Please fix Meteor. 40k+ Shooting Stars and 40-60k Fall damage bug!

trimsic_ESO · March 2015

Meteor is a strong spell, too strong. And there are too many spells that are too strong in 1.6. By too strong, I mean they go beyond some reasonable limits, like 2-3 shooting people.

And PVP is not fun when people can be killed too quickly.

Ok, meteor can be reflected, so there is a mean to counter the effect of such a powerfull ability. But how to counter a zerging raid that launches all the available meteors at the same time?

Is it working as intended, I don't know. It's too much of The Elder Meteor Online in Cyrodiil currently... The raid with the more meteors is likely to win. Should call NASA for some help Maybe?

Xjcon · March 2015

The same people crying nerf for meteor are probably the same people stealth between keeps so they can gank people on their horses, get the right gear for pvp and you won't get hit so hard by meteor. Till then just enjoy the few kills you get from ganks.

seanvwolf · March 2015

LazyLewis wrote: »

So at the moment Meteor does ridiculous damage, it knocks back, has a ridiculous;y powerful DoT and gains ultimate per person hit with Shooting Star morph. OP much.

Except that it telegraphs worse than most other ultimates. Rarely are enough people together to get the 2 second spammability of Shooting Star, but if there are more than 12 people standing around in PvP, stacked... they are kind of asking for it.

Also, it doesn't knockback... it knocks up. With the amount of spell damage that person likely stacked, I'm sure he gets knocked around quite a bit, so unless you can show that you can achieve a 40k single target shooting star and survive multiple attacks at once, I'd say it's a good draw and that Shooting Star is working as intended.

curlyqloub14_ESO · March 2015

Teiji wrote: »

All attribute points into Magicka, all magicka enchants, three Spell Damage enchants, three to four lots of spell damage from item sets.

Step 1 - Cast Structured Entropy
Step 2 - Acquire 20% more spell damage
Step 3 - Acquire Empower-whatever-I'm-called-buff from casting Mage's Guild ability [Next attack does 20% more damage]
Step 4 - Press R
Step 5 - Win the game

Honestly spell damage is so delicious right now, as soon as I get my Nirnhoned Torug's Pact Swords on the EU Megaserver [please sell them to me someone, I pay good MSK] my heavy armor tank will have spell damage from item sets x 3, which is decent. Combined with Nirnhoned and the 100% spell pen? Thanks Zeni, don't mind if I do.

Anyone else having lots of Nirnhoned + spell damage stacking fun?

Yeah... don't nerf shooting star/meteor. It is fine as is. ^^^ This guy explained how someone might get that kind of damage from it (and maybe the ability to stack stuff like this is what should be revised), but for most of us Meteor does damage that is on par with many other Ultimates - it is not OP by itself. Just like with vamp bats and other stuff that has already been nerfed b/c of QQ - it's the synergies that make it OP, not the skill itself. People need to look at the whole picture, and stop blaming individual skills and asking for nerfs on them, or we will eventually have no useful skills left.

zeuseason · March 2015

Meteor is fun but the dot is avoidable.

Rune_Relic · March 2015

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

Teiji wrote: »

All attribute points into Magicka, all magicka enchants, three Spell Damage enchants, three to four lots of spell damage from item sets.

Step 1 - Cast Structured Entropy
Step 2 - Acquire 20% more spell damage
Step 3 - Acquire Empower-whatever-I'm-called-buff from casting Mage's Guild ability [Next attack does 20% more damage]
Step 4 - Press R
Step 5 - Win the game

Honestly spell damage is so delicious right now, as soon as I get my Nirnhoned Torug's Pact Swords on the EU Megaserver [please sell them to me someone, I pay good MSK] my heavy armor tank will have spell damage from item sets x 3, which is decent. Combined with Nirnhoned and the 100% spell pen? Thanks Zeni, don't mind if I do.

Anyone else having lots of Nirnhoned + spell damage stacking fun?

Yeah... don't nerf shooting star/meteor. It is fine as is. ^^^ This guy explained how someone might get that kind of damage from it (and maybe the ability to stack stuff like this is what should be revised), but for most of us Meteor does damage that is on par with many other Ultimates - it is not OP by itself. Just like with vamp bats and other stuff that has already been nerfed b/c of QQ - it's the synergies that make it OP, not the skill itself. People need to look at the whole picture, and stop blaming individual skills and asking for nerfs on them, or we will eventually have no useful skills left.

So its OK if it OP with other skills but not OK if its OP alone ?
Exactly how OP is OK then ?
What is the stamina equivalent ?

