I'm personally looking forward to it and hopping to find some of these bugs for personal use(though doubt I will manage)

But kidding aside any change is find with me, though doubt my two-handed and bow stim build will be any better come the final patch.

But any change in this game is good at this point.

I don´t want to go for Stamina.. nothing else to say.

They are basically rereleasing the game. Sure the base concept of skills are the same but they all work differently. Stats are completely different. Why do we need major and minor buffs. The uniqueness of abilities are no longer there. I hate it, but i sill play it. I hope some miracle jazz happens and doesnt make it so bad. REVERT NUMER CHANGESBTO CRIT AND DAMAGE COUGH COUGH. If my 3k HP in cyro is 2.1k in pts i dont need an extra 0 to delude me into thinking i have enough HP. what we could judge isnt there anymore.

It may take another year to rebalance everything and fix the new bugs that will come with a patch this big.

The ult change is very lame (light attack to gain ult? .. That's so anticlimatic)

I have to grind for another year (or more, probably more) to finally be 'max level' again (champion points)

No new pvp updates.. For a while.

They nerfed vet grinds (why? I don't want to quest, I want to be able to grind a new class in a reasonable time frame, but Zenimax keeps slowing down the grind) ..



Meh.. I'm usually optimistic and will probably still play. It just gets frustrating.

Sypher wrote: »

It may take another year to rebalance everything and fix the new bugs that will come with a patch this big.

The ult change is very lame (light attack to gain ult? .. That's so anticlimatic)

I have to grind for another year (or more, probably more) to finally be 'max level' again (champion points)

No new pvp updates.. For a while.

They nerfed vet grinds (why? I don't want to quest, I want to be able to grind a new class in a reasonable time frame, but Zenimax keeps slowing down the grind) ..



Meh.. I'm usually optimistic and will probably still play. It just gets frustrating.

As you usually are very optimistic, this, coming from you, doesn't cheer me up haha. But you're right... I'd be okay if they added new content that we could do to grind out the CP, but we need 3,600 CP and that takes years to get, even with enlightenment all the way. I've never seen an MMO grind put in place after a year, that takes years to max out. What happens when they do max it out to? Any new player in Cyrodiil would be vaporized by someone with max champion points, absolutely shredded... It'd be like fighting The Ash Titan in CoA at level ten naked.

Things like are at live now are a death end. Builds will change. my toon is not evolving. Bring the 1.6 fast to start the game.

It was already grind enough getting to vr14. And now with grinds going to be nonexistent, I will never be able to have all the toons I want. I don't use mules, all my toons are actually used for PvP (well, I have a chef, but even she is geared if I want to take her into PvP). And now, to make sure no new players even have a chance of reaching what I have built up for a year on my maxed toons, I'm going to need to grind and grind and grind some more to get CPs. Because from what I dealt with on the PTS, getting even one CP takes forever while PvPing exclusively. I don't WANT to quest. I don't care about PvE, and 1.6 seems to just appeal to PvE players.

I'm also disappointed that we're getting bullied out of our magicka builds. I understand stamina builds want a "chance to shine," but I want balance. I want to be able to choose to be stamina or magicka build, or even a hybrid, and not feel like the other style build is more "OP" than mine. I want to be able to choose where I go with my class and not feel like I'm unbalanced. I had hoped 1.6 would bring that to the table, but it doesn't seem like that at all. I never wanted to be a stamina build, it never interested me, but it seems like it's getting shoved down our throats.

Overall, 1.6 just seems like a mega-nerf to everyone's characters so that new players stand a chance against us when they start. And that's cool or whatever, but I've been playing this game for damn near a year, and have put money into it. So I don't want my character ruined because of potential new players. Cyrodiil is going to be hell until we all get this new system sorted. good luck to everyone ):

50/50, I'm sick of waiting and just want to start playing 1.6 on live, but I think a lot of people are in for a rude shock when update 6 drops.
I oversaw a conversation in one of my guilds last night and was stunned by the lack of knowledge about update 6, plus the random misinformation seen in zone chat every day.
The PTS has been very active this time round with a lot of players jumping on to check out the new systems but it seems the majority of players have not, and still don't really understand what's coming.

