Grunim wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Willyoke wrote: »

Please, tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this

I never die. My HP never even goes to less than half of my bar. I don't even need to use my tanky spells because there's just no point. I'm a level 24 DK, using level 15 armour., and I'm still bored stiff because of the easiness of this game. My weapons are even old, and I feel that I'm going to have to dumb myself down even more, just to get a challenge.

Please, make it harder!!!

if all you're doing is running quests then you're doing it wrong.

Try solo'ing dolmens and world bosses for a challenge.

Yep, you can definitely solo dolmens and world bosses if you are a skilled player.

Also @Willyoke is playing a DK which is generally considered to be the most OP class. If he would like a challenge, I suggest he try playing a sorc.

Really? I thought all classes would be balanced. DK's are naturally tanky as hell, then?

Grunim wrote: »

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Willyoke wrote: »

Please, tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this

I never die. My HP never even goes to less than half of my bar. I don't even need to use my tanky spells because there's just no point. I'm a level 24 DK, using level 15 armour., and I'm still bored stiff because of the easiness of this game. My weapons are even old, and I feel that I'm going to have to dumb myself down even more, just to get a challenge.

Please, make it harder!!!

if all you're doing is running quests then you're doing it wrong.

Try solo'ing dolmens and world bosses for a challenge.

Yep, you can definitely solo dolmens and world bosses if you are a skilled player.

Also @Willyoke is playing a DK which is generally considered to be the most OP class. If he would like a challenge, I suggest he try playing a sorc.

I have a sorc in OVE I did the last mages guild quest on Eyeveya which is a level 43 quest when I was level 26 or so

Oh he's new. He has NO IDEA how ridiculously OverPowered DragonKnights have been since launch.

With the right skills and gear, DK's can wade through anything.

Use the forum search function for "Unkillable" and look at how many of the people making those claims are DK's.

Willyoke wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Willyoke wrote: »

GreySix wrote: »

Zershar_Vemod wrote: »

Run around naked.

should add a challenge for you.

This.


Game's too easy for you?

Then wear Level 1 armor (or prison garb) with no enchantments, make sure you eat no food or drinks at all, and carry no potions with you.

Then wade face-first into fights.


The game should then become challenging for you.





Glad to help.

This just isn't fun. I don't want to have to wear novice gear, and dumb myself down to get a challenge. This is just ridiculous. Getting to the end of the game will take too long, and then there will be no point in making another play-through because I'll just get bored, again.

You wanted harder gameplay.

I provided a fool-proof method.

Yes, it would give myself a better challenge, to get more enjoyment, but losing enjoyment because I'm not using any nice weapons or armour. Should I just stay as a soul shriven for the entire game?

If that's what you need to get what you feel to be hard enough gameplay, sure. Only person preventing gameplay from being more difficult than it is ... is you.

The developers need make no changes at all; follow my advice, and gameplay will be just as tough as you want it to be.

WraithAzraiel wrote: »

Oh he's new. He has NO IDEA how ridiculously OverPowered DragonKnights have been since launch.

With the right skills and gear, DK's can wade through anything.

Use the forum search function for "Unkillable" and look at how many of the people making those claims are DK's.

Not sure if you're being serious, but I went to v10 in beta with much tougher 1-50 and v1-v10 areas on a sorc, and more recently my own sorc is up to v7 and laughing at the current vet content. My beta nightblade had an easy time of it and so did my live one which was done before the nerfs to vet zones. My main DK had no trouble either through v14 pre-nerfs. The only one I haven't done was a Templar, but I've been told by people who would know they have just as easy a time of it if not easier, basically just spamming puncturing sweep (the heal version), the damage reduction version of the aedric spear ult (aoe + bunch of damage reduction per target hit), and solar barrage all the way to the end of Cadwell's Gold. If you're having trouble finishing any of the quest content in the game, you really need to look at your build and stop blaming game balance . I'm not saying that to be snide, but when most are able to go right through it with a good or great build and you're struggling... that doesn't indicate it's the class that's the issue as far as what's wrong.

Go and do vet DSA or Sanctum Ophidia Hard Mode

Have to agree with the op. I'm a vr. 14 DK, and the pve content in eso is sadly too easy. Would love more challenge.

The game is made to be challenging to the average weekend player. Sadly that means to anyone with good MMO skills it is very easy.

Only solution is to move several zones ahead so the mobs outlevel you significantly, or try to solo content that was meant to be completed by groups: dolmens, public dungeons, etc.

For instance, at 24, try to solo wayrest sewers. Investigator Garron should give you a pretty tough challenge

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

they need to take a page out of GW2's book, and scale characters to the level of the area they currently in. we of course get to keep our bonuses and skillst

LMAO .. you claim to be looking for a 'challenge' then say you want to keep all you over-level skills when down-leveled.

Really?

No, if ZOS do this they should do it the was Square Enix to level-capping in FFXI/FFXIV, you're only given the skills you could have at the appropriate level .. a bit 'iffy' given the way skills are leveling in ESO however a rule that skill level can't exceed scaled-level would likely suffice to make it more of a 'challenge'.

firstdecan wrote: »

Willyoke wrote: »

Kalfis wrote: »

The challenge was supposed to be veteran leveling.

But that was nerfed into the ground.



I don't really care tbh, all I care about is the story. The easier the fighting is, the better.

That's fine, but what about those who want a challenge? There should be a way to balance this. I find it ridiculous in games like this, when you have to dumb yourself down to get a challenge.

The challenge in the game is PvP. It's simply too bad that it takes ~400 hours of questing, and now ~3600 hours of earning champion points before you can actually be competitive with other players. But don't worry, if you play every day you'll get there in about 2 years.

Well if you want a challenge go PVP while not VR14... Solved.

It is an Elder Scrolls game. Which means that your character should be fun to play no matter what playstyle you choose and the range of abilities you use.

Forcing players to play a in a specific way or with certain abilities just to able to complete leveling content and/or dungeons in the Veteran level range is counterproductive to their overall philosophy and also diminishing to the gameplay experience.

If you want challenges there are ways to do so. Since the patch (1.6), a lot of people have been arguing that the content have gotten much harder.
The changes made to the VR have been welcomed and praised by the majority of the community. A number of people in this thread does not seem to realize this.

VR content was harder back in the day. Did some people enjoy that? Positively. Was it a better for the game? Absolutely not.

Give peeps the option not everyone wants it harder.

SexyVette07 wrote: »

This guy is clearly looking for attention. "Oh look at me and how awsum I am, hurr hurr hurr DERP".

This was my first thought! When I find myself unhappy gaming I usually take a break from the game.Go outside,take a deep breath and relax.

So many nonconstructive posts on this forum.

It is a game! Just a game,not real life!

PvE was nerfed because it was too hard for the average player who did not know how to build some super DPS build. Those of us who remember VR at launch know too well that no average player could do it, and for that reason Zenimax lost a lot of subs, they also lost a lot of subs because it was a grind.

Zenimax should take something out of the first Guild Wars, the ability to change the zone to hard mode. This could be done in the party window where you can set it to either normal or veteran.