So far the only problem I've had is that blue items can only stack up to 5 in our inventory, and I suspect the green items have a low stack limit as well.

It seems I can only sell ~8k of items to the fence each day (and you can't put them in bank or mail to friends). As a result, my inventory has been completely full with stolen goods for the past few days.

I may need to delete all the blue items to make room for the properly stacking white items.

Let me be specific, I love this PART of Justice as is but I DEFINETLY want to see the next phase of it...

I don't hate it at all but I don't choose to participate. Lots of others, including my husband, really enjoy it.

After playing as an "outlaw" for a week, I observed the following:

• blue stolen items stack up to 5, green stack up to 20 and white stolen items stack up to 100, as a result if you steal a lot, your inventory quickly becomes filled with many more stolen items than you can sell to the fence
• since we can only sell a limited number of items to the fence each day, it is best to delete all white items and collect only blues or greens
• when grouped with other players, they are able to collect loot and receive XP from NPCs I kill, without getting a bounty (perhaps this is intended, since all the witnesses are dead when they loot the body?)
• outlaws have very limited access to guild traders, only the ones in Coldharbour and outlaw refuges
• it is a bit challenging to sneak your way from the wayshrine past multiple guards to the respec shrine in Mournhold
• some towns have an outlaw refuge right next to the wayshrine (Rawl'Kha), while others require more sneaking to reach the entrance (Mournhold)

I would like to see dailies from the safe den where I have to go assassinate NPCs in the town without getting caught. Maybe a token system from the dailies where I can save up and buy crap I do not really need.

I don't think they should add more to the Justice system. Now the system is similar to what it's in single playerv TES games and that's what people have been asking for.

For me there is very little difference between what I did one year ago and today, you loot some trunks in a place noone see you like on a boat, relog and loot again. Same sh*t new wrapping. You make some more gold from selling stolen junk.

I think few people would be involved with the additional justice system, it's too much resources on a system for the few. They need to sort out the major things in the game.

I fail to see any long time benefit of this.
Sure, it may be fun for a week or two sneaking around trying to steal stuff... but for what? This gets old very fast.

What I really do like is some NPC reactions to crime...
female Bosmer voice: "Dont let that ugly skeever get away!"
Priceless! Totally love it.

Note to self: next time you play Seaside Sanctuary, do not fight the enemy. If you must though, know that at one point you'll find that there are Sea Vipers fighting Dominion soldiers. Do not interfere. One wrong arrow, one wrong siphoning and you have a 146 bounty and will need to kill the Dominion soldier as well. Also watch out for individual Sea Vipers, as behind them, there may be individual Dominion soldiers. Kill the Sea Viper but press the mouse or '2' key one too many times and another Dominion soldier needs to be killed at a new bounty of 146 gold.

Plus it just takes too long to wait out such bounty in the Abandoned Temple.

Sigh.

Oh and what's up with that one backpack at the abandoned temple that isn't just 'pick', but 'steal'?

I was surprised that such a major new system got introduced without any major bug!
Had lots of fun levelling the Legerdemain skill line.
Many interesting things to find and discover.
Feels really exciting because you take an actual risk and can lose something.
In general, I think it's aimed more at mid and high level characters (for new characters the bounties can become a problem and they don't have the skill points to invest yet).

If I had to point out a negative I would say that the long loading screens when entering or leaving an outlaw refuge can be a bit of a penalty/annoying. Also, the travel to player option doesn't work anymore when your character is in a refuge and dungeon difficulty cannot be changed anymore by the group leader when any character in the group is in a refuge.
Also, since each refuge is organized differently and many NPCs share the same icons you see on banners (guild traders and merchants have the same balance icon and it seems the white outlaw icon can pretty much stand for anything and not just fences) it can be hard to find the NPCs you're looking for.
Oh, and it's a shame stolen clothes have no item category and can't be sold in the guild store.

Edit: One more thing: Items that you can steal by pressing E once without any confirmation like (foods and drinks or armor and weapons that are not in containers but lay just there for you to pick them up) can lead to accidental bounties. This can be a bit annoying. There is some kind of sword right next to a guild trader in Belkarth, for example, and I think I've already received a bounty twice there when I just wanted to speak to the trader but in the last split-second my cursor suddenly changed to "Steal" instead of "Talk to" and I had already pressed E.

Here is what I find stupid about the Justice system as is.

The story goes through this whole discussion about how daedra and soulshriven become goo and reform as rationale for how you come back to life should you die.

So got it, if I die, I go through warm liquid goo phase and eventually reform.

Now everyone respawns. So unless the majority of nirn are soulshriven as well then the rationale becomes "uh... a wizard did it..."

When I heard about assassinations, I posted a feedback that the best place for that and other nonsensical stuff would be the Shivering Isles.

Could have a narrowed down 2 faction PvP to fit in with the light and dark side. The people and rules are bonkers by nature, so that would make random stabbings make more "sense."

Basically, Shivering Isles could be the "Vegas" area so to speak and not raise questions like. "The former hero just slaughtered half of Wayrest, shouldn't we lock them up for the rest of their unnatural life instead of a fine? Last time we fined them they just did the same thing."

Justice system as of now is "Meh".

Why do I think this? Well, the justice system, and NPC's could have been just like the other TES games, where guards could be killed, and only certain NPC's would have a crown over them, being non-killable Npc's. The way it's setup seems... Broken. Don't get me wrong, of course it's nice to have guards around, but unless players are able to kill players within towns and outside of towns in the open world, doesn't having guards seem kind of pointless? Sure, one can steal, kill Npc's, and become an outlaw, but guards are supposed to "Protect" people, and ensure some type of safe zone, at least speaking "Mmorpg" wise.

Let's take a look at a personal favorite mmorpg of mine; Lineage 2. This mmorpg had a justice system too, only the guards were in town to protect people, from Pkers, or other players that meant you harm, or killed Npc's just for fun. These guards could be killed, but there'd be "X" amount around the towns/cities, that trying to break your way in would require a considerable amount of effort, time, and people in order to do so. In my mind this is what "Guards" should really be like.

Of course speaking from the TES single player games, the justice system is fine, again, it's still flawed though, in the manner you're not actually able to kill the guards. Again, the guard system is fine, and they're pretty easy to escape, or so I find myself. But it just doesn't feel like being "Bad", is rewarding enough when it comes to this game. I mean, I'm still pretty much able to do everything before hand I'm able to if I just don't kill, and or steal stuff.

Another thing I noticed is that, it seems when you kill Npc's, the guards immediately attack you, opposed to just theft, and having the exact same bounty rating. Shouldn't the guards stop you and make you pay a fine for attacking/killing npc's, and only attack you should your bounty be high enough?

Long story short; Justice system could be improved, as it stands now, I see no reason to go through the trouble, or "thrill" of being "bad". Justice system feels watered down.