@Zenimax - Where Do You Want Me To Play?

Aletheion · March 2015

I have two VR 14 characters. I love to play them. I love to play the PvE content. If I'm not doing a daily, then I'm running Craglorn delves and repeatable quests - the zone made for my characters.

Unfortunately, over time, it's gotten hit with the XP nerf hammer more then once.

Then this comes in:
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155801/3-7-15-hotfixes-and-cyrodiil-bonuses#latest

With all of the XP nerfs because of the grinds, now I'm utterly uncompensated for playing in the zone you made for my max level characters. Since it's completely unrewarding to play there now, and other zones that are also fun, but because of the lower level have also little to zero XP for a VR14, where do you want me to play?

My group played through Shada's Tear, not because it was an exploit, but because it's fun. We played through Skyreach Catacombs and didn't just grind the chest, but played the entire quest - because it's fun and we were all gaining good XP and progressing in Champion Points as we played many quests and delves in Craglorn the last few days.

Of course, it's still fun, but the reward is all but gone. Killing a difficult mob is now getting 1k XP. You want us to do that 400 times to get a champion point?

I'm not trolling or just griping, I'm legitimately asking you guys: Where do you want me to play that's both fun *and* rewarding *and* challenging enough for my VR14 characters?

-Aletheion

Xelphos · March 2015

No idea... I grinded my newest character to VR14, so I still have all the quests todo, but it takes motivation todo the quests I have already done 3 times. I enjoy grinding, and they are taking that away, so if they keep going down this road, I will take away the money I am giving them(again).

Divad Zarn · March 2015

Aletheion wrote: »

I have two VR 14 characters. I love to play them. I love to play the PvE content. If I'm not doing a daily, then I'm running Craglorn delves and repeatable quests - the zone made for my characters.

Unfortunately, over time, it's gotten hit with the XP nerf hammer more then once.

Then this comes in:
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/155801/3-7-15-hotfixes-and-cyrodiil-bonuses#latest

With all of the XP nerfs because of the grinds, now I'm utterly uncompensated for playing in the zone you made for my max level characters. Since it's completely unrewarding to play there now, and other zones that are also fun, but because of the lower level have also little to zero XP for a VR14, where do you want me to play?

My group played through Shada's Tear, not because it was an exploit, but because it's fun. We played through Skyreach Catacombs and didn't just grind the chest, but played the entire quest - because it's fun and we were all gaining good XP and progressing in Champion Points as we played many quests and delves in Craglorn the last few days.

Of course, it's still fun, but the reward is all but gone. Killing a difficult mob is now getting 1k XP. You want us to do that 400 times to get a champion point?

I'm not trolling or just griping, I'm legitimately asking you guys: Where do you want me to play that's both fun *and* rewarding *and* challenging enough for my VR14 characters?

-Aletheion

Fully agree mate.. Me (and almost ALL old players are in the same situation), joining that topic and we want to know, where ZOS want's us to play, with 13k achievement points and 99% quests done.

Roechacca · March 2015

You're playing too much guys . You're ruining the balance . Now other people can't compete . Stop playing so much and go enjoy the scenery and take screen shots . Let the other people have a chance to catch up . We're all winners if we all slow down and cross the finish line together right ?

kodo · March 2015

i just dont get it ...what's the rush, ppl? u know, i play for almost 4 months now, and i have just one char
at level 40.. and i'm fine with it.
i do all the quests,all of them,i do all activities the game has to offer,all the crafting writs,fishing,etc..
really, prior to 1.6 patch i did all i can to slow game progression as imo it was just way too fast

but i think now it's even better,progression is more real,i dont get to next level after 2 days of easy going,so fine by me..

ferzalrwb17_ESO · March 2015

kodo wrote: »

i just dont get it ...what's the rush, ppl? u know, i play for almost 4 months now, and i have just one char
at level 40.. and i'm fine with it.
i do all the quests,all of them,i do all activities the game has to offer,all the crafting writs,fishing,etc..
really, prior to 1.6 patch i did all i can to slow game progression as imo it was just way too fast
but i think now it's even better,progression is more real,i dont get to next level after 2 days of easy going,so fine by me..

So you can play in your level-appropriate zone and get the appropriate rewards at your pace. For VR14s we have nowhere to play that gives sufficient reward to advance our champion ranks. PvP gives pathetic XP. Craglorn gives pathetic XP. Pledges give awful XP.

The answer to the OPs question is: grinding out quests in Cadwell's Silver and Gold. If you've already done them (or when you eventually complete them) then you're out of luck.

You can grind some overland mobs in VR9-10 areas but I'm guessing ZOS will nerf them soon. They created a MASSIVE grind requirement then eliminate any remotely enjoyable ways to advance. I like some of the content mentioned in the OP but no one is going to join me for no reward. The gold/item rewards are pathetic and so is the XP now. Most of the Crag instances aren't challenging in the slightest so all that content development time is totally wasted. It could have been spent doing something better... like actually doing away with the Vet grind as promised rather than multiplying it by a thousand.

Roechacca · March 2015

ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »

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kodo wrote: »

i just dont get it ...what's the rush, ppl? u know, i play for almost 4 months now, and i have just one char
at level 40.. and i'm fine with it.
i do all the quests,all of them,i do all activities the game has to offer,all the crafting writs,fishing,etc..
really, prior to 1.6 patch i did all i can to slow game progression as imo it was just way too fast
but i think now it's even better,progression is more real,i dont get to next level after 2 days of easy going,so fine by me..

So you can play in your level-appropriate zone and get the appropriate rewards at your pace. For VR14s we have nowhere to play that gives sufficient reward to advance our champion ranks. PvP gives pathetic XP. Craglorn gives pathetic XP. Pledges give awful XP.

The answer to the OPs question is: grinding out quests in Cadwell's Silver and Gold. If you've already done them (or when you eventually complete them) then you're out of luck.

You can grind some overland mobs in VR9-10 areas but I'm guessing ZOS will nerf them soon. They created a MASSIVE grind requirement then eliminate any remotely enjoyable ways to advance. I like some of the content mentioned in the OP but no one is going to join me for no reward. The gold/item rewards are pathetic and so is the XP now. Most of the Crag instances aren't challenging in the slightest so all that content development time is totally wasted. It could have been spent doing something better... like actually doing away with the Vet grind as promised rather than multiplying it by a thousand.

Exactly . There is NO new content to explore or to play . The only option is to not care and wait .

Inactive Account · March 2015

It does seem that a large part of patch 1.6 is geared towards the console release coming in the next couple of months; new, low level players.

For those players out there that are level capped; you may have to wait for the DLC to get the full "experience" again.

This is just a shot in the dark.... I am basing this on nothing other than "what it Seems like".

No Facts Where Used In This Comment. (just covering my ass)

Shadesofkin · March 2015

ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »

I like some of the content mentioned in the OP but no one is going to join me for no reward. The gold/item rewards are pathetic and so is the XP now.

This. Who on earth is going to give up his carefully crafted set of armor and planned out build for a crappy blue or green weapon or armor? What sort of person is going to think "gee, I really like only getting 600 gold from doing this"?

Gold, Experience, and Gear...all 3 need addressed in Crag and in Pledges. Introduce new sets, make white versions of highly valued sets so that we've got to burn tempers on them all the way up to Legendary if we want it. 604 gold for a plege, C'mon son, 1k or bust. And as for experience...it needs to increase across the board.

Vandarix · March 2015

ZOS is punishing it's player base for playing the game how they enjoy it. I mean I for one would love to grind quests all day if it wasn't so Limited... Hopefully Tamriel Limited will release with more quests.