Vile Na server zone chat

eventide03b14a_ESO · March 2015

Psychobunni wrote: »

Carafina34 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

I dont think swearing in zone chat deserves a report. You gave a profanity filter, an ignore button, and the ability to turn off zone chat for a reason.

I agree, however it was the repeated use of the term ment to belittle a group of people if someone was saying [snip] EVERY OTHER SENTANCE THAT WOULD GET JUMPED ON KINDA QUICK SO i DONT SEE WHY USING AN OFFENSIVE TERM TO DESCRIBE WOMEN IS OK. srry caps

I agree with you, however...gamergate ...we are still fighting the battle

I've seen some pretty nasty comments targeted at gays too so I get where you guys are coming from, but you can't let them get to you. It's not worth it.

Nestor · March 2015

Carafina34 wrote: »

Is zone chat awful everywhere or just on ep?

When I said then I would be forced to report it I was told I would get banned for misuse of the report button!

You won't be banned for reporting a twit.

It comes and goes. Most of the time, the chat is benign and topical to the game, or just people shooting the breeze about something. Every once in a while, you get one or two tards who think they are cool by talking trash about whatever. Put those few on ignore and then you don't have to worry about seeing what they type out anymore. I remember one night people going on about politics, and not in the constructive way, but the Yahoo Comments way. It was gone the next night when I went back to that zone. So, the idiots tend to move on or shrivel up if no one pays attention to them.

Also, you can have different chat channels. I have one for Zone/Everything and then one for Guilds, one for Groups and one for just Say/Tell/Yell. Usually this is because Zone Chat gets spammed up with Guild Ads or WTS. Fortunately most of the crud goes away after the first zone. However this way I can pay attention to what I want to or need to and not see the other stuff.

Xendyn · March 2015

Just profanity is one thing...I figure those that can't communicate without using F*** every other word simply lack the wit to do so and if it's annoying just put them on ignore.

Comments targeting a specific population continuously, whether it is race, gender or orientation will get reported Then put on ignore.

And no, ZOS will not consider that abuse of the report option, unless maybe you spam them with it.

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

I dont think swearing in zone chat deserves a report. You gave a profanity filter, an ignore button, and the ability to turn off zone chat for a reason.

It still deserves a report.

I swear quite regularly among my friends. Doesn't mean I run down the street yelling profanities.

No it doesnt deserve a report. If someone says something you dont like you have many options to remove those statements from your view.

Yes, and you can still report the person for violating the chat rules. Your ability to ignore their immaturity doesn't grant them free license to break those rules.

I'm pretty sure swearing in zone chat is NOT against the rules. And why should it be when you have an ignore button, a profanity filter, and the ability to turn of zone chat.

I'm pretty sure it is. The CoC for the forums and in-game chat rules are almost entirely identical.

So stop trying to offer up excuses for immature rudeness. This is something that can and should be reported. The community gets better for it.

This is false...stop trying to make others think the way you do. Swearing in game IS NOT against the rules, the proof is in the pudding, the profanity filter and the ignore feature are proof of this. Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

phairdon · March 2015

Profanity from players in this game is on the low end of the scale. Plays Gw2 as well. Once said 'bugger' in zone chat which is slang for 'oh darn it', a player threatened to report me for using the word, and you can report people for swearing.
Hope you never player any first person shooters as foul language in chat is commonplace & extremely vile at times.

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO · March 2015

gurgnir wrote: »

Switching off zone chat isn't a fair resolution when you're encountering abuse and insults. You were right to challenge him/her/them. Just because it(abuse) happens, doesn't make the behaviour acceptable. Switching off zone chat implies that you're in the wrong for being offended and that you should withdraw from zone chat to allow this person to continue acting without respect.

Why should you have to run around with one less social feature in the game, when it's others who can't behave respectably?

Completely with you on this.

/ignore....working as intended...no need to turn off chat. What do you do in the real world when your hear vulgar/ absuive language do you cover your ears and ignore the world ? Or do you simple ignore the one using said language ? The latter of these two is obviously the most logical.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · March 2015

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Use the report button for inappropriate speech. Trolls love to pretend that you'll get banned for "misusing" it.

And use your ignore function. Far more effective than engaging with the pre-pubescent boys who find this kind of thing funny.

agree, i keep my chat on all the time, if someone is particularly annoying i just ignore that single person.

BBSooner · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

I dont think swearing in zone chat deserves a report. You gave a profanity filter, an ignore button, and the ability to turn off zone chat for a reason.

It still deserves a report.

I swear quite regularly among my friends. Doesn't mean I run down the street yelling profanities.

