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Why are there no distintively male costumes in the upcoming crown store?
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to point out, there are 2 dresses, which while can be worn by a male (Nord men doing /danceredguard in a wedding dress ^^) there is nothing "Male Specific" which i find odd... something like a Tux. all the others are quite arguably unisex but there is no Male Oriented costumes in the upcoming crown store (unless there is not press released bits)
there is nothing that says a guy cant wear a dress or a girl wear a tux, but when there is only the one option i have to point out the resulting bias.
to also point out, where are the noble outfits? like those expensive clothing you might remember from skyrim or oblivion that did nothing but look fancy and expensive... that seems like a no brainier for the crown store.
now that i think about it tho, girls always get more gender identifying outfits in games...
there is nothing that says a guy cant wear a dress or a girl wear a tux, but when there is only the one option i have to point out the resulting bias.
to also point out, where are the noble outfits? like those expensive clothing you might remember from skyrim or oblivion that did nothing but look fancy and expensive... that seems like a no brainier for the crown store.
now that i think about it tho, girls always get more gender identifying outfits in games...
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✭✭✭✭✭One could bring up the issue that not all women want a wedding dress for their fancy dress. I mean, wouldn't some want a Ball Gown, or even a simple black cocktail dress? If a wedding dress is all that women (or those who want to wear women's clothes) can aspire to, what does that say about the perception of the female gender by the devs?Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.
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Smaxx✭✭✭✭✭Just give them some time.
I bet they want to see how people react first before trying to add any more clothing options (also to see what people think of their current "unisex" approach). 0 -
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✭Please no tuxes or suits. Yes to doublets, jerkins and other period/lore appropriate fare.
Edit: While we're at it, all this new clothing we can steal is totally useless because it takes up your armour slots. If that stuff could be made into costumes, say, using a costume conversion gem, it'll get ZOS more income and actually put their hard work on those designs to good use.Edited by ItsGlaive on February 24, 2015 10:52PMAllow cross-platform transfers and merges2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Please no tuxes or suits. Yes to doublets, jerkins and other period/lore appropriate fare.
Edit: While we're at it, all this new clothing we can steal is totally useless because it takes up your armour slots. If that stuff could be made into costumes, say, using a costume conversion gem, it'll get ZOS more income and actually put their hard work on those designs to good use.
The new clothing is more about roleplaying than useful items. If they occupied a separate slot under your armor... like the clothing in Morrowind, and peaked out wherever your armor didn't cover... I'm showing my age now, aren't I?0 -
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Yeah. I only want that dress for kicks and giggles (I'm still waiting for a bear mount. Bearded Nords in wedding dresses, riding bears? Yes please.) I wouldn't wear it on any real formal occassion. I am so not the white wedding dress kind of girl and neither are my characters.One could bring up the issue that not all women want a wedding dress for their fancy dress. I mean, wouldn't some want a Ball Gown, or even a simple black cocktail dress? If a wedding dress is all that women (or those who want to wear women's clothes) can aspire to, what does that say about the perception of the female gender by the devs?
+1 for more variety. I have no doubt it'll come soon(ish), there's money to be made so ZOS won't pass it up.1 -
Ffastyl✭✭✭✭✭I remember ZOS showing a ball gown dress and other variations on an ESO Live... but I do not remember any distinctly male outfits, unless you count armor as masculine."A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
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Smaxx✭✭✭✭✭I remember ZOS showing a ball gown dress and other variations on an ESO Live... but I do not remember any distinctly male outfits, unless you count armor as masculine.
Actually, you could consider the Blacksmith a typical male outfit, even though there are female characters working in smithies in the game.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I remember ZOS showing a ball gown dress and other variations on an ESO Live... but I do not remember any distinctly male outfits, unless you count armor as masculine.
Actually, you could consider the Blacksmith a typical male outfit, even though there are female characters working in smithies in the game.
The same thing's probably true of the chef's outfit, for whatever that's worth.
Honestly, this is more of a cultural thing anyway. Just in general, there are far more pieces of clothing you're likely to identify as female only than male only.0 -
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✭starkerealm wrote: »I remember ZOS showing a ball gown dress and other variations on an ESO Live... but I do not remember any distinctly male outfits, unless you count armor as masculine.
Actually, you could consider the Blacksmith a typical male outfit, even though there are female characters working in smithies in the game.
The same thing's probably true of the chef's outfit, for whatever that's worth.
Honestly, this is more of a cultural thing anyway. Just in general, there are far more pieces of clothing you're likely to identify as female only than male only.
totally male identifiable. =DI play every class in every situation. I love them all.2 -
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✭timidobserver wrote: »The current social climate says that gender exclusive things are bad, regardless of whether they make sense or not.
to be fair, they are not exclusively available to female characters.I play every class in every situation. I love them all.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I am still waiting for some "eso style goth dress" costumes...
But agreed, no tuxes or other real world costumes, please. Tamriel-ic male specific costumes on the other hand... bring them on! We have a dress for the bride, a richly decorated waistcoat or whatever for the groom wouldn't be wrong...
But I expect as time goes by, the crown store will get a lot of costumes. After all, if it makes them extra money... they will provide. I for one will be likely to make some purchases in the "civilian fashipn" department...0 -
SanderBuraas✭✭✭✭✭TwilightDragonite wrote: »
This is not a situation where it is attempted to shift away the focus of an issue.
The original poster of this thread has stated that though there is no issue that we have wedding dresses that may be used by both male and female characters, he would like to have the option to wear a different ceremonial garment - such as the traditionally male worn wedding dress. (http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Wedding_Dress)Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »there is nothing that says a guy cant wear a dress or a girl wear a tux, but when there is only the one option i have to point out the resulting bias.
It is a fair proposal.
Edited by SanderBuraas on February 25, 2015 4:58AM0
