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How do you feel about the 1.6 changes to Redguard and Orc armour?
UrQuan
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So there are already a couple of threads discussing the changes that have been made to the Redguard and Orc armour styles for 1.6, but I thought it would be nice to have a poll to see how many people like the changes and how many people don't like them. If you like some changes, but dislike others, go with whichever answer most closely matches how you feel about the changes as a whole. I've intentionally left no neutral response to the poll. If you don't care one way or the other, or if your like of some changes is balanced out evenly with your dislike of others, just don't vote.
Edited by UrQuan on February 28, 2015 2:21AM |
Caius Drusus Imperial DK (DC) Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC) Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP) Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD) J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD) |
Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC) Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP) Manut Redguard Temp (AD) Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP) Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD) |
Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP) Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC) Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP) Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC) Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp |
How do you feel about the 1.6 changes to Redguard and Orc armour? 213 votes
Overall I like the changes
31%
68 votes
Overall I don't like the changes
68%
145 votes
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UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesPersonally I don't like the changes. The changes to the Orc motif don't bother me that much (although I slightly prefer the old Orc heavy armour, I do like some elements of the changes they've made). The changes to the Redguard heavy armour don't bother me much either - in fact I might like the new heavy a little more. I really dislike the changes to the Redguard light armour though. The old look had so much more swashbuckling character to it. The new look is bland to me, and seems closer to something a Breton would wear than a daring Redguard out of Stros M'kai or Al'Akir.
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp2 -
Emma_Overload✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Overall I like the changesI love the new Redguard look... my "Desert Rose" set looks so much cooler now!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭Overall I don't like the changesStill bitter over the pointless change to the Orsimer heavy, but the redguard light is sooooo bad now. From cultural wraps to a generically ugly tunic + skirt. 10 steps backwards on this redesign, not only is the basic design generic now, but it's uglier than most of the other tunics now too.5 -
deathmasterl_ESO✭✭✭Overall I like the changesI like the changes, but I do believe they should also include the previous options as well, sort of how they have the different options for medium and light... I think... don't quite remember tbh.Saevus Messor Imperial Dragonknight Vr14 Aldmeri Dominion
Talia Spiritus Imperial Nightblade Lv17 Aldmeri Dominion
Naomi Athael Altmer Sorcerer Lv8 Aldmeri Dominion
Nyanta Raimanni Khajiit Templar Lv4 Aldmeri Dominion
Sina Nightwind Bosmer Dragonknight Lv4 Aldmeri Dominion
Leader of the 1st Infiltration and Scouting Division
Master Weapon and Armor Crafter0 -
Elloa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Overall I don't like the changesI'm so sad and disapointed about the changes made to the light and medium armor of the Redguard than I clearly state: I don't like the changes.
I'm also a little bit upset that Zenimax only pick up questions of people enjoying the changes for the Q&A, while there was plenty of questions that illustrate better how the majority of poeple are actually NOT liking the changes. While not a lie this was completely biased towards something not representative of the reality of things!
I even asked a question that was intently formulated in a positive way, to have all my chances to see it answered (I really enjoyed the old style, can we hope to see it asa costume in the cash shop or as a different motifs)
The old light and medium armor for the Redguard were looking awesome! It was seducive, mysterious, exotic, original and creative. The new light armor are plain and boring. It's honnestly a ugly nightdress.
Edited by Elloa on February 28, 2015 10:12AM10 -
Frawr✭✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesI would prefer to have both options. Choice always better than change.3
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MornaBaine✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesI'm so sad and disapointed about the changes made to the light and medium armor of the Redguard than I clearly state: I don't like the changes.
I'm also a little bit upset that Zenimax only pick up questions of people enjoying the changes for the Q&A, while there was plenty of questions that illustrate better how the majority of poeple are actually NOT liking the changes. While not a lie this was completely biased towards something not representative of the reality of things!
I even asked a question that was intently formulated in a positive way, to have all my chances to see it answered (I really enjoyed the old style, can we hope to see it asa costume in the cash shop or as a different motifs)
The old light and medium armor for the Redguard were looking awesome! It was seducive, mysterious, exotic, original and creative. The new light armor are plain and boring. It's honnestly a ugly nightdress.
