Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
Nope
Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
Nope
Your insightful rebuttal has won me over. I clearly was wrong.
Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
Nope
Your insightful rebuttal has won me over. I clearly was wrong.
Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
Sure, those diminishing returns might make the difference small, if player A who grinded 105 Champion Points was always only 35 points ahead of player B.
The problem is that player A will be 50% ahead of player B, not a set amount of Points.
And I'm being generous with the percentages btw
See the difference between 750 & 500 I posted above.
That difference is bigger than any gear set in game could grant you (in fact, it's more power than most raid gear grants in other MMOs), and it is solely awarded to the person who grinds the most.
Good game design? Doubtful. But hey, atleast they'll sell tons of XP boosters...
starkerealm wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
Sure, those diminishing returns might make the difference small, if player A who grinded 105 Champion Points was always only 35 points ahead of player B.
The problem is that player A will be 50% ahead of player B, not a set amount of Points.
And I'm being generous with the percentages btw
See the difference between 750 & 500 I posted above.
That difference is bigger than any gear set in game could grant you (in fact, it's more power than most raid gear grants in other MMOs), and it is solely awarded to the person who grinds the most.
Good game design? Doubtful. But hey, atleast they'll sell tons of XP boosters...
You really want them to sell XP potions don't you? I mean, you've been asking for them in nearly every thread I've seen you in for months. I don't get it, what's so hard about actually playing the game?
Anyway, in all seriousness, the curve should be sharper. It's not linear, but it gets close at times. The first 10-20 CP in a star need to take you most of the way towards that bonus' cap so that the players that are dumping 400 points in the system don't break everything egregiously.
ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
Nope
Your insightful rebuttal has won me over. I clearly was wrong.
Your case: A player with hundreds of CP (up to 500 potentially) doesn't have a significant advantage over someone with approx 80 in Cyrodiil right now.
Mine: Nope
It really doesn't require more than that.
Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Nope.
Actually, yes.
Given that most builds will reach what they need to have in effectiveness pretty quickly since a lot of bonuses aren't applicable to more than one or two build niches each (I don't need to do 10% more damage with my destruction staff heavy attacks if I'm a stamina 2h user for example) and the chart above.... I rest my case.
Nope
Your insightful rebuttal has won me over. I clearly was wrong.
Your case: A player with hundreds of CP (up to 500 potentially) doesn't have a significant advantage over someone with approx 80 in Cyrodiil right now.
Mine: Nope
It really doesn't require more than that.
Actually, I stated my point which is more along the lines that someone with 500 cp won't be that far behind, proportional to the effort put in to earn, a player with 2000 cp. Please don't put words in others' mouths... .
If some people managed to grind for 4 straight days, who the heck are you to say they should lose their points? You have the option to do such things but chose not to. This idea of a roll back is absurd, if I lose my 7 or 8 CP I've currently got I will unsub uninstall and never look back at another zos/Bethesda game again.
The title states everything!
What's the official word on this from ZOS?
The people with 250+ CP's are going to be far OP'd compared to everyone else!
You should just roll everything back so everyone is back on 70 CP and disable enlightenment until it's fixed!
It's going to get out of hand!
@ZOS_GinaBruno
ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »If some people managed to grind for 4 straight days, who the heck are you to say they should lose their points? You have the option to do such things but chose not to. This idea of a roll back is absurd, if I lose my 7 or 8 CP I've currently got I will unsub uninstall and never look back at another zos/Bethesda game again.
The infinite enlightenment bug was not available to everyone to exploit.
Similarly, the no enlightenment bug was not available for everyone to suffer.
The "option to do such things" that you speak of did not exist for most people.
starkerealm wrote: »You really want them to sell XP potions don't you? I mean, you've been asking for them in nearly every thread I've seen you in for months. I don't get it, what's so hard about actually playing the game?
Anyway, in all seriousness, the curve should be sharper. It's not linear, but it gets close at times. The first 10-20 CP in a star need to take you most of the way towards that bonus' cap so that the players that are dumping 400 points in the system don't break everything egregiously.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I want the complete opposite
Just pointing out why they're P2W.
ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »If some people managed to grind for 4 straight days, who the heck are you to say they should lose their points? You have the option to do such things but chose not to. This idea of a roll back is absurd, if I lose my 7 or 8 CP I've currently got I will unsub uninstall and never look back at another zos/Bethesda game again.
The infinite enlightenment bug was not available to everyone to exploit.
Similarly, the no enlightenment bug was not available for everyone to suffer.
The "option to do such things" that you speak of did not exist for most people.
Obviously this person is referring to the option of playing the game for 4 days straight - which has not to do with the bug issue. Some people were not permanently enlightened this past few days -- as you point out --- yet have played tons because that is just what they do. They have been able to earn quite a few CPs as rightly they should have for playing that much already. A roll back to include what they earned without exploiting anything is not acceptable.
ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »If some people managed to grind for 4 straight days, who the heck are you to say they should lose their points? You have the option to do such things but chose not to. This idea of a roll back is absurd, if I lose my 7 or 8 CP I've currently got I will unsub uninstall and never look back at another zos/Bethesda game again.
The infinite enlightenment bug was not available to everyone to exploit.
Similarly, the no enlightenment bug was not available for everyone to suffer.
The "option to do such things" that you speak of did not exist for most people.
Obviously this person is referring to the option of playing the game for 4 days straight - which has not to do with the bug issue. Some people were not permanently enlightened this past few days -- as you point out --- yet have played tons because that is just what they do. They have been able to earn quite a few CPs as rightly they should have for playing that much already. A roll back to include what they earned without exploiting anything is not acceptable.
LOL!!
They were grinding because of the bug.
