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✭✭✭✭k1llorbek1lled wrote: »nukeemstudiosub17_ESO wrote: »Whats funny is we have had three way fights with hundreds of players and it has not lagged out. You go to any other server (without these certain groups there) and there is NO lag. Why here?? why against these certain players?? Simple they do it on purpose!! they have admitted it!
NOPE, NEVER. Please show me something in this game where there has EVER been a 3way 100v100 fight with no lag. NEVER in this game. You're complete BS and really butthurt if your saying that LOL
PvP at release was closest thing to it. There wasnt any server/client issues that handicapped the pvp experience.0 -
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✭✭✭There's new high end PVP gear coming soon . Also Seige are going to be worth buying again . I imagine a lot of DC are just farming AP and could care less about campaigns at the moment .1 -
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✭✭There were 30+ of you on the front flag at Glade. All 30 where piled up and just spamming AOE's, not even trying to fight the DC running around. That was clear lagsploiting. Make all the excuses you want but we are all playing the game.
Maybe they were lagging and having trouble using their abilities properly?
Do you feel that if the game lags, this somehow makes it easier for the attacking players, even if they are experiencing the same lag and cannot fight enemies properly?
If all the players in a siege battle are lagged, I would imagine at least the defending players have the benefit of some NPCs.
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RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pop lock for DC is often a joke, we where locked for roughly an hour last night(AT-LEAST ON THORN), but a lot dc side just get lagged out during zerg runs, though have found a way to beat the lag due to zergs. I haven't been getting lag so long has I'm out of a group even if running with or beside the zergs its somewhat confusing so long has I don;t join a group I so odd
Chillrend is the main server that DC truly locks up during primetime some nights lately, though then again rarely lasts more then a hourEdited by RedTalon on March 19, 2015 7:36PM0 -
RedTalon✭✭✭✭✭
✭There's new high end PVP gear coming soon . Also Seige are going to be worth buying again . I imagine a lot of DC are just farming AP and could care less about campaigns at the moment .
I have been finishing some quests and still have to do the gold thread for main story so been working on that again, also mopping up monsters and portal sites I missed for xp so can get chump points, been seeing a lot more in DC vet zones lately though still not a lot, so most likely ap farming and chump point farming0 -
Karamis_Vimardon✭✭✭✭There's new high end PVP gear coming soon . Also Seige are going to be worth buying again . I imagine a lot of DC are just farming AP and could care less about campaigns at the moment .
Ssshhhhh
Edited by Karamis_Vimardon on March 20, 2015 1:47AMPC NA
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Jauriel✭✭✭✭Lone Pirate said:
"? Many of you talk as if EP sweeps in, does nothing but lag out the server while being immune to the lag wherein they mop the floor with the crippled enemy faction once the lag kicks in."
This is EXACTLY how you cause [snip] to turn a battle in your favor when YOU are losing. The lies and denials are wearing thin. Especially since people have come forward and blown the whistle on the[snip]for some time now.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]Edited by ZOS_ShannonM on March 22, 2015 9:37PM0 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭Glad to see, based on that edit, that ZOS seems to realize one particular guild needs to be scrutinized.1
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glak✭✭✭Where were you prime time last night when EP crashed thru Glademist, then Warden, and took off with our scroll? I'm really just in awe how little we had there with a locked pop. on TB NA.
I just don't know how this faction even functions anymore. There are only so many good leaders around to even "try" to get stuff done. The rest of you? I just don't wanna bash my own faction, but...uhhg. Ya all make it really hard to keep logging in. /disgruntled DC grunt
lagsploit is just going to occur. What are we supposed to do when only the other side lags, sip a bit of tea?IcyDeadPeople wrote: »There were 30+ of you on the front flag at Glade. All 30 where piled up and just spamming AOE's, not even trying to fight the DC running around. That was clear lagsploiting. Make all the excuses you want but we are all playing the game.
Maybe they were lagging and having trouble using their abilities properly?
Do you feel that if the game lags, this somehow makes it easier for the attacking players, even if they are experiencing the same lag and cannot fight enemies properly?
If all the players in a siege battle are lagged, I would imagine at least the defending players have the benefit of some NPCs.
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Deviante✭✭How is it exactly that one faction can cause lag without the other contributing...
