What surprised me was ESO's lack of well... Only word I can use is Maturity.

Considering that Zenimax was involved with Doom, and Quake, Fallout, you'd just expect a lot more violence in ESO, and the only reason I can understand them not adding much is because they wanted to keep the game T-rated. Now to me, that's just stupid, silly stupid. The game is rated M. So stop sugar-coating it and give us Mature content, personally, the best thing ever in gaming is immersion. You had plenty of that in Fallout 3 just to pick and choose, and The Pitt DLC, was gruesomely well-done and probably my most favorite DLC of all-time. The previous Elder Scrolls were Mature, FFS didn't one of them have a naked furry brothel?

And the lore...

The lore is by absolutely no means suitable for children, it's completely Mature. The Real Barenziah anyone?

And that's the censored version...

I don't want to see gratuitous sex and obscene stuff like Queen's Blade, I want to see blood, gore, violence, gestures to sexual-things, I want to read in the books I find in game about blood, gore, violence, cannibalism, sexual-things, etc. Call me crazy, or perverted, but ESO doesn't feel real, it doesn't feel like a separate universe, it feels like a Disney movie with the stifled laughs of sexual-innuendos that are ridiculously stupid and immature. Still a good game, but it's rated M and they treat it like it's rated E. Add some decapitated corpses to Cyrodiil and burnt lynch bodies hanging from a tree with a note nailed into the tree stating they were rapists or thieves... I'll be a happy camper then.

Can we get a skooma bar so we can all go tripping?

Would be nice to get response from the ZOS devs on this one.

I've had a Bosmer woman swear terrible vengeance in blood and flesh on a guy who murdered her lifemate, and when it came to it i expected her to carve the bugger up with her dagger, which was all the dialogue lead up to. What happened? She tortures him with some magic blue beam, no blood, nothing. After all the running around and actually for a slight moment caring i felt thrown back into reality realising there wasn't going to be a satisfying moment to make up for it.
One quests that stood out perhaps was a slightly psychotic Dunmer slaveowner strangling a Khajiit slave in Stonefalls. "Does a mudcrab care if it's offspring dies? no."... etc.
That actually made me grin and enjoy the EP quest content.
DC and AD totally lack these moments, and everyone is just a knight in shining armour or a treehugger or a Disneyversion of cat people.
With the Bretons there was so much stuff i wanted to get into, The Reachmen, questing with them for instance, in Rivenspire with all the Vamps and Undead some Necromancy on *my* part. (only thing we get is Abnur Tharn joking about "A child of 5 could do it, unfortunately we don't have a child of 5 so you'll have to bring me a few chunks of meat" .... and THAT is the kind of thing that made me laugh and collect 5 items and kill mobs without it feeling boring.

DivZero wrote: »

hire some guys from loverslab. they know what they are doing. well, some of them. maybe. I'll show myself the door from outside...nvm

hehehe TES Boobrim isn't what anyone really wants i think (well there may be that dude who does). I'd be happy if they got the Morrowind Crew or people who designed Oblivion on the job, or at least have one of them supervising the development.
Right now it's the blind leading the blind. Which is weird since their lead designer i believe (i might be wrong on this one), also worked on Warhammer Online which by all means was an awful realization of a good idea, but it had a lot of fun quests.
And that kind of quest is what i am missing.
Also SWTOR managed to have a perfect balance between players who wanted to run around with cuddly Ewoks saving the world and being the goodiest good dudes on the planet(s), and then the players who's eccentric deranged minds giggles when frying an innocents brain (you might notice i am #2 in this one).
That's kinda what i want.
Not ALL gritty dark and brutal but a real choice for players.
Those who want to save the world and those who just want to see it burn and smell the ash.
If this can be done i'm ready to support this game no matter how, and the potential is there really, it just needs to be done.

Im tired of hacking away at a person with an axe and them just collapsing like I clubbed them in the head with a stick. It is very dull.

I came across the Mudcrab fight in Stros M'kai earlier today (In Port Hunding, a back alley betting thing akin to real life cockerel fights,) and was surprised that there was more blood coming off them little critters in that short battle than I, or anyone I have fought against whilst levelling my characters, had drawn in total.

Bravo to whoever programmed that little fight and put in them little blood spurts, and especially for having a winner, unlike most npc on npc fights that go on forever with no movement in their hp bars.

Xandryah wrote: »

but .. there is no diversity in swtor.. all toons look like they were the sexy clone of each other... the male toons all have super-muscular torsos, great wavy hair! lol

That's because you haven't seen my Rhiordan. She doesn't look like any other PC that I've seen except that I've seen a few people try to emulate her.

On topic...I said no because I think ESO is fine as it is. If I want blood, I play The Last Of Us or any such game, plenty of gore in other games.

I'm saying that if we want the same level of maturity as The Elder Scrolls has provided us in the past, in an MMO, why shouldn't we play The Elder Scrolls Online?

... Because Zenimax has not delivered us an Elder Scrolls level of mature experience.

I'm enjoying the game the way it is very very much. But I suppose with more mature content I'd enjoy it even more. So yes, I'd like to have more of it.

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Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

Xandryah wrote: »

but .. there is no diversity in swtor.. all toons look like they were the sexy clone of each other... the male toons all have super-muscular torsos, great wavy hair! lol

That's because you haven't seen my Rhiordan. She doesn't look like any other PC that I've seen except that I've seen a few people try to emulate her.

On topic...I said no because I think ESO is fine as it is. If I want blood, I play The Last Of Us or any such game, plenty of gore in other games.

If you want *** then use google. I am not saying you want *** I am just trying to say that if you want blood or boobs eso is not the place....

Why are you so obsessed with sex? More importantly, why is your definition of 'mature' sex? A mature theme does not need sex or violence to be mature.

I think it's all a rather moot point.

I offer into evidence the following exhibit....the Corseted Long Dress, subtitled a low-cut corseted dress...emphasis mine....


If this is their idea of low-cut.....oy vey....

And at what point did "mature" content equate to less players?
It makes no sense.
Boredom and childish content will make the game lose players a LOT more than the opposite would.
A more serious and darker tone with other themes like sex, drugs and slavery would certainly not make people leave cause it's oh so shocking.

Blood for the Blood God.

Im not one for over the top blood splatter or grotesque dismemberment, but I agree that the death elements could be more realistic. I was all about immersion mods in Skyrim. Tried to make the game as gritty and realistic as possible. A little stronger language and harsher tones wouldn't hurt.

I do feel they've done a great job with alluding to things or implying. There are some very dark over arching themes to some of the storylines.However, upping the stakes in certain situations, would only add to the emotions and heart strings being tugged at.

I do look forward to the future of the game and what they have planned. Keep up the good work!

It's just dumb to have gore for the sake of gore. It's gross and honestly makes things much less enjoyable for me. Yes, you're bleeding and disfigured. No need to shove it in my face.

As far as mature themes go, I prefer more dark overtones. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask is a great example of how something can be very mature and not covered in useless gore or sex. There's a lot of real-world problems like people dying, depression, rage, and fear- things that simply can't be totally fixed by a hero in shining armor. For the most part, ESO already has a good amount of this.

I wouldn't mind it so much if they delved more into drugs and prostitution. There's a TON of it in the lore and it's always played quite a bit in undertones, but it's not really something you actually see. There's three daedra that practically specialize in it (Sanguine, Molag Bal, Mephala) and even Dibella for goodness sake, not to mention all of the salacious books! And despite that you really don't see any brothels or prostitutes or drug dealers.