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Why is there no 10% AP bonus for ESO Plus members?
LonePirate
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We're receiving a 10% bonus for XP, dropped gold, trait research and crafting inspiration. AP is glaringly absent from this list of bonuses. The P2W threshold has already crossed with the extra XP and gold. I can't think of any good reason why AP is not included as a bonus (although I can think of some explanations about why it isn't).
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✭✭✭✭Probably because AP directly translate to your position on the leaderboards, while XP and gold do not.19 -
I do not think AP should be added lest everyone get Vigor!!
But on a serious note with AP you are pitted agains the skill of fellow human beings so there should be a level playing field. With AP you can buy critical PVP "uitilities" that may allow you to capture a Keep, ie Catapults and Trebuchet. Etc.
I thnk it is fair that everyone earns AP at the same rate when participating in PVP.2 -
Zhoyzu✭✭✭✭✭at the very least we could get +10% currency AP for buying more siege'n'***Zhoyzu - Nightblade Alchemist (v15) RETIRED
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✭✭✭✭✭This was suggested before and I think ZOS said they may consider it. To make it work, all they would need to do is not apply the bonus to the leaderboard values. 10% boost to "Currency" AP (used to buy stuff) and "Experience" AP (used for the skill lines and rank advancement) would match the 10% boost to Gold, XP and Inspiration. It may be tricky for them to dissociate the leaderboards from the other parts though, which may be why we haven't seen it yet.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭✭✭✭No. Should stay out of PvP. I do not want my factions ability to even purchase siege to be decided on how many plus members we have let alone affect the score.3 -
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✭✭✭AP has to be earned the hard way, no room for cash babies. Move on.{★★★★★ · ★★★★★ · ★★ · ★★★★★}350m+ AP PC - EUAddons
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✭✭✭✭Because there's nothing ZoS could care less about than PvP.
At least, that's what their actions (or lack thereof) lead me to believe.Daggerfall Covenant
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I agree that's probably why they haven't done it. Would it work if they only did it for the "currency" and "progression" values of AP, and not the Leaderboard values?UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭✭The entire leaderboard issue is a minor one as the 10% bonus could easily be removed with regard to placement on it.
The larger issue is that ESO Plus membership is the latest instance of ZOS extending its middle finger to its PVP players. 10% more siege damage? No. 10% increase in battle levelling? No. 10% increase in gold included in Rewards for the Worthy emails? No. 10% increase in the end of campaign rewards? No. 10% AP discount from PVP vendors? No. 10% extra wall and door repair healing? No. Priority queues for entry into Cyrodiil? No.
So in addition to the lack of performance fixes and their refusal to release the Imperial City which allegedly was completed and demoed during the guild summit held on October 1-2, PVP was completely ignored when the ZOS brain trust established the ESO Plus membership benefits. It matters not to me if you do or do not think there should be a 10% AP gain increase included with the membership. However, I think we should all be outraged by ZOS not including any PVP related benefits within the ESO Plus membership rewards.
Edited by LonePirate on March 17, 2015 10:32PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭It's also 10% for CP xp gain, which isn't too bad
This.
It's the only PvP XP Buff we're going to see. Let's move along.
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✭AP ploxEdited by WraithAzraiel on March 17, 2015 10:56PMShendell De'Gull - V14 Vampire Nightblade
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Tripwyr✭✭✭✭✭We asked them to ensure that ESO Plus will not affect Emperorship or the Leaderboards. This is the culmination of that request.Alacrity Founder | Forum Emperor
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Skafsgaard✭✭✭✭Yes, Im glad ZOS didnt include AP in this. At least they are trying. But now with XP is a problem (to me at least) since we now have CPs. If it was only vet14, ok get 10% more xp on your way there.. But ESOPlus is now P2W - its UNdeniable.The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited supports hundreds of players on screen at once in an open world fight for control of Cyrodiil. Get ready for the most intense online PvP experience ever created, with The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited.
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It could still apply to the AP that allows you to buy stuff, or the AP that goes towards skill/rank progression. Giving these a 10% bonus wouldn't affect Emperorship or the Leaderboards, but would still give PvP players a bit of incentive to sub to ESO Plus.We asked them to ensure that ESO Plus will not affect Emperorship or the Leaderboards. This is the culmination of that request.
Any of these things would make ESO Plus more valuable to PvP players as well. I hope they consider including something. 10% bonuses to AP, gold from Rewards for the Worthy and gold from End of Campaign rewards would make the most sense (and be the least P2W).LonePirate wrote: »10% more siege damage? No. 10% increase in battle levelling? No. 10% increase in gold included in Rewards for the Worthy emails? No. 10% increase in the end of campaign rewards? No. 10% AP discount from PVP vendors? No. 10% extra wall and door repair healing? No. Priority queues for entry into Cyrodiil? No.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭✭bellanca6561n wrote: »
Legitimately and thoughtfully responded too also, no need for that tone.
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- Greyskull : Customisable, colour-coded Damage Meter
- Auto Research Scrolls : Automatic management of crafting research scrolls
- ITTs Donation Bot : Donation tracker for Guilds
- ITTs Roster Bot : Roster management for Guilds
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Maidenname✭✭✭Probably because AP directly translate to your position on the leaderboards, while XP and gold do not.
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