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should ZOS change the Champion System grind to make it quicker?
Vaelen
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should ZOS change the Champion System grind to make it quicker? 154 votes
Yes, the CP grind currently takes almost 10 years to complete! Increase the exp rate so the grind goes faster!
16%
26 votes
Yes, it's too grindy for casuals who can't play this game full time. Make it so that daily quests in certain areas can give around 200k exp each for completing them to reduce the grind for casuals!
7%
12 votes
Yes, just sell exp boost pots in the crown store to make it buy2win! It will reduce the grind for those with more $$$.
3%
5 votes
Yes, but do something else not listed here....
7%
11 votes
No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!
64%
100 votes
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crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!A poll with 75% of the answer being on one side isn't fair.
CP is a time sink, a necessity for any MMO, making it quick serve no purpose.Edited by crislevin on March 18, 2015 11:37PM7 -
runagate✭✭✭✭✭
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Other: the speed of the CP acquisition isn't so much a problem as the lack of non-boring things to do to get said points. Grinding is being taken up by those who've never done it because you can't really force 11 other people to do AA with you 15 times in a row in a day.
At least once you reach 90 CP you can relax until the really dedicated grinder-monies get up to about 300 CP, at which point you'll have fallen behind for the "pick me pick me" process of getting into speedrun endgame Trials and such.
Here is a monkey and organ grinder image to cheer your day, though:
Edited by runagate on March 18, 2015 11:39PM1 -
Vaelen✭✭✭Other: the speed of the CP acquisition isn't so much a problem as the lack of non-boring things to do to get said points. Grinding is being taken up by those who've never done it because you can't really force 11 other people to do AA with you 15 times in a row in a day.
At least once you reach 90 CP you can relax until the really dedicated grinder-monies get up to about 300 CP, at which point you'll have fallen behind for the "pick me pick me" process of getting into speedrun endgame Trials and such.
Here is a monkey and organ grinder image to cheer your day, though:
Yep, and then it will eventually become this in Rawlkha and Craglorn: LFM Sanctum of Ophidia, must be CR 300+ Only!. They probably already have addons that will let you see how many champion points another player has, and if not yet, they will soon.1 -
ArconSeptim✭✭✭✭Yes, the CP grind currently takes almost 10 years to complete! Increase the exp rate so the grind goes faster!
No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!
Must have been cheese...0 -
Ley✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!I think it's fine, only thing I'd consider changing is exp gain variation over different activities. To balance it out so that questing, trials, dungeons and pvp give about the same amount of CP experience.
I don't think people should be able to max out their CP in a few months. If everyone had maxed out CP then there would be no point in the system, no meaningful decisions to make regarding your character build.Leylith - MagSorc | Leyloth - StamPlar | Leynerd - MagPlar | Leylit - StamBlade | Ley Eviticus - StamDK | Leydor - MagDen | Leylum - StamSorc | Leylux - MagBlade0 -
Vaelen✭✭✭But for now, ZOS wants us to do this:
cdn.sheknows.com/articles/crave/grinding_teeth.jpgI think it's fine, only thing I'd consider changing is exp gain variation over different activities. To balance it out so that questing, trials, dungeons and pvp give about the same amount of CP experience.
I don't think people should be able to max out their CP in a few months. If everyone had maxed out CP then there would be no point in the system, no meaningful decisions to make regarding your character build.
I think I got about 10-20k exp from doing a trials run, unenlightened. What a nice waste of time after wiping hard on last boss. quests give like 30k exp. and currently mobs in vr10 areas give 5k exp per group.0 -
Vaelen✭✭✭I'm just saying something should be done about it, but I would vote yes on any of the proposals, except keeping the system the same.0
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Natjur✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!The cap of 3600 was never designed to be reached. But 360 was about where they want to see most players.1 -
Lava_Croft✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!Please no faster CP grind. Let's have some more fun before the entire game breaks down because of people with 3000 CP.0 -
Vaelen✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Please no faster CP grind. Let's have some more fun before the entire game breaks down because of people with 3000 CP.
Try running Sanctum, Vet CoA, or Vet DSA and let me know how fun it is without 300+ CPs.0 -
crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!Lava_Croft wrote: »Please no faster CP grind. Let's have some more fun before the entire game breaks down because of people with 3000 CP.
Try running Sanctum, Vet CoA, or Vet DSA and let me know how fun it is without 300+ CPs.
so? ESO != Sactum+Vet dungeon.1 -
Vaelen✭✭✭Lava_Croft wrote: »Please no faster CP grind. Let's have some more fun before the entire game breaks down because of people with 3000 CP.