Most people went off to do other things (like work/eat/sleep/pvp/dungeons etc) when enlightenment ran out. Those exploiting the bug milked it for all it was worth while it lasted because they knew ZOS are limp on issues like this and would likely not take action.
These arguments are ludicrous. Infinite enlightenment bug bro?
danno816_ESO wrote: »Hmm. Math.
Start with 70 CP. OP says 250. So these people have acquired 180 CP.
180/3 days= 60 CP per day
60/24 = 2.5 CP per hour
So OP you are saying that some people had permanent enlightenment and have grinded for 72 hours straight, at a rate of 2.5 CP per hour?
Screenshot plz, seems implausible.
ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »You really want them to sell XP potions don't you? I mean, you've been asking for them in nearly every thread I've seen you in for months. I don't get it, what's so hard about actually playing the game?
Anyway, in all seriousness, the curve should be sharper. It's not linear, but it gets close at times. The first 10-20 CP in a star need to take you most of the way towards that bonus' cap so that the players that are dumping 400 points in the system don't break everything egregiously.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I want the complete opposite
Just pointing out why they're P2W.
Then stop devaluing the meaning of "pay to win" by trying to claim the cosmetic items are as well... or, was that someone else?
ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »If some people managed to grind for 4 straight days, who the heck are you to say they should lose their points? You have the option to do such things but chose not to. This idea of a roll back is absurd, if I lose my 7 or 8 CP I've currently got I will unsub uninstall and never look back at another zos/Bethesda game again.
The infinite enlightenment bug was not available to everyone to exploit.
Similarly, the no enlightenment bug was not available for everyone to suffer.
The "option to do such things" that you speak of did not exist for most people.
Obviously this person is referring to the option of playing the game for 4 days straight - which has not to do with the bug issue. Some people were not permanently enlightened this past few days -- as you point out --- yet have played tons because that is just what they do. They have been able to earn quite a few CPs as rightly they should have for playing that much already. A roll back to include what they earned without exploiting anything is not acceptable.
LOL!!
They were grinding because of the bug.
Most people went off to do other things (like work/eat/sleep/pvp/dungeons etc) when enlightenment ran out. Those exploiting the bug milked it for all it was worth while it lasted because they knew ZOS are limp on issues like this and would likely not take action.
These arguments are ludicrous. Infinite enlightenment bug bro?
No. I know plenty of people in game that play this way all the time because they have the time. Not complicated. They are not PvP players and did not set foot anyplace near the Keep exploit in Cyrodill or grind anything in Craglorn. Playing the game for hours on end is now and exploit too? Get a grip.
ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Attorneyatlawl wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »Emma_Eunjung wrote: »It's been hell just grinding my way to 80 CP... I swear if I get rolled back because of a bunch of whiners I'm going to go apes--t.
So we should leave those with hundreds of CP free to roam around in PvP against those that have 80ish?
Yes. Not that gigantic an advantage anyway, mathematically. And as far as the number of people who might have been able to do it, it's probably under a hundredth of a percent of the total playerbase anyway. Ideal? Nope. But rolling back everyone would be many orders of magnitude worse.
Not that much of an advantage in PvP? Clearly you haven't looked at all the numbers and the passives. Let me introduce you to Cyro one day...
edit: By the way, for the uninitiated, there is a leaderboard in PvP that gives legendary item rewards and there's a "race" for Emperor (in theory) so a small percentage of people having an unfair advantage is a big deal.
He's spent plenty of time in Cyrodiil . Look at the numbers and how diminishing returns hit in the champion system quickly and @Attorneyatlawl is completely one hundred percent spot on.
Well said!
These PvE'rs aren't accustomed to PvP which is why there trolling!
On another note, stating roll everyone back to 70 is a bit extreme why not boost everyone to 100 and roll back anyone over that as they weren't made fairly that's for sure!
I understand the point and have addressed here and elsewhere. If people stopped conflating everything to the same issue and we might get someplace.ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »If some people managed to grind for 4 straight days, who the heck are you to say they should lose their points? You have the option to do such things but chose not to. This idea of a roll back is absurd, if I lose my 7 or 8 CP I've currently got I will unsub uninstall and never look back at another zos/Bethesda game again.
The infinite enlightenment bug was not available to everyone to exploit.
Similarly, the no enlightenment bug was not available for everyone to suffer.
The "option to do such things" that you speak of did not exist for most people.
Obviously this person is referring to the option of playing the game for 4 days straight - which has not to do with the bug issue. Some people were not permanently enlightened this past few days -- as you point out --- yet have played tons because that is just what they do. They have been able to earn quite a few CPs as rightly they should have for playing that much already. A roll back to include what they earned without exploiting anything is not acceptable.
LOL!!
They were grinding because of the bug.
Most people went off to do other things (like work/eat/sleep/pvp/dungeons etc) when enlightenment ran out. Those exploiting the bug milked it for all it was worth while it lasted because they knew ZOS are limp on issues like this and would likely not take action.
These arguments are ludicrous. Infinite enlightenment bug bro?
No. I know plenty of people in game that play this way all the time because they have the time. Not complicated. They are not PvP players and did not set foot anyplace near the Keep exploit in Cyrodill or grind anything in Craglorn. Playing the game for hours on end is now and exploit too? Get a grip.
If they didn't exploit the enlightenment bug then they won't have hundreds of CP. No problem if ZOS picks a cap of, say, 100 CP and lops any over that amount. Yeah?
Grinding was not the problem. I have no issue with anyone grinding Skyreach 24/7 if they were so inclined and I think the blanket nerf was stupid. That's not the issue we're talking about. If you read the name of the thread, perhaps, if not the OP then you might understand the point being discussed.