THIS. ^^ I feel selecting that question and their answer was a bit disingenuous. They know darn well that a lot of folks are very UNHAPPY with the change to Redguard Light armor. And they glossed right over it instead of addressing it. Disappointing.Edited by MornaBaine on February 28, 2015 1:52PMPAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!3 -
DobbaDeuce✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesWell guys, we did our best. Here we are, one day before the launch of 1.6 and it looks like despite the fact that only 22% of this sample actually want this change to take place, we're in for a removal of some of our favorite armor styles. I'd like to take a quick look back at some of our valiant attempts to prevent this from occurring:
ESO Hides My Cleavage
Redguard Female Light. I think the new is just boring and terrible.
Official Discussion Thread for "Ready for War: Orc and Redguard Armor"
1.6 List the #1 thing you hate and the #1 thing you love.
Redguard and Orc new armors
I guess up next is trying to get these old styles added back into the game through the crown store, followed by trying to get them to add color dyeing to the collection costumes.Edited by DobbaDeuce on March 2, 2015 8:10PMTamriel-616 - A Chronicle of Tamriel's Heroes
Jollo | Daggerfall | Templar | Lvl 47 | Blackwater Blade
Vidarr | Ebonheart | Sorcerer | Lvl 26 | Chillrend
J'Pummra | Aldmeri | Dragonknight | Lvl 13 | Thornblade2 -
cote-bmsb16_ESO✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesI'm still pissed they mucked with my Redguard Medium armor on my female Templar. It looks like *** in 1.6. I dont know why they even changed it, it was really nice before.2
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charley222✭✭✭✭i just hate orc armor in this game , i just dont like the fullface helmet look cheap and all crest on the armor also the shoulder have any spike and dont like shiny metal style for orc
, i realy miss this skyrim armor so much better
Edited by charley222 on March 2, 2015 8:30PMthe wall of the covenant2 -
Audigy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Overall I don't like the changesMy char will have a hard time moving around with the new armor, she picked it to be able to move faster and dodge the attacks quicker and not to give males a look on her breasts.
In future her breasts are covered, but so is her ability to play a tiny & squishy hero, with a fitting clothing line. Sure you may say, nothing really changes, but for people who look for immersion and realism in a game, the change was bad.
And no we don't need half naked costumes either, just keep what we had and add more motifs that fit the different roles of our characters.
We should be allowed to pick light armor for what it is, a light cover of the chars body, while medium protects a bit more, with heavy being fully covered.
I find it a pity that so many games become unrealistic due design choices that are just not understandable to a Roleplayer.
We are allowed to run around without armor, nude only covered by a skin - yet they patch out light armor pieces, its not making sense, I am sorry ZO. 3 -
Lord_Kreegan✭✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesI liked the way the old armor looked. I don't like changes made just for the sake of change.3
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Sapphyrerose29Soul ShrivenOverall I don't like the changesWhat have you guys done to the armour i hate it.I am so disappointed it's starting to feel like ESO is now providing very limited options for a woman to feel feminine,not that we had many options to start with but now you have gone and removed all but one. I am not saying i want super slutty outfits, but there is nothing wrong with showing a little skin. I know there will be costumes available in the crown store but we wont be able to dye them or make them are own so whats the point.We need alot more options! I get some people say cover up and i say to them each to their own but at least give us the option to do either.I have spoken to many of the women in my guild and they are in agreement.
I really hope you listen to the many players who are unhappy with these changes cause with the whole buy to play coming in shortly i suspect I will be rethinking whether or not to continue my subscription.Apart from that the game is fantastic and I love it.1 -
Jakhajay✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesMy feelings in a nutshell:
Sh'ira - One Eyed Tihm - Do'Mazar - Dar'Sol - Hazzahn - J'darr Sun-Arrow - Bishabi -J'manna - Narim Tollana - Abijah-Ra - Idhassi-Ko - Kajhe the Salty - Ti'lani - Sabhan-Dar - Palamai
JakhajayAlt: Azala-Do - Saahni the Ohmes - S'aolla of the Darks - Zashima-La Ako'Zhajiit - Lo'Mai-Dro - Taheh-Do - Hrrula - Hatamira - Da'lai
Shield Anvil - Trake's Talons
Knight Praefect - Knights of the Steel Claw
All Khajiit, All the time!
For Elsweyr and her people!9 -
BlueViolet✭✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesIn the beginning from the pictures, I didn't mind a couple of the changes. Now I've actually had a chance to look at them in game, I've changed my mind. They're absolutely hideous.
I'm sorry, but to take the beautiful, unique look of the Redguard style, and change it to what looks like the same cookie cutter style as many of the others with barely anything to distinguish it as unique to Redguard is a horrible move. You haven't improved it at all I don't think, you've just destroyed the entire style and taken away something that was really quite different than most of the other armours.I'm so sad and disapointed about the changes made to the light and medium armor of the Redguard than I clearly state: I don't like the changes.