I wish people would stop blaming factions for this as though they are using some skill to increase your latency and reduce your fps.
Every faction blames the other for causing it when clearly the game itself is at fault.0 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭k1llorbek1lled wrote: »Btw, not sure who the DC emp was we last dethroned (Riftance or Gondor??) but when it came down to the last keep, DC's whole faction was stacked on the back flag, and it was so laggy and nothing worked you guys just repaired everything while EP was still on the flags and the keep was defended with lag. I think it was Grunt's group maybe, whoever is wearing the white dresses on DC. You didn't see EP come on here and QQ about it, it's just how this game is now, there will never be a whole factionVSfaction battle, the game cant do it.
I was there for that. It was NPK and LOM and a whole lotta pugs. The fact of the matter is-we began to feel the typical ep choke lag and we managed to pull it off by the skin of our butts by repairing the outter while ep was doing their voodoo. It was even called out in zone that repairing the wall seemed to be the anti-lag, mercifully. Everyone cheered in zone that we managed to beat ep at their own game for once.1 -
bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭im waiting for cyrodiil to get fixed. even then im not much of a pvp'er, youd likely find me in chorral or bruma0 -
Sile✭✭✭Not calling anyone out, but it does get really tiresome to watch damage stop and then a scroll get picked up and moving while damage won't thin anything out.
It happens in keeps too. Groups just hard stacking flags while damage is stopped. IMO this is just coincidence, but it consistently lags out at the most inopportune times for DC.
The other night 3 of us were ganking a scroll runner, in about 20 EP. Overload him down to 5%, server lags right out for about 20s, he gets healed to full, lag clears and we get rolled.
It's situations like this that have given rise to the lag accusations, and quite frankly I don't think EP would have anywhere near the success they enjoy if there was no lag.Edited by Sile on March 23, 2015 6:10AMGondor
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Snit✭✭✭✭✭
✭- After EP lagged out Ales, many didn't feel like going though the same thing again at Glade
Happens to you guys, too? We AD experience the exact same thing. Fights on the West side of the map are PvP. Fights on the east side usually turn into slideshows, to the point where it's just not worth fighting them.
Edited by Snit on March 23, 2015 6:19AMSnit AD Sorc
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EP stop trying to rationalize it!! You exploit!! thats it!! You have been caught. Stop trying to deny it!2
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Tryionn66✭✭This thread is amusing.
They caught us EP is the only faction that never has any lag issues ever.
well since you all know you might as well just join us.~Anavari ~
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Rust_in_Peace✭✭✭✭✭If you were at Glademist last night you saw the same EP group doing the same thing to keep the lag intentionally high.
I think it was around 10pm and my group rolled into that keep and our ping started soaring. The battle had not even started yet. When we entered the keep we saw that the group in question, everyone knows who they are by now, was stacked on the back flag spamming every AOE they had. It is my understanding that it's mostly heals that cause the most lag and that once that lag kicks in they are the only spells that consistently register and actually go through. So in this regard if the group is doing it intentionally and keeping their heals up they will eventually win against another group that isn't doing the same thing.
What tends to happen is the group exploiting the lag will have all their AOE damage and ultimates register at the same time and the damage is dealt it one big burst. There's no way to counter that.
Another thing that happened last night, it might have also been at Glade or Ales, where a large number of DC reacted to the same EP group and we all stacked on the flag just like they do and spammed heals, ultimates and AOE. The ping was maxed out the entire time and a lot of people crashed but we did eventually out lag that EP group.
That's what PVP has come to now; who can out lag the opponent.
Conversely, earlier in the night my group was fighting against an AD group of about 20 people in a defensive battle that lated about half an hour. Lots of caltrops, oils, healing and the lag was stable. There was a bit of lag but it was definitely still playable.
It's not just coincidence and it's not just "x amount of players are here therefore the game can't handle it". I'm not saying you should ban this group but something needs to be done. A lot of people are fed up with dealing with them and the temporary solution would be, hey just move to another campaign, but how long until the problem returns with other groups doing the same thing in other servers?4 -
Soul_Demon✭✭✭✭✭There is no fighting the propaganda.....Green crush is on with 30 AD, tightly balled and another 30 tightly balled DC all attacking the Pact. With consistently 2 to one odds they should be doing much better, but are not.