No it doesnt deserve a report. If someone says something you dont like you have many options to remove those statements from your view.

Yes, and you can still report the person for violating the chat rules. Your ability to ignore their immaturity doesn't grant them free license to break those rules.

I'm pretty sure swearing in zone chat is NOT against the rules. And why should it be when you have an ignore button, a profanity filter, and the ability to turn of zone chat.

I'm pretty sure it is. The CoC for the forums and in-game chat rules are almost entirely identical.

So stop trying to offer up excuses for immature rudeness. This is something that can and should be reported. The community gets better for it.

This is false...stop trying to make others think the way you do. Swearing in game IS NOT against the rules, the proof is in the pudding, the profanity filter and the ignore feature are proof of this. Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

I'm indifferent to whether or not swearing should/n't be allowed in game ... but just to clarify: you don't have freedom of speech in game. Does not exist.

UrQuan · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say whatever you want (with some restrictions: there are always restrictions) without government censorship or retribution. Period.

If you play in a private playground, freedom of speech doesn't apply in that playground. The owners of that playground can put whatever restrictions they want on what people can and cannot say, and can punish people who don't follow the rules by banning them from the playground, or otherwise restricting what they can do in the playground.

Islyn · March 2015

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

Rated "M" for mature. I personally don't say vile stuff in zone chat, but I realize peoples morals and personalities are different. I try not to push my values on others and start reporting people if they don't fall into what I consider socially correct. Perhaps turn on profanity filter or ignore chat?

Since when does 'Mature' equate to acting like a brat?

Also if we are using Mature card here then no one who acts opposite to that should be allowed. If 'M' is taken to the letter then please do ban all children as they are for the most part, the ones who do this.

Some things mature, others rot.

Nestor · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Just pointing out that the First Amendment does not apply to businesses or private spaces, which a game server is. This would only apply if the government was running the game servers and tried to restrict speech.

A private entity can create a space and place rules of behavior on that space that they deem appropriate. Your Freedom is to join up and follow the rules or walk away.

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

thelordoffelines wrote: »

I dont think swearing in zone chat deserves a report. You gave a profanity filter, an ignore button, and the ability to turn off zone chat for a reason.

It still deserves a report.

I swear quite regularly among my friends. Doesn't mean I run down the street yelling profanities.

No it doesnt deserve a report. If someone says something you dont like you have many options to remove those statements from your view.

Yes, and you can still report the person for violating the chat rules. Your ability to ignore their immaturity doesn't grant them free license to break those rules.

I'm pretty sure swearing in zone chat is NOT against the rules. And why should it be when you have an ignore button, a profanity filter, and the ability to turn of zone chat.

I'm pretty sure it is. The CoC for the forums and in-game chat rules are almost entirely identical.

So stop trying to offer up excuses for immature rudeness. This is something that can and should be reported. The community gets better for it.

This is false...stop trying to make others think the way you do. Swearing in game IS NOT against the rules, the proof is in the pudding, the profanity filter and the ignore feature are proof of this. Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Let me be very clear:

I don't have a problem with profanity in and of itself. And I'm not trying to be the thought police. This has jack-squat to do with freedom of speech and everything to do with the rules that you agreed to abide by when you signed in to the game. Your refusal to read and understand that contract does not invalidate it.

This is ZO's playground. They make the rules. And the rules say no profanity in global chat, regardless of whether or not people can filter it.

eventide03b14a_ESO · March 2015

Nestor wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Just pointing out that the First Amendment does not apply to businesses or private spaces, which a game server is. This would only apply if the government was running the game servers and tried to restrict speech.

A private entity can create a space and place rules of behavior on that space that they deem appropriate. Your Freedom is to join up and follow the rules or walk away.

People are often confused by the First Amendment. They don't realize it only protects against the government inhibiting speech, not private organizations.

Alphashado · March 2015

Low level zone chat is always terrible and it's nothing new to MMOs. I harken back to Horde Barrens chat in WoW. Don't try to reason with them. You are likely talking to a child or a drunk immature young adult. Just ignore/report them and move on. Take a screenshot if need be. It's an option when reporting something.

thelordoffelines · March 2015

Islyn wrote: »

deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »

Rated "M" for mature. I personally don't say vile stuff in zone chat, but I realize peoples morals and personalities are different. I try not to push my values on others and start reporting people if they don't fall into what I consider socially correct. Perhaps turn on profanity filter or ignore chat?

Since when does 'Mature' equate to acting like a brat?

Also if we are using Mature card here then no one who acts opposite to that should be allowed. If 'M' is taken to the letter then please do ban all children as they are for the most part, the ones who do this.

