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Where Are The Dragons?

  • DaniAngione
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    There are dragons.

    ESO is set in the time period known as the Interregnum, which ends with our ol' pal Talos, that will take back the Empire, achieve CHIM and rise to divine status.

    So, if the game is set BEFORE Talos, according to the lorebook "There Be Dragons" by Torhal Bjorik, (and I'll quote here):
    The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim. He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him.

    So, they were in small numbers already, sure. But dragons remained. They won't be a common mob or anything, but I'm fairly sure that they can (and most likely will) give us a dragon or two to battle as a dungeon or trial boss (maybe a world event?) or something like that. I'd love to see that!

    EDIT: I'd love to befriend a dragon, too. So I'm all in for a special, end-game story arc that could revolve around the rivalry between two dragons, for example, and we get to choose the one we'll side with ;)
    Edited by DaniAngione on February 22, 2015 2:41PM
  • Artemiisia
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    There are Titans

    1 in cyrodil
    1 in City of Ash

    the can spawn in vDSA on sacrifice stage

    probably more
  • Majic
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    More importantly...

    Q: "Where Are The Dragon Mounts?"

    A: Coming soon to the Crown Store for your convenience.




    (Just kidding. I think.) :p

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  • dharbert
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    Deadric Titans are as close to a dragon as your are going to get.

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  • Panda244
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    According to the lorebook "There Be Dragons" by Torhal Bjorik, "The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim." He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him.

    Elder Scrolls Online = 2E 582
    Tiber Septim Birth = 2E 828 (Allegedly)

    246 years AFTER Elder Scrolls Online takes place Tiber Septim IS BORN and the last known Dragon sightings take place during his life time, meaning there are currently living Dragons in Tamriel, Akavir, and other realms of existence. So yes, while they could technically be seen in ESO, it wouldn't naturally make sense, as stated by USEP. "They are distrustful creatures, even of each other." As most Dragons were basically curb stomped why exactly would one risk it's life to come out during a time of chaos such as this, the Soulburst, Molag Bal would certainly have an interest in a Dragon if one were to spring up out of nowhere. But why would the Dragon do so in the first place, if they ever, ever, release Akavir as a zone, then by all means bring in the Dragons.

    But for one to appear during this specific time period the reason as to why better be really good, or I'll beat my head over it repeatedly until I die. Currently as of right now in The Elder Scrolls Timeline, the last Dragons to have been seen would be the ones that died in The Dragon Wars, which took place in the Merethic Era, so a long long time ago. Honestly the only reason on the wiki that I could see a Dragon wanting to risk it's life to come out of hiding DURING the Soulburst. "Despite this, they are also somewhat social."

    So yeah, Dragons are a no-go unless we get an Akavir DLC. Tiber Septim started his reign in 2E 854, and during that he was wiping out or enslaving Dragons, so unless Zenimax decides to make the Dragons mentioned earlier in this post, that we know are hiding some places, available, then I can't see them coming into play at all. Even then, our player character wouldn't be able to do jack diddly squat against a Dragon that can use the voice, nothing at all would phase it. It's kill us with it's voice before we got in range to talk to it..... Sure, they may be social, they're also giant territorial bossy beasts.
    Edited by Panda244 on February 22, 2015 3:41PM
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  • Gidorick
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    I hate to say it, but I bet at SOME point dragons are placed into the game for money reasons
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
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  • Panda244
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    I hate to say it, but I bet at SOME point dragons are placed into the game for money reasons
    I'd bang my face into my toaster until the outside casing broke the red-hot metal lines burned a tic-tac-toe board into my face, and then I'd stick my head in the Microwave until I died of radiation.
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  • timidobserver
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    The amount of lore people in this thread shouting people down is hilarious. If ZOS decides they want a dragon there will be a dragon. Just like hordes bretons riding tiger mounts and books that technically haven't been written yet.
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  • Gidorick
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    @timidobserver speaks the truth.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
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  • starkerealm
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    The amount of lore people in this thread shouting people down is hilarious. If ZOS decides they want a dragon there will be a dragon. Just like hordes bretons riding tiger mounts and books that technically haven't been written yet.