I'm also a little bit upset that Zenimax only pick up questions of people enjoying the changes for the Q&A, while there was plenty of questions that illustrate better how the majority of poeple are actually NOT liking the changes. While not a lie this was completely biased towards something not representative of the reality of things!
I even asked a question that was intently formulated in a positive way, to have all my chances to see it answered (I really enjoyed the old style, can we hope to see it asa costume in the cash shop or as a different motifs)
The old light and medium armor for the Redguard were looking awesome! It was seducive, mysterious, exotic, original and creative. The new light armor are plain and boring. It's honnestly a ugly nightdress.
Definitely this.
I would really love to see the original styles returned rather than put my characters into these shapeless sacks.
This pretty much removes two crafting styles from my characters wardrobes, as I couldn't bear to look at them running around in these now ugly styles
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✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesOh Daedra bless it. The redguard heavy armor boots are clunky and dorky. The Heavy armor pants, as well as the medium curiass and pants are both ill fitting and ... well dorky for lack of a better word.
Now granted, I was NOT really a fan of the old redguard medium. Here it is on my gal as she meets the menagerie. Took me quite a while to find a dye job that worked for me:
The update changed it into a walmart-esque cross between ill-fitting jammies and a cheezy crappy imitation "suit":
You don't even want to know how wrinkled and dorky the back looksTenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis1 -
Cyrene✭Overall I don't like the changesHATE. IT. Just logged in for the first time and had left my main wearing the Redguard Sea Drake disguise (literally one of the few things I had left to wear); now also transformed into one big hessian sack full of ugly. Not only that but anyone with a passing visual sense can see that the design is completely out – that banded detail on the chest literally flattens out the female form almost completely. Cover up the ****. Hide the ****. RIP ****. Disturbingly puritanical and I don't appreciate it one little bit.
Give me my **** back.
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✭✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesI'm still trying to figure out how they justify completely ignoring the huge outcry against this change that no one even asked for. How did they let this go live????PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!1 -
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✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesOh, in case it wasn't obvious, the boots & guards are Khajiit and didn't change too much (back of the boots is a bit different, but not too horrible). Pauldrons are altmer medium I think.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
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✭Overall I don't like the changesI cancelled my account because of the changes to Redguard heavy armor. Normally I wouldn't take such drastic action over something like that, but the graphics/aesthetics/etc. of this game was the only thing keeping me going, even more so now in 1.6 given that we won't be getting any new content for half a year. With that gone, I saw no reason to keep paying.
Offer both armors or fix the Redguard heavy armor pants (they are not heavy armor, they are leather for some reason) and I'll come back.1 -
captainbeautifulSoul ShrivenOverall I don't like the changesYou turned my quasi-sexy Redguard loungewear into a Burka!
WHY?!?!?
Edited by captainbeautiful on March 5, 2015 3:14AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesThat is a good question. Why the change?Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
Demira✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesnewtinmpls wrote: »That is a good question. Why the change?
That is what I would like to know!
if they are going to change the armor ...use the dang skyrim design and make the players look elegant and fearsome like we should look. Not some bum.1 -
Rikal✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesThis is a real puzzler. With all the other things they could/should be spending time on..... It boggles the mind.
Or is the plan to change all the in game armor to junk and then sell us the look we had before in the crown store?Rikal on NA-PC (aka Rhaulikko)0 -
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✭Medium and heavy look cool. Light looks awful, especially Redguard. It's totally ruined the Midnight Union disguise too.Allow cross-platform transfers and merges0 -
Overall I don't like the changesrhaulikkoub17_ESO wrote: »This is a real puzzler. With all the other things they could/should be spending time on..... It boggles the mind.
Or is the plan to change all the in game armor to junk and then sell us the look we had before in the crown store?
They could have just put costume versions of the armor in the store and kept the armor versions as they were. I have seen this done with other games very effectively.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesApparently costumes (as they are now - speaking from finding "bits" after 1.6) replace armor but provide no protection.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
jelliedsoup✭✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changes
red guard boots are bulky and look shiteEmma_Eunjung wrote: »I love the new Redguard look... my "Desert Rose" set looks so much cooler now!
www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO40 -
ElfFromSpace✭✭✭✭Overall I don't like the changesI saw this questing yesterday and it made me weep ;( Did the staff even LOOK at what this did to the NPCs?
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