So, roll out the propaganda wagon and paint yourselves the victims.....the only logical excuse when even at 2 to 1 odds you are not beating someone into submission. Yup...2 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭Rust_in_Peace wrote: »If you were at Glademist last night you saw the same EP group doing the same thing to keep the lag intentionally high.
I think it was around 10pm and my group rolled into that keep and our ping started soaring. The battle had not even started yet. When we entered the keep we saw that the group in question, everyone knows who they are by now, was stacked on the back flag spamming every AOE they had. It is my understanding that it's mostly heals that cause the most lag and that once that lag kicks in they are the only spells that consistently register and actually go through. So in this regard if the group is doing it intentionally and keeping their heals up they will eventually win against another group that isn't doing the same thing.
What tends to happen is the group exploiting the lag will have all their AOE damage and ultimates register at the same time and the damage is dealt it one big burst. There's no way to counter that.
Another thing that happened last night, it might have also been at Glade or Ales, where a large number of DC reacted to the same EP group and we all stacked on the flag just like they do and spammed heals, ultimates and AOE. The ping was maxed out the entire time and a lot of people crashed but we did eventually out lag that EP group.
That's what PVP has come to now; who can out lag the opponent.
Conversely, earlier in the night my group was fighting against an AD group of about 20 people in a defensive battle that lated about half an hour. Lots of caltrops, oils, healing and the lag was stable. There was a bit of lag but it was definitely still playable.
It's not just coincidence and it's not just "x amount of players are here therefore the game can't handle it". I'm not saying you should ban this group but something needs to be done. A lot of people are fed up with dealing with them and the temporary solution would be, hey just move to another campaign, but how long until the problem returns with other groups doing the same thing in other servers?
As a leader for NPK I will confess we are so sick and tired of EP garbage intentional lag we are countering it in anyway we can. We have beaten back their lag on two occasions in the past week and will continue to do so until ZOS fixes the game or bans the guild in question. We are determined to stand up to the handful of THUGS who steamroll in with 50 pugs on their heels and then sit back and deliberately cause morbid, death lock lag.2 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭Soul_Demon wrote: »There is no fighting the propaganda.....Green crush is on with 30 AD, tightly balled and another 30 tightly balled DC all attacking the Pact. With consistently 2 to one odds they should be doing much better, but are not.
So, roll out the propaganda wagon and paint yourselves the victims.....the only logical excuse when even at 2 to 1 odds you are not beating someone into submission. Yup...
So much in here is such blatant lying I don't even know where to begin.
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Soul_Demon✭✭✭✭✭Was that 6 or 7 back to back posts in another thread?
Too bad they don't have an award for that.0 -
PainfulFAFA✭✭✭✭✭
✭The EP denial is real and hilarious!
The only argument i see here from Reds is that "we are all lagging so it cant be us, other factions are contributing to the lag."
That's complete BS lol
How is it that as soon as the lagswitch is turned on that EP starts taking the entire map (and scroll)?
Shouldnt they be crashing and lagging like everyone else?
EP's pugs are also victims, but they're not the ones activating the lag.
Its funny how last night after the scroll got taken, the lag went away. lol!
Im pretty sure EP zone chat is full of ppl also denying it and spreading out lies to deceive its alliance.
PS: When AD went to arrius and took your scroll, not a single person complained about lag... coincidence? lol
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WebBull✭✭✭✭✭
✭This thread is amusing.
They caught us EP is the only faction that never has any lag issues ever.
well since you all know you might as well just join us.
Of course you have lag. Your faction blatantly causes is it. Lag favors the alliance with numbers. It is sad that EP can't always win with numbers alone. Lag is now required. The movie stars and other players that will remain anonymous rely on numbers and lag. Without those two things, EP is nothing.1 -
Huckdabuck✭✭✭✭✭This thread is amusing.
They caught us EP is the only faction that never has any lag issues ever.
well since you all know you might as well just join us.
Of course you have lag. Your faction blatantly causes is it. Lag favors the alliance with numbers. It is sad that EP can't always win with numbers alone. Lag is now required. The movie stars and other players that will remain anonymous rely on numbers and lag. Without those two things, EP is nothing.