DKs used ot wreck face..it wasnt any one skill...it was the way they worked together.
BUT...I guess it was OK they wrecked everyone because....they were working together.

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO · March 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

Fall Damage bug is a bug, Meteor is just someone stacking spell damage and having all of their buffs active at once as well as being a glass cannon build, they probably hit you for 10-15k then your own idioicy for standing in the DoT did the rest.

I wonder.....

Its the end of the world as you know it...

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO · March 2015

Teiji wrote: »

All attribute points into Magicka, all magicka enchants, three Spell Damage enchants, three to four lots of spell damage from item sets.

Step 1 - Cast Structured Entropy
Step 2 - Acquire 20% more spell damage
Step 3 - Acquire Empower-whatever-I'm-called-buff from casting Mage's Guild ability [Next attack does 20% more damage]
Step 4 - Press R
Step 5 - Win the game

Honestly spell damage is so delicious right now, as soon as I get my Nirnhoned Torug's Pact Swords on the EU Megaserver [please sell them to me someone, I pay good MSK] my heavy armor tank will have spell damage from item sets x 3, which is decent. Combined with Nirnhoned and the 100% spell pen? Thanks Zeni, don't mind if I do.

Anyone else having lots of Nirnhoned + spell damage stacking fun?

You doing it wrong BrUh
Soulshine Gear/ Martial Knowledge Set
Step 1: Spell Crit Potion
Step 2: Power Surge
Step 3: Structured Entropy
Step 4: Totem of Anger that gives 5% increased Fire damage on next spell
Step 5: Make Sure your target isn't a Dragonknight
Step 6: If he is and you're a vampire... Make sure you roll or reflect it back
step 7: If your target isn't step 5, ignore 5/6
step 8: Press R
Step 9: WIn Game.

Panda244 · March 2015

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Fall Damage bug is a bug, Meteor is just someone stacking spell damage and having all of their buffs active at once as well as being a glass cannon build, they probably hit you for 10-15k then your own idioicy for standing in the DoT did the rest.

I wonder.....

Its the end of the world as you know it...

And I feel fine......

Game will be done downloading tonight or tomorrow morning, I'm playing War Thunder during the day so it downloads overnight... Got my new PC a few days ago, and the monitor arrived today. So I'll be able to experience Meteor today, and my reaction will probably be....

Casts Reflect.

Or on my Nightblade.

Casts Absorb Magic.

People are overreacting a lot over new things in 1.6, kinda ridiculous if you ask me. Nerf this, and nerf that. Nerf everything! Meteor has two counters that are so easy to get your hands on it isn't even funny, not to mention the damage is pitiful if you don't stand in the DoT. Odds are you're going to die anyway, @Emma_Eunjung pointed out a great fact. Stop asking for nerfs for Meteor and start asking for buffs for the other Ultimates. Because as it stands. Ultimate abilities are laughable. The Ult gen nerf was stupid on Zenimax's part and people are using Shooting Star because it gives Ult back, the only other ability I can think of that does that is Replenishing Barrier, and that gives back more Ultimate than Shooting Star, so would you prefer everyone to spam a mega damage shield or something that can be blocked, reflected, and healed through?

Iago · March 2015

They did something to it

Combat & Gameplay
General
Fixed an issue where some abilities, such as Meteor, were causing large amounts of fall damage when used against targets on ledges.

DeLindsay · March 2015

The fall damage bug certainly needs to be fixed but LOL at the OP for being hit for over 40K by Meteor, were you naked with 0 Spell Resistance? The highest I've been hit by it is 10.8K and that was directly targeting me.

MADshadowman · March 2015

General
Fixed an issue where some abilities, such as Meteor, were causing large amounts of fall damage when used against targets on ledges.

WhiskeyJac · March 2015

Does absorb magic from sword and shield work against meteor?

Scotia · March 2015

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

LOL at the sudden hate for Meteor... do you guys even realize that Meteor is exactly the same as it's always been?

The ONLY reason you're seeing so many people using now is because all the other Ultimates are nearly useless thanks to the 1.6 nerfs to Ultimate regeneration.

Instead of calling for nerfs to the only decent remaining Ultimate for Magicka users, you should be calling for a BUFF to Ultimate generation so people would go back to using the other Ultimates!

Um, no thanks, Ultimates do not need to be buffed, the TTK is already too low as it is in Cyrodiil.

Panda244 · March 2015

WhiskeyJac wrote: »

Does absorb magic from sword and shield work against meteor?

