I don't expect to ever see 'expansion-sized' DLC, even before B2P ZOS had said they didn't expect to deliver 'traditional' expansion packs and given the B2P/Store model is largely about 'nickel-and-diming' (to use a cute saying our American friends have) then I expect a continual flow of small-scale DLC rather that large-scale efforts.

Pricing is anyone's guess, ZOS have refused to indicate what their plans are in that respect.

Enodoc wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

My guess is around 10,000 crowns for a large expansion sized DLC

Isn't that, like, $100? Personally I expect all DLC content to be around 1500-2000 Crowns (this is $15-$20 and about what you would pay for a standard-sized DLC on Xbox Live).

If mount cost 2,5k dont except DLC cost will be less then this lol

Yeah. 5.5k crowns is $40, I don't know how they can possibly sell DLC for more. I wouldn't pay even that. Then again, I wouldn't pay 20 bucks for a flaming pony... So what do I know?

Bloodystab wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

My guess is around 10,000 crowns for a large expansion sized DLC

Isn't that, like, $100? Personally I expect all DLC content to be around 1500-2000 Crowns (this is $15-$20 and about what you would pay for a standard-sized DLC on Xbox Live).

If mount cost 2,5k dont except DLC cost will be less then this lol

This is one part that confuses and intrigues me. Console gamers (generalized) won't pay more than $20 (roughly) for DLC.
So maybe we will get poor DLC, or they will try and make it seem like bigger DLC by including extra junk like unique pets, gear etc with poor quality DLC.
(I'm referring to DLC here as proper content such as DB, Imperial City etc)
I think they could push for $40 p/DLC if extra junk is included. How successful that would be, I'm unsure.
Quantity or quality?


maybe the flaming pony is a little more expensive to discourage everyone getting it. I'm sure the senche mounts will be the same. Could be to choose and stick with one mount that you personally like that best suits you. I'm ok with that. Unless it is just plain and simple money grabbing, in which case is sad, but it is business after all.

Troneon wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

My guess is around 10,000 crowns for a large expansion sized DLC

Isn't that, like, $100? Personally I expect all DLC content to be around 1500-2000 Crowns (this is $15-$20 and about what you would pay for a standard-sized DLC on Xbox Live).

Not sure where you getting your math from...

5500 Crowns is £23.99 which is roughly $34 and since they like to charge £50 for a relaunch of paid PC beta I figured 10,000 crowns for expansion like DLC can't be far off...

Given that I'm in Britain, it was extrapolation, based on 1500=£8.99. In the UK, sub=£8.99; in the US, sub=$14.99. This implies that 1500=$14.99, so 10,000=$99.93. I wasn't counting the discount you get for buying more crowns at once.

Bloodystab wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Troneon wrote: »

My guess is around 10,000 crowns for a large expansion sized DLC

Isn't that, like, $100? Personally I expect all DLC content to be around 1500-2000 Crowns (this is $15-$20 and about what you would pay for a standard-sized DLC on Xbox Live).

If mount cost 2,5k dont except DLC cost will be less then this lol

Is that Nightmare Courser? Didn't realise they were going that high with mounts. Still, ~$25 seems a bit high for a mount... based on Xbox Live prices I wouldn't want standard DLC to be any more than that, and as JoffyToffy69 says, console gamers would be less likely to pay it if it is more than that.

Anlaemar wrote: »

Are you saying you would rather the horse be cheap so everyone had one? Wouldn't be as unique, and Zeni wouldn't make good profit. It's cosmetic.

No, I'm saying I was surprised it's that much and that I hope they don't think DLC must therefore have to be more than that. Putting the price high for uniqueness and profit is fine; using it as a bench-mark to charge $30 for DLC is not.

Also, if DLC costs so much, just pay for ESO Plus. More expensive in the long run, but you won't have to fork out the 40-50$ you are assuming you'll have to for DLC. I'm sure it'll be 20$ or less. If not, I'll pay for sub.

I'd like to sub to ESO Plus, but I don't want my alts to outlevel all the content because they're getting 10% bonus XP. They are already 2 levels above recommended. For my Vet though, it's all good.

Typically it would depend on the proportionate size of the content to the game.

You'd also be hard pressed to charge more than 20% of the cost of the actual game. Usually it's a lot less than that, but there are notable exceptions for games that started as B2P but then later converted to F2P (looking at SWTOR and a few others...)

I'm personally holding off to see what they do to the game. I think the way things are going, it's going to be difficult for them to justify keeping it B2P if they do indeed set price points above 20% for DLC.

imo, it cant be more then the subscription rate... The sub gives you free download of the DLC. If they made the DLC cost more, then everyone would just sub for a month, get some benefits and get the DLC for cheap. imo, i think your looking at ~10-15 max. Unless they jack up the sub fee to like $25.

The $25 mount is for the whales. As for the DLC - well it depends on the content and frequency. Other F2P/B2P MMOs release extra dungeons, quests and other playable content as well as new items, etc fairly cheap ($15-$20 or even for free) and major expansion packs as a fairly major game overhaul with new zones, races, etc for $30-$40 or so.

Examples:

SWTOR sells it's latest DLC with increased level cap, new worlds and quest chains for $20.

The upcoming FFXIV xpac is getting new major zones, playable races, classes, level cap increase as well as flying mounts, which requires a fairly major redesign of the entire world. And this is selling for $40.

LOTRO sells major DLCs for $40, with new zones, etc, and minor DLC for $20 with new armour packs and quests (and these kind of suck).

I got the impression ZOS will be initially selling smaller intermediate updates as DLCs, and then maybe an xpac with new zones later. So my guess their prices would be similar to other MMOs. $20 for intermediate DLC, $40 for xpac/major DLC.

Mind you, the quality/quantity of ESO updates so far has been a bit lacklustre. I don't hold much hope for any minor DLCs being particularly content-rich. The major DLC/xpacs may add more, but let's hope they're not Craglorn quality. Yawn-eriffic.

aco5712 wrote: »

imo, it cant be more then the subscription rate... The sub gives you free download of the DLC. If they made the DLC cost more, then everyone would just sub for a month, get some benefits and get the DLC for cheap. imo, i think your looking at ~10-15 max. Unless they jack up the sub fee to like $25.

If u stop subs u loose all DLC, unless you buy it with crowns

Genomic wrote: »

The $25 mount is for the whales. As for the DLC - well it depends on the content and frequency. Other F2P/B2P MMOs release extra dungeons, quests and other playable content as well as new items, etc fairly cheap ($15-$20 or even for free) and major expansion packs as a fairly major game overhaul with new zones, races, etc for $30-$40 or so.

Examples:

SWTOR sells it's latest DLC with increased level cap, new worlds and quest chains for $20.

The upcoming FFXIV xpac is getting new major zones, playable races, classes, level cap increase as well as flying mounts, which requires a fairly major redesign of the entire world. And this is selling for $40.

LOTRO sells major DLCs for $40, with new zones, etc, and minor DLC for $20 with new armour packs and quests (and these kind of suck).

I got the impression ZOS will be initially selling smaller intermediate updates as DLCs, and then maybe an xpac with new zones later. So my guess their prices would be similar to other MMOs. $20 for intermediate DLC, $40 for xpac/major DLC.

Mind you, the quality/quantity of ESO updates so far has been a bit lacklustre. I don't hold much hope for any minor DLCs being particularly content-rich. The major DLC/xpacs may add more, but let's hope they're not Craglorn quality. Yawn-eriffic.

FFXIV won't have flying mounts in previous zones only the new ones so no major redesign ^^