This change does nothing to give me hope my VR10 will ever gain another single XP, let alone 4m needed for VR14.
Basically 1-VR10 is a normal MMO, VR10+ is a 1990s group-or-die affair.
Answered a earlier question I had. Thank you, I wont be coming back to ESO
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✭✭✭✭✭Oh XP schmexpe! You cant pvp in cyrodiil anymore anyway, the lagg will suck your fun away.
PC EU
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EQBallzz✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you don't do trials or PVP and you completed all the silver/gold quests...what are you supposed to do for XP?2 -
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So not true, once you reach VR14 there are no "good spots". Because there are no normal landscape mobs that gives full exp once you reach max level. There's only DSA mobs that gives full exp (and possible now trials and Cyrodiil, I haven't tested yet because EU). But for someone that's max level and doesn't run trials or PvP, it's still going to be a pain to get CP.
I do PvP, DSA and the occasional trial, but I feel really sorry for players that dont.
This is how unbalanced it is: Killing normal mobs on my VR1= 455 exp a kill and loads of "good spots" to pick from.
Killing on level mobs on my VR14 = 158 exp. Best I can get is 75% of a full kill or 330 exp, if I go to the VR10 zone. Sadly all spots in VR10 zone have more zerging players than actual enemies.2 -
IcyDeadPeople✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you don't do trials or PVP and you completed all the silver/gold quests...what are you supposed to do for XP?
Hmm, maybe veteran dungeons, Cyrodiil quest hubs or....
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✭jluceyub17_ESO wrote: »
Well there could be other quests for V14 but there aren't. There could be dungeons and delvs but the XP is beyond terrible there. There could be daily quests outside of the crafting ones or Cyrodiil but there aren't. Craglorn could be viable for questing solo or grinding but it isn't.1 -
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✭✭jluceyub17_ESO wrote: »
Well there could be other quests for V14 but there aren't. There could be dungeons and delvs but the XP is beyond terrible there. There could be daily quests outside of the crafting ones or Cyrodiil but there aren't. Craglorn could be viable for questing solo or grinding but it isn't.
Curious as to what your goal would be in grinding the XP - is it for Champion Points? Are you planning to use them for a new character? If so, you can earn them more quickly on VR1-VR10.
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✭IcyDeadPeople wrote: »jluceyub17_ESO wrote: »
Well there could be other quests for V14 but there aren't. There could be dungeons and delvs but the XP is beyond terrible there. There could be daily quests outside of the crafting ones or Cyrodiil but there aren't. Craglorn could be viable for questing solo or grinding but it isn't.
Curious as to what your goal would be in grinding the XP - is it for Champion Points? Are you planning to use them for a new character? If so, you can earn them more quickly on VR1-VR10.
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XP for CP. Eventually I would like to use the added CP for trials but atm I don't have a trials group to do that. I'm waiting for friends to level up/catch up. I would also like to use them for some casual PVP eventually but again..when I have a group to do that with. I am leveling another character up to VR1 since it seems like the only viable way to gain CP atm but I have already dont silver/gold twice (and got credit for it once) so it's not that appealing to me atm.Edited by EQBallzz on March 23, 2015 9:52PM0 -
sigsergv✭✭✭✭AlienDiplomat wrote: »There are VERY few places in the open world that give decent XP and those places are camped by so many people you get horrible XP due to diminishing returns for 3+ people hitting mobs.
Equip bow and spam Bombard with Scorched Earth while running in grinding place. But you will be hated a lot.0 -
Exstazik✭✭✭✭Everyone who once complete all factions zones:
Dolmens,quests,dungeons and etc. should have the choice to skip or not vet factions.Craglorn should be "elite" zone and can be opened only for people who not skip content..Once it will be done ZOS can returned EXP which they nerfed for Craglorn.It will help people who didn't skip content to up another characters and it will fill empty zones with new players.
Exmaples:
1) You have 1 character who closed all content in all zones (quests,dolmes,dungeons ,etc.).You decide to up alt and after you done main quest line you will receive notice to "skip another 2 vet zones" (as it already done with tutorial).OFC it should be rewarded with skill points.