Without numbers NO ONE is anything. MASS PvP = relying on numbers. The lag is a whole other issue.Texashighelf - VR16 Sorcerer EP NA - FILTHY BARBARIAN
Texasimperial - VR16 Dragonknight EP NA - How do you like your DK?
Texas'Imperial - VR16 Dragonknight DC NA - How do you like your DK?
Texas-Imperial - VR16 Templar DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
Texas Highelf - VR16 Sorcerer DC NA - Queue Clogging Lagsploitter
Texas Imperial - VR16 Nightblade DC NA - Queue Clogging LagsploitterJessica Folsom wrote:It's a very grey area.1 -
Jauriel✭✭✭✭Soul_Demon wrote: »Was that 6 or 7 back to back posts in another thread?
Too bad they don't have an award for that.
Sick of being called out for your dirty, low down, unsportsmanlike gameplay? Too bad. I am fed up with you clowns. And I think the more DC and AD we can get here vouching for seeing you laggers at your worst-the more we can draw the attention of those in charge of putting a stop to it! And that's really what you dirty players are worried about. You're worried ZOS is going to start making changes and watching you guys so you come here and either lie and deny or straight up attack those of us with the backbone to stand up to you!!Edited by Jauriel on March 23, 2015 6:02PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Meh; I don't have a problem with red/EP. Seems to be a different color I see. Just waiting for the guild I run with to decide whether or not they will just move off of Thornblade completely as I do think the best answer is to just leave them to play with themselves.Edited by technohic on March 23, 2015 6:06PM1 -
Soul_Demon✭✭✭✭✭Soul_Demon wrote: »Was that 6 or 7 back to back posts in another thread?
Too bad they don't have an award for that.
Sick of being called out for your dirty, low down, unsportsmanlike gameplay? Too bad. I am fed up with you clowns. And I think the more DC and AD we can get here vouching for seeing you laggers at your worst-the more we can draw the attention of those in charge of putting a stop to it! And that's really what you dirty players are worried about. You're worried ZOS is going to start making changes and watching you guys so you come here and either lie and deny or straight up attack those of us with the backbone to stand up to you!!
Have any idea what an Ad Ignorantiam argument is?
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Where are you going to run off to? Chill? Because lags pretty much just as much if not more there than Thorn and "that group" doesnt play on Chill so best of luck finding any locked pop server that isnt going to be laggy because it simply just doesnt exist. The meta in ESO is always going to be AoE, its just the nature of a no cooldown massive pvp experience. The only way to fix it is to give players a way to kill large enemy groups more efficiently. Ground oils and frag shields and orbs were all great ways of doing extremely high damage with a smaller group and stop zergs in their tracks. But, ZoS seems to want to encourage zerging where only the side with the larger numbers will win which is just disappointing and takes all the skill out of the game for objective based gameplay. Anyway best of luck finding a non laggy pvp experience.Meh; I don't have a problem with red/EP. Seems to be a different color I see. Just waiting for the guild I run with to decide whether or not they will just move off of Thornblade completely as I do think the best answer is to just leave them to play with themselves.Asneakybanana AD DK Former emperor of Chrysamere and Chillrend. World first hardmode Hel'ra and Quake con winner (Alliance rank 25)Sweat Squad
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✭✭✭✭✭asneakybanana wrote: »
Where are you going to run off to? Chill? Because lags pretty much just as much if not more there than Thorn and "that group" doesnt play on Chill so best of luck finding any locked pop server that isnt going to be laggy because it simply just doesnt exist. The meta in ESO is always going to be AoE, its just the nature of a no cooldown massive pvp experience. The only way to fix it is to give players a way to kill large enemy groups more efficiently. Ground oils and frag shields and orbs were all great ways of doing extremely high damage with a smaller group and stop zergs in their tracks. But, ZoS seems to want to encourage zerging where only the side with the larger numbers will win which is just disappointing and takes all the skill out of the game for objective based gameplay. Anyway best of luck finding a non laggy pvp experience.Meh; I don't have a problem with red/EP. Seems to be a different color I see. Just waiting for the guild I run with to decide whether or not they will just move off of Thornblade completely as I do think the best answer is to just leave them to play with themselves.
Lag happens everywhere but from what I gather when I have been on a different server and what it sounds like my guild has experienced; is considerably less lag and less severe.0