    Just like in Skyrim...
  • Panda244
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    Gidorick wrote: »
    @timidobserver speaks the truth.
    So what if he speaks the truth, all we have to do to prevent a Dragon appearing in ESO is not have the Dragon appear. Oh wait... Did... Waffles... Potato... Am I suppose to be making sense....?
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  • StaticWax
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  • BugCollector
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    According to a book in City of Ash veteran mode, Daedric Titans are apparently corrupted dragons. So there you go.
    May knowledge guide you to enlightenment
  • starkerealm
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @timidobserver speaks the truth.
    So what if he speaks the truth, all we have to do to prevent a Dragon appearing in ESO is not have the Dragon appear. Oh wait... Did... Waffles... Potato... Am I suppose to be making sense....?
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  • mrvbalc
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Cody wrote: »
    I expect to eventually see a Dragon boss in one of the eventual trials, raids, or other endgame content. I doubt dragons will ever become common place though. It will just be one dragon that they some how explain into existence.

    that would be interesting.

    I'm cool with it being one Dragon that they explain into existence, but it'd best be the hardest boss fight in the entire game, and a 24-Man raid, because Dragons can flick off Daedric Princes and get away with it. Not to mention it could literally one shot the entire group with the following shouts.
    • Marked For Death
    • Soul Tear
    • Devour Soul
    • Meteor Storm

    nice
    You missed another badass thu'um
    Unrelenting force
    imagine dragon blast all 24 people in the group and getting damage cause of falling mainly interrupting all attacks we are doing atm
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  • mrvbalc
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    There is still one dragon left. At the moment its fighting for AD.
    Last dragon of Targaryens
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    As always Dragon of the Dominion
  • DaniAngione
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    According to the lorebook "There Be Dragons" by Torhal Bjorik, "The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim." He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him.

    Elder Scrolls Online = 2E 582
    Tiber Septim Birth = 2E 828 (Allegedly)

    246 years AFTER Elder Scrolls Online takes place Tiber Septim IS BORN and the last known Dragon sightings take place during his life time, meaning there are currently living Dragons in Tamriel, Akavir, and other realms of existence. So yes, while they could technically be seen in ESO, it wouldn't naturally make sense, as stated by USEP. "They are distrustful creatures, even of each other." As most Dragons were basically curb stomped why exactly would one risk it's life to come out during a time of chaos such as this, the Soulburst, Molag Bal would certainly have an interest in a Dragon if one were to spring up out of nowhere. But why would the Dragon do so in the first place, if they ever, ever, release Akavir as a zone, then by all means bring in the Dragons.

    But for one to appear during this specific time period the reason as to why better be really good, or I'll beat my head over it repeatedly until I die. Currently as of right now in The Elder Scrolls Timeline, the last Dragons to have been seen would be the ones that died in The Dragon Wars, which took place in the Merethic Era, so a long long time ago. Honestly the only reason on the wiki that I could see a Dragon wanting to risk it's life to come out of hiding DURING the Soulburst. "Despite this, they are also somewhat social."

    So yeah, Dragons are a no-go unless we get an Akavir DLC. Tiber Septim started his reign in 2E 854, and during that he was wiping out or enslaving Dragons, so unless Zenimax decides to make the Dragons mentioned earlier in this post, that we know are hiding some places, available, then I can't see them coming into play at all. Even then, our player character wouldn't be able to do jack diddly squat against a Dragon that can use the voice, nothing at all would phase it. It's kill us with it's voice before we got in range to talk to it..... Sure, they may be social, they're also giant territorial bossy beasts.

    You basically quoted me to say the same thing I did in 25 more lines :smiley:

    Anyway, I wouldn't put the dragons so high. Yes, they have the voice, but the Wiki also states that they were being hunted down heavily. That means that:
    1- not every dragon is as powerful as to not be beaten by a well trained group of individuals.
    2- they weren't hiding that well.