I'm in the middle.

I worry full on stamina ganking NBs will be OP; i worry damage shields will become too OP, I worry I will reach warning level 3 and be forever banned from the forums(:D)
I worry that sorcerers will be almost completely useless save for pet and negate builds; I worry that cloak will always be broken; i worry 95% of the player base will not have access to one of the only stamina based heals in the game for the next 9 months because ZOS decided to lock it behind a 7-12 month long grind; as well as a few other worries I have.

however, I am also pleased with some of the changes; particularly the fact I will be able to actually play a full on stamina NB with actual effectiveness. I am overall pleased with the CS(although people with all 3600 CPs are extremely OP, and I hope ZOS gets that fixed before people start getting all 3600 CP) I am pleased with the fact people in Light armor actually die now when attacked, I am happy with all the new animations(I LOVE the new animations) and I like some of the ability changes.

Overall, im in the middle on this topic. Wish there was a choice stating that:(

and someone tell panda to come gank with me come 1.6:)

Cody wrote: »

I'm in the middle.

I worry full on stamina ganking NBs will be OP; i worry damage shields will become too OP, I worry I will reach warning level 3 and be forever banned from the forums(:D)
I worry that sorcerers will be almost completely useless save for pet and negate builds; I worry that cloak will always be broken; i worry 95% of the player base will not have access to one of the only stamina based heals in the game for the next 9 months because ZOS decided to lock it behind a 7-12 month long grind; as well as a few other worries I have.

however, I am also pleased with some of the changes; particularly the fact I will be able to actually play a full on stamina NB with actual effectiveness. I am overall pleased with the CS(although people with all 3600 CPs are extremely OP, and I hope ZOS gets that fixed before people start getting all 3600 CP) I am pleased with the fact people in Light armor actually die now when attacked, I am happy with all the new animations(I LOVE the new animations) and I like some of the ability changes.

Overall, im in the middle on this topic. Wish there was a choice stating that:(

and someone tell panda to come gank with me come 1.6:)

I hate ganking, I hate gankers, I hate the thought of ganking with a ganker, and I hate being ganked. I'll come sneak around with you on a Templar or Sorcerer and fight while you run away or re-position for another stealth attack, but I'll never gank with you. Never. Ever ever.

Rylana wrote: »

I will not pick either response, as I agree partially with both.

I want the fixes, I do not want the new balance system. Established long term characters with literal months of played time thrown back to the day they were basically rolled, with everything obtained until now potentially obsoleted and replaced... along with relearning and mastering what is essentially an entirely new buff system... is probably the biggest turn off to the longetivity of my playing of this game.

I will move forward, will attempt to adapt, but if it proves to be too much of a change, I will be ending my time with this game. ive been jerked around one time too many in the past, and having lived through the horror of SWG NGE and the complete overhaul of STO, I do not have the patience nor the stomach to basically "do over" my entire set of characters from basically scratch.

Major game changers like this are always a mistake.

I think they did it more for console players... They won't have to relearn anything unless they switched to console from PC, and that's like .01% of the playerbase currently. So the veteran players that do stay are stuck here to twiddle their thumbs, craft new sets, and grind the same old content to get back to a strength they were previously at....

Also, first post without a single hint of troll that I've seen... No more LOL farming @Rylana ?

Let's take a quick peek into the buggy abyss of 1.6.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KNOWN ISSUES
Audio

• You may lose all audio after playing for a period of time. Completely closing the client and restarting will fix this.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

1.6 will be what it will be, if I find myself not having fun any longer, guess I will move on, but I don't see it killing my fun, I will have to make adjustments to my play style and that is nothing new to mmo play though the years.

Its painfully obvious that the patch is NOT close to ready yet. id rather have back the state of the game at reelease then 1.6.