2)You didn't all content in vet zones.So you should do it at least ones on 1 character and don't skip content.If you don't want to do vet zones you still can up throw PvP0 -
Caroloces✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, but how does a V12 delve mob in Cyrodiil compare in terms of XP with a V10 overland mob in Gold? And if the concentration of mobs is high enough, will it be comparable/worthwile? I'm sure someone will find out shortly and report.
This is related to your question, but not exactly. Curious to see xp gains with cyrodil delves with my VR4 char (on the cusp of VR5), I went in to see these amazing xp gains. Much to my surprise, they seemed to be the same as the mobs in my current Cadwell's Silver zone (about 1800 xp). I'm not sure what they were before (perhaps significantly less), but I wasn't that impressed.0 -
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✭jluceyub17_ESO wrote: »
why would you not do trials? It is a very fun part of pve. Lots of team work is involved and they are such a blast. Plus a lot of good gear comes from there0 -
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✭✭✭✭I know the PvP type 'dailies' (Kill 20 players, etc) were giving about 50k Enlightened XP's. Didn't make it to a repeatable quest hub or a delve yesterday.
Since all enemies are now VR12, they should add up, as well.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
IRL'ing for a while for assorted reasons, in forum, and in game.I am neither warm, nor fuzzy...
Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS0 -
GaldorP✭✭✭✭✭Since I haven't seen this info posted on the forums yet, here's some info (XP values) I've personally gathered regarding the PvE part of Cyrodiil in game version 2.0.2:A VR 14 character with ESO Plus will gain:
364 XP (393 XP with Enemy Keep Bonus III)* from regular monsters (main map, dungeons, and dark anchors; most will have 20,656 Health)
728 XP (787 XP with Enemy Keep Bonus III)* from bosses
8,233 XP (not affected by Keep XP bonuses)* for completing daily PvE quests and Fighters Guild Bounty Missions
All enemies are VR 12 (including Dark Anchors).
Regular treasure chests are still VR 14 (for VR 14 characters) but may only include non set items or green items of the sets Martial Knowledge, Way of Air, and Way or Fire, as far as I know.
Dark Anchor reward chests are actually VR 14, too (for VR 14 characters)!
Material nodes still offer mostly lv 50 materials with the exception of a few nodes that include VR 1-3 materials, just as before, so no change there. VR 12 beasts will drop Shadowhide now though
* XP values without Enlightenment
Update 2: I've found an explanation for the varying XP values gained by killing monsters: The amount of XP you gain from killing monsters in Cyrodiil is actually affected by the Keep XP bonuses your character has. So if your side holds a lot of keeps in a certain campaign you will gain more XP for killing monsters in that campaign as well. The quest rewards for daily PvE quests are fixed at 8,233 XP though ansd will not be increased by Keep bonuses.Edited by GaldorP on March 24, 2015 7:16PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭rsiloliveiraub17_ESO wrote: »IcyDeadPeople wrote: »rsiloliveiraub17_ESO wrote: »Can anyone just run a Trial and check the XP/CP gain and post here?
Unfortunately I'm at work so I can't do it myself.
Sure, I'll just quickly solo Hel-Ra and let you know how that works out.
If only I could bring some stone trebs in there...
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Be sure to grab some of them forward camps also. It is not like they are hard to find these days.
I actually have one... is it worth anything?#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
Tyr✭✭✭✭m.stollb16_ESO wrote: »Since I haven't seen this info posted on the forums yet, here's some info I've personally gathered regarding the PvE part of Cyrodiil in game version 2.0.2:A VR 14 character with ESO Plus will gain:
393 XP from regular monsters (main map, dungeons, and dark anchors)
787 XP from bosses
8,233 XP for completing daily PvE quests and Fighters Guild Bounty Missions
All enemies are VR 12 (including Dark Anchors).
Regular treasure chests are still VR 14 but may only include non set items or green items of the sets Martial Knowledge, Way of Air, and Way or Fire, as far as I know.
Dark Anchor reward chests are VR 12.
Material nodes still offer mostly lv 50 materials with the exception of a few nodes that include VR 1-3 materials, just as before, so no change there.
Is this enlightened XP or regular?0 -
DivZero✭✭✭Craglorn dungeons where buffed, too. a full clear run of hircine is ~25k cxp (without enlightenment,tested solo.i don't know how much is group cxp). 2 decent dps shouls be able to clear it way under 8 minutes.0