Some things mature, others rot.

Hes saying people like you should be mature and ignore them. Someone else stated here that people have different morals and one person doing something that you disagree with does not deserve a report. If something someone does in a game bothers you that much maybe you shouldn't be playing online games or be online at all.

(prejudice and harrasment being the only exception and it looks like OPs case was more in those categories).

Carafina34 · March 2015

I'm EU no first amendment for me, however I like everyone else on ESO agreed to TOS which says no profanity/ discriminatory comments in global chat (paraphrasing).

Teargrants · March 2015

Getting so worked up over what some random ppl say in /zone? Bruh, do you even interwebz?
Just laugh and get on with life.

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO · March 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say whatever you want (with some restrictions: there are always restrictions) without government censorship or retribution. Period.

If you play in a private playground, freedom of speech doesn't apply in that playground. The owners of that playground can put whatever restrictions they want on what people can and cannot say, and can punish people who don't follow the rules by banning them from the playground, or otherwise restricting what they can do in the playground.

It's the concept, and it should be applied to all playgrounds real or virtual. The rules have been set by the owner, they have even given us tools to manage this playground. Freedom of speech is given to the player by the developers and should be respected by the players. I would understand more if this was wizard 101 which is full of minors, but this is a mature rated game, so it comes with the territory. In the end ZoS being an American company should understand and sympathize, and I feel they do because we been given the tools to manage this playground.

Psychobunni · March 2015

Freedom of speech is not to be confused with freedumb of speech. The moment you clicked the "I agree" box you agreed to all ZOS rules. End story.

@Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO I have found in my ripe old age of 34...I have no objection to telling someone face to face when they are being rude, childish, bullyish, etc...sometimes to the embarrassment of my teenagers when in public. The world real or fantasy is what you make it, if you stand idly by and accept it, you are no better than those doing it.

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say whatever you want (with some restrictions: there are always restrictions) without government censorship or retribution. Period.

If you play in a private playground, freedom of speech doesn't apply in that playground. The owners of that playground can put whatever restrictions they want on what people can and cannot say, and can punish people who don't follow the rules by banning them from the playground, or otherwise restricting what they can do in the playground.

It's the concept, and it should be applied to all playgrounds real or virtual. The rules have been set by the owner, they have even given us tools to manage this playground. Freedom of speech is given to the player by the developers and should be respected by the players. I would understand more if this was wizard 101 which is full of minors, but this is a mature rated game, so it comes with the territory. In the end ZoS being an American company should understand and sympathize, and I feel they do because we been given the tools to manage this playground.

And yet they still have a very clear set of rules about how you play nicely with others. And that's why there's a report system for inappropriate chat.

Freedom of speech is limited to the government's ability to restrict your speech. And no, companies that don't want to promote an atmosphere of trolling and harassment should not extend the same courtesy to their customers. There are other public forums that you can use for hateful, offensive, or otherwise inappropriate speech. This is not one of them.

UrQuan · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say whatever you want (with some restrictions: there are always restrictions) without government censorship or retribution. Period.

If you play in a private playground, freedom of speech doesn't apply in that playground. The owners of that playground can put whatever restrictions they want on what people can and cannot say, and can punish people who don't follow the rules by banning them from the playground, or otherwise restricting what they can do in the playground.

It's the concept, and it should be applied to all playgrounds real or virtual. The rules have been set by the owner, they have even given us tools to manage this playground. Freedom of speech is given to the player by the developers and should be respected by the players. I would understand more if this was wizard 101 which is full of minors, but this is a mature rated game, so it comes with the territory. In the end ZoS being an American company should understand and sympathize, and I feel they do because we been given the tools to manage this playground.

No. It really shouldn't. The government shouldn't have any right to prevent you from being a ***, but if you're being a *** in a private playground and making things not fun for other people using that private playground, the owners of that private playground should have every right to say that they're not going to let you keep being a *** in their playground. If they don't have that right, then they're going to lose revenue because all of the people who don't want to play in a playground with *** will go away.

Panda244 · March 2015

Ignore them. Or go into your settings and turn off zone chat, every Alliance has these people, it's more common in lower level areas but it doesn't matter what Alliance you roll, every one will be filled with the occasional cussing jack ass. As far as reporting goes, you can't get in trouble for "misusing" it. But reporting someone for swearing is stupid, in the case of derogatory terms towards women, or yourself, then you can use report. But if someone is just expressing anger or sarcasm with curse words and you report them, it's silly. Just use the profanity filter or turn off zone chat like I do, once you get into a good guild zone chat becomes obsolete.