Try running Sanctum, Vet CoA, or Vet DSA and let me know how fun it is without 300+ CPs.
so? ESO != Sactum+Vet dungeon.
= Endgame content, it does, my young padawan...0 -
crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!Lava_Croft wrote: »Please no faster CP grind. Let's have some more fun before the entire game breaks down because of people with 3000 CP.
Try running Sanctum, Vet CoA, or Vet DSA and let me know how fun it is without 300+ CPs.
so? ESO != Sactum+Vet dungeon.
= Endgame content, it does, my young padawan...
you are assuming there is an "endgame" and most people actually care about it......3 -
Exstazik✭✭✭✭Yes, but do something else not listed here....10%-mara rings
10%-party bomus
10%-subcribe bonus
~10% PvP bonus
So totally 40% boost +don't forget about Exp_Potion (i think it's around 10% more).Total:1,5 faster.....1 hour of grind(if no one don't steal exp=1 cp without boost).If you play 2 hour per day:15 min=1ccp with "E"+105 min grind with boost ~2-2,5 CP
I think it's ok to got ~3-3,5 CP per day0 -
Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!I've yet to encounter a problem, I'm crossing the 100cp mark here tonight and haven't really felt there was much to worry about.0 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!I've decided that in the future, for every clearly biased poll I am going to always choose the option that the op is clearly biased against just to screw with the results.
Although in this case I also happen to agree with the choice I made.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes, the CP grind currently takes almost 10 years to complete! Increase the exp rate so the grind goes faster!If someone hadn't made this poll, I would have posted it myself... 10 years is RIDICULOUS!
1) The "Enlightenment" mechanic needs to go away. Why would you want to discourage players from playing?!
2) They need to increase the rate of CP gain to about 2 per hour, EVERY hour you grind, so someone playing an average 5 hours a day can hit max level in about a year.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
bloodenragedb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Yes, but do something else not listed here....just a tad faster would work for me honestly, maybe a lower cap on the perk abilities0
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Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!you are assuming there is an "endgame" and most people actually care about it......
This. Endgame requirements should not dictate the mechanics for every veteran level player in the game.1 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!bias poll is bias...V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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LtCrunch✭✭✭✭✭
✭The word "grind" is in your poll, I refuse to vote in it because it's biased simply by including that word. You obviously don't understand the intention of the champion system or it's actual impact on character development.NerdSauce GamingLaughs-At-Wounds - Sap tanking since 03/30/14ßrandalf - Light armor tanking since 03/03/15Brandalf Beer-Belly - Tanking drunk since 12/30/160 -
Imryll✭✭✭✭✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!Make it quicker so that folks can complain that there's nothing left for them to do to develop their characters? I think the system is a time bomb, but at least it's currently a time bomb with a purpose.Edited by Imryll on March 19, 2015 2:12AM0
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Avindra✭✭Yes, the CP grind currently takes almost 10 years to complete! Increase the exp rate so the grind goes faster!10%-mara rings
10%-party bomus
10%-subcribe bonus
~10% PvP bonus
So totally 40% boost +don't forget about Exp_Potion (i think it's around 10% more).Total:1,5 faster.....1 hour of grind(if no one don't steal exp=1 cp without boost).If you play 2 hour per day:15 min=1ccp with "E"+105 min grind with boost ~2-2,5 CP
I think it's ok to got ~3-3,5 CP per day
Atleast it will only take 3 years to get them all.
To be honest most players wont be playing ESO by then, they would have all left for more rewarding games.
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✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!This one is glad it is sooooo very long. It is not the ending destination (3600 Cp) but the Journey that is important
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maryriv✭✭✭✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!I went with the best answer although there should be an option to stop exploiting grinders from capping CP in a few months or at least bring questing up to the grinding level.0
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Thymos✭✭✭✭✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!Was this what you were expecting from this poll? Majority not agreeing with the completely biased poll?Edited by Thymos on March 19, 2015 2:44AMThe Older Gamers Recruitment Thread
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theweakminded✭✭✭Yes, but do something else not listed here....Get rid of the *** Vet Rank system and I would have no problem whatsoever with champ system.0
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Tanaka_Khan✭✭✭No, keep the Champion system grind the way it is, 10 years isn't that long to cap it out, in fact some players can do it in less than 3 years by playing ESO full-time 24/7!I look at the Champion points as a treat. I go out, play the game and have fun, and if I get a CP...great!Edited by Tanaka_Khan on March 19, 2015 4:42AM3
