Looking for help with a Sorc PvP build.

Lannden · March 2015

Hello, I'm relatively new to the game and as I understand it there's alot of people saying sorcs suck. Regardless of whether they suck or not could some body help me with the best possibly Sorc PvP build given the situation?

Panda244 · March 2015

Sword/Board and Restoration Staff/Destruction Staff... As far as sets go, I'd say Seducer/Magnus/Warlock/Adroitness are all good combinations, maybe Syrabane's Grip? Never played a Sorcerer past level ten. @Ezareth Help this guy out Ez, you know more about Biscuits and Sorcerers than any human being born in the last century!

Definitely going to want Conjured Ward on your bars, Overload/Negate for your Ultimates, maybe Ice Comet (Mage's Guild Ultimate) If you're going to be a Magicka-Based character then spread out attributes between Health and Magicka, Stamina -is- useful as any class as you need it to CC break and Roll Dodge, but if you're agile with your Bolt Escapes (Must Have For PvP) then you shouldn't have to worry that much, Daedric Minefield is a lovely ability for PvP as well, allows you to lure people into them and Root them in place for a second.

Sublime · March 2015

Depends quite a bit on your playstyle, personally I prefer to go glass-cannon, which means you take every bit of magicka/spell power you can.

Skill wise, I'd suggest to try out Crystal Fragments, Velocious Curse, Mage's Wrath, Crushing Shock, Degeneration and Ice Cometh on the Destro bar. For the defensive all you need is Hardened Ward, Harness Magicka and Healing Ward, the rest can be swapped around based on what you need. I'd certainly use Ball of Lightning, the bar doesn't really matter however.

Ezareth · March 2015

Panda244 wrote: »

Sword/Board and Restoration Staff/Destruction Staff... As far as sets go, I'd say Seducer/Magnus/Warlock/Adroitness are all good combinations, maybe Syrabane's Grip? Never played a Sorcerer past level ten. @Ezareth Help this guy out Ez, you know more about Biscuits and Sorcerers than any human being born in the last century!

Definitely going to want Conjured Ward on your bars, Overload/Negate for your Ultimates, maybe Ice Comet (Mage's Guild Ultimate) If you're going to be a Magicka-Based character then spread out attributes between Health and Magicka, Stamina -is- useful as any class as you need it to CC break and Roll Dodge, but if you're agile with your Bolt Escapes (Must Have For PvP) then you shouldn't have to worry that much, Daedric Minefield is a lovely ability for PvP as well, allows you to lure people into them and Root them in place for a second.

@Panda244

I know more about Biscuits for sure but that is another forum. I know more about trolling than I do about sorcs.

@Lannden There is no *Best* build out there. I've seen players copy the builds exactly of other players who are really good and do poorly with them as they try to apply the build to their own individual playstyle. My advice is to find the spells and abilities you like most in your sorc and refine those. People can be successful with Stamina Sorcs, Caster Sorcs but a hybrid sorc that tries to do both stamina and caster abilities will suck.

I can give you a few pointers. Don't try to do everything. ESO PvP is usually about Min/maxing and specialization. Maximizing your magicka and not your health is pretty much the new sorc meta if you're going light armor. Spell cost reduction enchants on your Jewelry are going to be pretty much standard as well. Hardened Ward and Dampen Magicka are going to be pretty standard fare as well.

The jury is still out on food buffs versus drink buffs but I prefer drink myself.

Beyond that, you really just need to out in Cyrodiil and *learn*. Nothing I type in this forum will make as much sense if you don't have at least some experience under your belt.

david.haypreub18_ESO · March 2015

You prefer Dampen over Harness Magicka Ezareth? I've switched to Harness and, while it is not as good as it once was, it is still pretty good. When shield-stacking, I cast it first and Hardened Ward second, to make sure I get the magicka return.

Snit · March 2015

Decide what to stack. It'll be either Magicka or Spell Power for casters. Each has advantages.

Magicka:
- Adds to your shields, for survivability
- Adds to your damage
- Increases pet damage (if you use pets)
- Increases sustain somewhat
- Synergizes well with a build that uses multiple Mage Guild skills, as each will passively add a percentage of max magicka

Spell Power:
- Adds a lot to your damage, much more than magicka
- Does nothing for your shields or your pets
- Synergizes with a build that has many sorc spells on the bar, as each will increase spell power by 2%

I'm testing many different loadouts, but I currently prefer Spell Power, as the damage from a magicka-stacking spec seems insufficient to burst down any templar or DK who's actually at the keyboard. I die a lot, though.

Tankqull · March 2015

well from my pov there are 3 musthaves for pvp on a sorc, a bolt escape morph you prefer, healing ward and hardend ward. beside that its pretty much up to you what you like and feel comfortable with.
quipment wise the only thing that has to be used are 3 golden cost reduce glyphs but that is common for every class. everything else is a nice icing on the cake.
i´ve tested full dmg equipment martial knowladge+cyrodiils light+adroitness and full sustain with warlock+engine guardian+magus but its up to you what to choose as all have their pros and cons.

Ezareth · March 2015

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

You prefer Dampen over Harness Magicka Ezareth? I've switched to Harness and, while it is not as good as it once was, it is still pretty good. When shield-stacking, I cast it first and Hardened Ward second, to make sure I get the magicka return.

david.haypreub18_ESO

Dampen Magicka is vastly superior to Harness unless you're having magicka issues which I haven't had yet. This is because of the math behind the Champion System

If you Max Bastion you get a 25% Boost to your shields.

If your Harness Magicka is 10K you it would be 12.5K with max Bastion.
Your Dampen however would be 14.2*1.25 which would make it 17.75 K. Basically the 42% Bonus becomes 52.5% with max bastion and Harness has no similar compounding effect.

Hardened Ward also benefits from this multiplicative benefit with its 33% bonus. That 33% becomes 41.25 with max Bastion.

I stack my Dampen on the "outside" now where before I used to stack it on the inside to ensure I got as many "return procs" as possible. The reason for this is because due to the existing crappy shield interface there is no way to tell if your remaining shield is magicka only or both so I try to minimize the occurrences of only magick shield remaining by putting it on last and thus ensuring it is taken down first.

The end result is my Dampen right now is roughly 30% more than my Hardened ward and costs slightly point for point than hardened.