Carafina34 · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say whatever you want (with some restrictions: there are always restrictions) without government censorship or retribution. Period.

If you play in a private playground, freedom of speech doesn't apply in that playground. The owners of that playground can put whatever restrictions they want on what people can and cannot say, and can punish people who don't follow the rules by banning them from the playground, or otherwise restricting what they can do in the playground.

It's the concept, and it should be applied to all playgrounds real or virtual. The rules have been set by the owner, they have even given us tools to manage this playground. Freedom of speech is given to the player by the developers and should be respected by the players. I would understand more if this was wizard 101 which is full of minors, but this is a mature rated game, so it comes with the territory. In the end ZoS being an American company should understand and sympathize, and I feel they do because we been given the tools to manage this playground.

So if I respect their right to call me a B***H coz i do not have an extra leg, then dont I have a right to be respected in turn for finding it offensive when someone calls my sex a derogatory term. I wouldnt accept it in the real world, no court would accept it (sexual discrimination), so why would I accept it in a pixilated game.

In the real world i could walk away, kinda like mute, but i would still say something, or report it if the person persisted after explaining I found it offensive and insensitive.
And don't try to tell me in the real world in the states that sexual discrimination is allowed, coz it aint.

Hypertionb14_ESO · March 2015

power through it..

once you are at least out of the second major zone, chat clears out most of the stupid.

WraithAzraiel · March 2015

WTB a larger Ignore list.

Akselmo · March 2015

Ignore and/or report, but only if they act like immature fools.

That's really all you can do.

Anyway, I haven't seen much stupidity in EU zone chat.. But it's annoying when people keep spamming stuff in german and french even they have their own zone chats. I thought main zone chat was english only.
But in the end, I don't really read it anyway, since there's rarely much else than "[german guild] is recruiting whoa"

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO · March 2015

Carafina34 wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say whatever you want (with some restrictions: there are always restrictions) without government censorship or retribution. Period.

If you play in a private playground, freedom of speech doesn't apply in that playground. The owners of that playground can put whatever restrictions they want on what people can and cannot say, and can punish people who don't follow the rules by banning them from the playground, or otherwise restricting what they can do in the playground.

It's the concept, and it should be applied to all playgrounds real or virtual. The rules have been set by the owner, they have even given us tools to manage this playground. Freedom of speech is given to the player by the developers and should be respected by the players. I would understand more if this was wizard 101 which is full of minors, but this is a mature rated game, so it comes with the territory. In the end ZoS being an American company should understand and sympathize, and I feel they do because we been given the tools to manage this playground.

So if I respect their right to call me a B***H coz i do not have an extra leg, then dont I have a right to be respected in turn for finding it offensive when someone calls my sex a derogatory term. I wouldnt accept it in the real world, no court would accept it (sexual discrimination), so why would I accept it in a pixilated game.

In the real world i could walk away, kinda like mute, but i would still say something, or report it if the person persisted after explaining I found it offensive and insensitive.
And don't try to tell me in the real world in the states that sexual discrimination is allowed, coz it aint.

Your missing the point. You have every right to be offended just as they person in zone chat has every right to say what they want. You have all the options available to you to deal with the situation. You can send them a whisper voicing your opinion, you can slash ignore them, you can report them, what you don't have the right to do is prevent others from saying what they are going to say. I completely agree that ZoS has the right to police their game any way they would like, no one is arguing that point. Report them and let ZoS deem if they need to bring the ban hammer or not. But people are trying to take matters into their own hands here, telling other subscribers what is acceptable and what is not. You have ever right to voice your concern and speak your mind. Go ahead and flame that troll in zone chat, use wit to beat them at their own game. But by the nine do not add more restrictions to the limited freedom of speech we have already.

nerevarine1138 · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Carafina34 wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say whatever you want (with some restrictions: there are always restrictions) without government censorship or retribution. Period.

If you play in a private playground, freedom of speech doesn't apply in that playground. The owners of that playground can put whatever restrictions they want on what people can and cannot say, and can punish people who don't follow the rules by banning them from the playground, or otherwise restricting what they can do in the playground.

It's the concept, and it should be applied to all playgrounds real or virtual. The rules have been set by the owner, they have even given us tools to manage this playground. Freedom of speech is given to the player by the developers and should be respected by the players. I would understand more if this was wizard 101 which is full of minors, but this is a mature rated game, so it comes with the territory. In the end ZoS being an American company should understand and sympathize, and I feel they do because we been given the tools to manage this playground.