In 1.5 and before yes, not sure bout 1.6.

mortuusbae · March 2015

No leave it, it is the only way to kill that hacker [snip]

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Naming & Shaming]

KBKB · March 2015

lollllll

Astien · March 2015

LazyLewis wrote: »

So there's a bug with Meteor and multiple Knock back abilities plus a couple more things that I reported the day after 1.6 launched and has still not been fixed and now I have to take it to the forums. Plus Meteor itself so doing way to much damage. One of the screen shots below I was stood in the meteor (talons no stam left) for about 3 seconds. I think this is way too strong.

This first screen shoot i was stood about 3 more meters up the stairs and got the knockback from Meteor (no idea why there is no damage on the report from it)

So this one the meteor was targeted at my before I went in the door of the tower and then when I walked through the door I was suddenly outside dead (all of this on the bottom floor)

This last report here is me getting caught in Meteor for 3 seconds....to much damage? Nova ticks for 3-4k a second....so does banner....veil.......Why should meteor be able to do some much damage in a few seconds?

I have died multiple times from this....20+ and I do not see any pattern why it is doing this. I have been on stairs, flat surfaces. open field...everywhere this has killed me for 40K+ fall damage
PLEASE FIX ZOS....GAME BREAKING!

LOL wait, one second, So you're telling me you took 40k damage from meteor and then 18k from other random skills? What exploit is that? How did that 40k meteor not one shot you?

Panda244 · March 2015

Astien wrote: »

LazyLewis wrote: »

So there's a bug with Meteor and multiple Knock back abilities plus a couple more things that I reported the day after 1.6 launched and has still not been fixed and now I have to take it to the forums. Plus Meteor itself so doing way to much damage. One of the screen shots below I was stood in the meteor (talons no stam left) for about 3 seconds. I think this is way too strong.

This first screen shoot i was stood about 3 more meters up the stairs and got the knockback from Meteor (no idea why there is no damage on the report from it)

So this one the meteor was targeted at my before I went in the door of the tower and then when I walked through the door I was suddenly outside dead (all of this on the bottom floor)

This last report here is me getting caught in Meteor for 3 seconds....to much damage? Nova ticks for 3-4k a second....so does banner....veil.......Why should meteor be able to do some much damage in a few seconds?

I have died multiple times from this....20+ and I do not see any pattern why it is doing this. I have been on stairs, flat surfaces. open field...everywhere this has killed me for 40K+ fall damage
PLEASE FIX ZOS....GAME BREAKING!

LOL wait, one second, So you're telling me you took 40k damage from meteor and then 18k from other random skills? What exploit is that? How did that 40k meteor not one shot you?

It was a DoT, he stood in it the entire duration and probably got whacked by it while his block was down, no shields, negative effects, spell damage stacking Meteor chucking freak. Prolly was a vampire to. But you can stand in DoTs and take 100K plus in damage and it'll show up in the death recap, because it's a DoT you can heal through it, so it shows up as an insane amount of damage, but really, he got healed through it, and stood in it. Like a dumbo.

Astien · March 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

Astien wrote: »

LazyLewis wrote: »

So there's a bug with Meteor and multiple Knock back abilities plus a couple more things that I reported the day after 1.6 launched and has still not been fixed and now I have to take it to the forums. Plus Meteor itself so doing way to much damage. One of the screen shots below I was stood in the meteor (talons no stam left) for about 3 seconds. I think this is way too strong.

This first screen shoot i was stood about 3 more meters up the stairs and got the knockback from Meteor (no idea why there is no damage on the report from it)

So this one the meteor was targeted at my before I went in the door of the tower and then when I walked through the door I was suddenly outside dead (all of this on the bottom floor)

This last report here is me getting caught in Meteor for 3 seconds....to much damage? Nova ticks for 3-4k a second....so does banner....veil.......Why should meteor be able to do some much damage in a few seconds?

I have died multiple times from this....20+ and I do not see any pattern why it is doing this. I have been on stairs, flat surfaces. open field...everywhere this has killed me for 40K+ fall damage
PLEASE FIX ZOS....GAME BREAKING!

LOL wait, one second, So you're telling me you took 40k damage from meteor and then 18k from other random skills? What exploit is that? How did that 40k meteor not one shot you?

It was a DoT, he stood in it the entire duration and probably got whacked by it while his block was down, no shields, negative effects, spell damage stacking Meteor chucking freak. Prolly was a vampire to. But you can stand in DoTs and take 100K plus in damage and it'll show up in the death recap, because it's a DoT you can heal through it, so it shows up as an insane amount of damage, but really, he got healed through it, and stood in it. Like a dumbo.

Yeah, I tried to explain that dot damage was accumulative when he threatened to report me, but he claimed he wasn't standing in it. So exploit must be the only other option.