    So, yes, there's a lot of room for dragons in the game without forcing you to break your head against a toaster ;)

  • GreySix
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    They're locked up with the cloaks and capes and the barber shop.

    ... reaches for a cloak


    "What the .... aaaaaaah!"
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  • UrQuan
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    As others have said, lore-wise there are still dragons in Tamriel. By this time period, though, almost all of them have been killed (not permanently, though, as Skyrim shows), and the few remaining ones are almost certainly all in hiding.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually see one dragon in the game as a powerful raid boss. It would be lore-friendly (as long as it doesn't mean that dragons start appearing everywhere), and frankly it would be awesome.

    Actually, what I'd really like to see is an adventure zone that's intended for groups, but where most of the content can be done solo by a VR14 if you're skilled. It would include a series of quests and dungeons, and the final quest of the zone would send you to an epic raid, where the final boss is a powerful dragon, who has been the villain behind the entire storyline of the zone. I think that would be really cool, and it wouldn't be lore-breaking in any way.
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  • Gedalya
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  • k9mouse
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    We have Dragon Knights, where are the dragons? From a lore perspective in the timeline the game is in they should exist, at least from what I gathered playing Skyrim.

    Don't talk to loud! You might wake the Dragons up! They are asleep and will not wake up till the 4th era (Skyrim Time). [ESO is in the 2ND era, year 587) [Skyrim is 1,000 years after ESO time line, Oblivion / Morrowind is 800 years after ESO Timeline)

    Edited by k9mouse on February 22, 2015 9:03PM
  • Throren
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    k9mouse wrote: »
    We have Dragon Knights, where are the dragons? From a lore perspective in the timeline the game is in they should exist, at least from what I gathered playing Skyrim.

    Don't talk to loud! You might wake the Dragons up! They are asleep and will not wake up till the 4th era (Skyrim Time). [ESO is in the 2ND era, year 587) [Skyrim is 1,000 years after ESO time line, Oblivion / Morrowind is 800 years after ESO Timeline)

    If by asleep you mean dead and waiting for alduin to revive them then yes xD
  • bosmern_ESO
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    We have Dragon Knights, where are the dragons? From a lore perspective in the timeline the game is in they should exist, at least from what I gathered playing Skyrim.

    Dragons lived in Elder scrolls in the first Era, They were all but a few wiped out (alduin and para). ESO takes place in the second era, where none live.

    In Skyrim you learn that a group of Dragon born created their own shout and sent Alduin forward in time to the 4th Era which Skyrim takes place. Alduin being the king of dragons could resurrect other dragons which he did in Skyrim.
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  • Throren
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    In Skyrim you learn that a group of Dragon born created their own shout and sent Alduin forward in time to the 4th Era which Skyrim takes place.

    The three that send Alduin forward in time (with use of an elder scroll) aren't dragonborn. They are just tongues (masters of the way of the voice) but they aren't dragonborn.

  • UrQuan
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    Dragons lived in Elder scrolls in the first Era, They were all but a few wiped out (alduin and para). ESO takes place in the second era, where none live.
    That's not entirely true. There were still a few dragons living, and occasionally sighted, during the life of Tiber Septim, which was a couple of hundred years after the time of ESO.

    They were mostly wiped out in the first era, but by the time of ESO in the second era there are still more of them alive than just Alduin (who technically isn't alive in this time period at all, as he doesn't exist in this time period, having been flung through time right past it) and Paarthurnax.
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  • deepseamk20b14_ESO
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    Well the beauty of written history is that not all history is actually recorded. Just like now there are still many things we do not know about human civilizations past. Heck, every few months someone finds an artifact that predates previous assumptions on when ***-sapiens first developed on earth.

    This being said, who is to say there was a few dragons still lurking around, hidden from men and mer. Perhaps someone even found these dragons but didn't live to tell about it, therefore no way to write the encounter into Tamriels history. Just because there hasn't be a detailed account of a dragon sighting during the era ESO takes place doesn't mean they aren't there :).