So if I respect their right to call me a B***H coz i do not have an extra leg, then dont I have a right to be respected in turn for finding it offensive when someone calls my sex a derogatory term. I wouldnt accept it in the real world, no court would accept it (sexual discrimination), so why would I accept it in a pixilated game.

In the real world i could walk away, kinda like mute, but i would still say something, or report it if the person persisted after explaining I found it offensive and insensitive.
And don't try to tell me in the real world in the states that sexual discrimination is allowed, coz it aint.

Your missing the point. You have every right to be offended just as they person in zone chat has every right to say what they want. You have all the options available to you to deal with the situation. You can send them a whisper voicing your opinion, you can slash ignore them, you can report them, what you don't have the right to do is prevent others from saying what they are going to say. I completely agree that ZoS has the right to police their game any way they would like, no one is arguing that point. Report them and let ZoS deem if they need to bring the ban hammer or not. But people are trying to take matters into their own hands here, telling other subscribers what is acceptable and what is not. You have ever right to voice your concern and speak your mind. Go ahead and flame that troll in zone chat, use wit to beat them at their own game. But by the nine do not add more restrictions to the limited freedom of speech we have already.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

Do not flame or troll in zone chat. Those are bannable offenses.

What you have been repeatedly ignoring here is that there are clearly defined rules for chat that ZO enforces. You can always break those rules, but you cannot escape the consequences of breaking them.

No one here is creating their own arbitrary standards. We're specifically referencing the rules that the developers have given us.

BBSooner · March 2015

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Carafina34 wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Cervanteseric85ub17_ESO wrote: »

Fact of the matter is I believe in freedom of speech, maybe because I'm American, but restricting what people say is not a good thing, giving up personal freedoms for a more political correct world is a completely backwards and archaic way of thinking. Just my 2 cents.

Freedom of speech is about the ability to say whatever you want (with some restrictions: there are always restrictions) without government censorship or retribution. Period.

If you play in a private playground, freedom of speech doesn't apply in that playground. The owners of that playground can put whatever restrictions they want on what people can and cannot say, and can punish people who don't follow the rules by banning them from the playground, or otherwise restricting what they can do in the playground.

It's the concept, and it should be applied to all playgrounds real or virtual. The rules have been set by the owner, they have even given us tools to manage this playground. Freedom of speech is given to the player by the developers and should be respected by the players. I would understand more if this was wizard 101 which is full of minors, but this is a mature rated game, so it comes with the territory. In the end ZoS being an American company should understand and sympathize, and I feel they do because we been given the tools to manage this playground.

So if I respect their right to call me a B***H coz i do not have an extra leg, then dont I have a right to be respected in turn for finding it offensive when someone calls my sex a derogatory term. I wouldnt accept it in the real world, no court would accept it (sexual discrimination), so why would I accept it in a pixilated game.

In the real world i could walk away, kinda like mute, but i would still say something, or report it if the person persisted after explaining I found it offensive and insensitive.
And don't try to tell me in the real world in the states that sexual discrimination is allowed, coz it aint.

Your missing the point. You have every right to be offended just as they person in zone chat has every right to say what they want. You have all the options available to you to deal with the situation. You can send them a whisper voicing your opinion, you can slash ignore them, you can report them, what you don't have the right to do is prevent others from saying what they are going to say. I completely agree that ZoS has the right to police their game any way they would like, no one is arguing that point. Report them and let ZoS deem if they need to bring the ban hammer or not. But people are trying to take matters into their own hands here, telling other subscribers what is acceptable and what is not. You have ever right to voice your concern and speak your mind. Go ahead and flame that troll in zone chat, use wit to beat them at their own game. But by the nine do not add more restrictions to the limited freedom of speech we have already.

Your statements appear to conflict with eachother:

You can send them a whisper voicing your opinion, you can slash ignore them, you can report them ... I completely agree that ZoS has the right to police their game any way they would like ...

and ...

... stop trying to make others think the way you do. Swearing in game IS NOT against the rules ...

Swearing is against the ToS (players can recieve a 72 hour suspension for language), and in your most recent statement you acknowledge reporting them for moderation is a valid response. Yet you began the thread saying the second quote.

Also, in regards to:

But people are trying to take matters into their own hands here, telling other subscribers what is acceptable and what is not.

The only players doing this are the ones who are asserting that swearing 1.) isn't against TOS, and 2.) is ok to do because of the filter (which isn't a license to swear any more than somebody wearing a bullet proof vest being a license to shoot them).

Naor_Sarethi · March 2015

EU chat is clean.
Apart from the occasional friendly racewar. Bosmer are hippies and Argonians are stoners. You can't deny that.