LtCrunch · March 2015

I love using Ball of LIghtning when I see an incoming Meteor and it gets absorbed by my orb. I can taste the tears every time.

Xjcon · March 2015

Brandalf wrote: »

I love using Ball of LIghtning when I see an incoming Meteor and it gets absorbed by my orb. I can taste the tears every time.

Dodge roll works great. But the real win is when you target a person and they run back into their group to drop it on their friends.

trimsic_ESO · March 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Fall Damage bug is a bug, Meteor is just someone stacking spell damage and having all of their buffs active at once as well as being a glass cannon build, they probably hit you for 10-15k then your own idioicy for standing in the DoT did the rest.

I wonder.....

Its the end of the world as you know it...

And I feel fine......

Game will be done downloading tonight or tomorrow morning, I'm playing War Thunder during the day so it downloads overnight... Got my new PC a few days ago, and the monitor arrived today. So I'll be able to experience Meteor today, and my reaction will probably be....

Casts Reflect.

Or on my Nightblade.

Casts Absorb Magic.

Cast reflect or cast absorb magic. Ok, but when? 100% of the time?
Because how do you know that a meteor is going to hit you?

Panda244 · March 2015

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Fall Damage bug is a bug, Meteor is just someone stacking spell damage and having all of their buffs active at once as well as being a glass cannon build, they probably hit you for 10-15k then your own idioicy for standing in the DoT did the rest.

I wonder.....

Its the end of the world as you know it...

And I feel fine......

Game will be done downloading tonight or tomorrow morning, I'm playing War Thunder during the day so it downloads overnight... Got my new PC a few days ago, and the monitor arrived today. So I'll be able to experience Meteor today, and my reaction will probably be....

Casts Reflect.

Or on my Nightblade.

Casts Absorb Magic.

Cast reflect or cast absorb magic. Ok, but when? 100% of the time?
Because how do you know that a meteor is going to hit you?

The gigantic fracking indicator beneath your feet and the sound of it whooshing down from the heavens to smash your skull into a thousand tiny pieces...........................? Or you know... Look up?

Vahrokh · March 2015

Rook_Master wrote: »

trimsic_ESO wrote: »

Is meteor considered as a projectile, so we can reflect it?

Until last week it was.

But you know that was ridiculous, right?

Imagine Bruce Willis reflecting the meteor in Armagheddon

Vahrokh · March 2015

nukeemstudiosub17_ESO wrote: »

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

Agreed. Shooting star and radiant destruction damsge is too high. Also how does one spam shooting star to hit twice in a row? I got nailed in a spam of 2 seconds with shooting star by the same guy twice. No way he could have generated ultimate that fast. To hit me twice unless I'm missing something?

The person may have used his ult THEN his armor bonus proc'd sending out another meteor. There is an armor set that has a chance to send a meteor out

SKoria set bonus.

ArconSeptim · March 2015

Did they even fix the Nirnhoned trait?? What about Radiant?????? @ZOS_GinaBruno

Vahrokh · March 2015

LazyLewis wrote: »

Panda244 wrote: »

Fall Damage bug is a bug, Meteor is just someone stacking spell damage and having all of their buffs active at once as well as being a glass cannon build, they probably hit you for 10-15k then your own idioicy for standing in the DoT did the rest.

I wonder.....

The 40k Damage I was exposed for possibly around 3 seconds (Ridicuously OP)..Don't appreciate your remarks. Commenting on standing in the DoT is constructive feedback but calling some an idiot is you being a ***. Please only leave constructive feedback without the sly remarks.

So at the moment Meteor does ridiculous damage, it knocks back, has a ridiculous;y powerful DoT and gains ultimate per person hit with Shooting Star morph. OP much.

The Yucatán crater meteor is said to have contributed to the whole Dinosaurs extinction. In comparison, Meteor ultimate is really not so much to talk about

Rune_Relic · March 2015

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

The gigantic fracking indicator beneath your feet and the sound of it whooshing down from the heavens to smash your skull into a thousand tiny pieces...........................? Or you know... Look up?

I think he means which one of the 20 or so incoming are you gonna reflect

when all the ground around you is red.

Panda244 · March 2015

Rune_Relic wrote: »

curlyqloub14_ESO wrote: »

The gigantic fracking indicator beneath your feet and the sound of it whooshing down from the heavens to smash your skull into a thousand tiny pieces...........................? Or you know... Look up?

I think he means which one of the 20 or so incoming are you gonna reflect when all the ground around you is red.

All of them... Spam the button! SPAM IT!