    Perhaps one day there will even be a patch that allows us to go to another one of the Elder Scrolls dimensions where the dragons souls are and we battle them there in a spiritual form or something! It could easily be written into the game since it already includes Varen Aquilarios who was the emporer of Cyrodiil that wasn't actually dragonborn, perhaps Akatosh looks upon the adventurer (us) with great admiration for what we have done and requires us in some way or another to help stop Alduin from entering the current era, causing him to be stuck in their own realms until the 4th era. Or even perhaps Hermaeus Mora decides he wants us to contain Miraak (from Skyrim: Dragonborn DLC) so he stays trapped until the 4th era.
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  • StaticWax
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    Gidorick wrote: »
    @timidobserver speaks the truth.
    So what if he speaks the truth, all we have to do to prevent a Dragon appearing in ESO is not have the Dragon appear. Oh wait... Did... Waffles... Potato... Am I suppose to be making sense....?
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  • Theosis
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    If I wanted dragon mounts Id go back to the armpit that World of Warcraft has become.
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Panda244 wrote: »
    According to the lorebook "There Be Dragons" by Torhal Bjorik, "The last known sighting of a dragon in Tamriel was in the time of Tiber Septim." He made a pact with the few remaining dragons, swearing to protect them if they would serve him.

    Elder Scrolls Online = 2E 582
    Tiber Septim Birth = 2E 828 (Allegedly)

    246 years AFTER Elder Scrolls Online takes place Tiber Septim IS BORN and the last known Dragon sightings take place during his life time, meaning there are currently living Dragons in Tamriel, Akavir, and other realms of existence. So yes, while they could technically be seen in ESO, it wouldn't naturally make sense, as stated by USEP. "They are distrustful creatures, even of each other." As most Dragons were basically curb stomped why exactly would one risk it's life to come out during a time of chaos such as this, the Soulburst, Molag Bal would certainly have an interest in a Dragon if one were to spring up out of nowhere. But why would the Dragon do so in the first place, if they ever, ever, release Akavir as a zone, then by all means bring in the Dragons.

    But for one to appear during this specific time period the reason as to why better be really good, or I'll beat my head over it repeatedly until I die. Currently as of right now in The Elder Scrolls Timeline, the last Dragons to have been seen would be the ones that died in The Dragon Wars, which took place in the Merethic Era, so a long long time ago. Honestly the only reason on the wiki that I could see a Dragon wanting to risk it's life to come out of hiding DURING the Soulburst. "Despite this, they are also somewhat social."

    So yeah, Dragons are a no-go unless we get an Akavir DLC. Tiber Septim started his reign in 2E 854, and during that he was wiping out or enslaving Dragons, so unless Zenimax decides to make the Dragons mentioned earlier in this post, that we know are hiding some places, available, then I can't see them coming into play at all. Even then, our player character wouldn't be able to do jack diddly squat against a Dragon that can use the voice, nothing at all would phase it. It's kill us with it's voice before we got in range to talk to it..... Sure, they may be social, they're also giant territorial bossy beasts.

    Given the story of Pelinal, Morihaus, and Alessia... as well as the story of Wulfharth, Tiber, and Zurin Arctus I have reason to believe that the Dying Companion & Shriven Hero share common traits. Also, in the way in which we do battle with Molag Bal, I'm greatly reminded of Martin and his battle with Mehrunes Dagon in Oblivion. In short, I suspect our heroes are all dragonborn, so it would not strike me as entirely odd if one of our kind is the ancestor of Hjalti/Tiber. At any regard, I don't think we can assume dragons can't be worked into the story, particularly with the way our characters are so intertwined with the red diamond. There is a reason we took the aedric mantle of the Emperor. How they choose to use that in future stories is up to them. I have a guess that Molag Bal is not the last Daedric prince that wants to get its meaty hooks into Nirn, and I think the door was opened up. Our heroes only stopped Molag, but without the Red Diamond I'm going to guess that more trouble is afoot, else who will light the dragon fires?
    Edited by dodgehopper_ESO on February 23, 2015 2:08AM
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  • Soulshine
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    eh... I kind of just OD'd on killing dragons in DAI, so I am kinda happy there aren't any here ;)
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