Things I miss from prior Elder Scrolls games

Iago · February 2015

1.) Dark nights, Morrowind Dark nights

2.) I miss the almost constantly creepy atmosphere that Morrowind had

3.) The spells of Mark and Recall

4.) Hircines Ring as it existed in TES III Morrowind

5.) The scrolls of Icarian flight (I know full well these will never be implemented in game as they would break a lot of the mechanics)

6.) Daedric relics in General like the Lords Mail and Stendarr's Hammer

7.) Black soul gems should still be needed to harvest human souls, and if they don't want to make black soul gems then at least offer an in game explanation as to why the Black Soul Gems are not needed to trap human souls in the second Era but they are needed from the Third Era on.

8.) Torches that could be carried and would eventually burn out.

9.) The spell of light that you could cast on yourself

10.) Racial's special abilities like chameleon, night eye, ancestral guardian, water breathing etc.

Gilvoth · February 2015

i like this thread

good stuff here and i will in-time post a few of my own, as right now i dont have the energy, but, i will gather a list and add to your list as soon as felling better and over this cold.
thanx for the post

Shunravi · February 2015

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

i like this thread
good stuff here and i will in-time post a few of my own, as right now i dont have the energy, but, i will gather a list and add to your list as soon as felling better and over this cold.
thanx for the post

^
My first;

1) non-restrictive classes.

Nestor · February 2015

What do I miss from previous games? Homes and Storage.

IrishGirlGamer · February 2015

I love this! You deserve an awesome. Morrowind wasn't my favorite TES game and I'm not sure all of this would fit into the ESO world, but it was a wonderful trip down memory lane.

I particularly remember Mark & Recall. My TES game was Oblivion and only afterwards did I play Morrowind. I remember finding my first Mark amulet (oddly enough, it was one of the very first things I found in the first game I played) and being, like, what?? And then many hours later I found a Recall amulet and tried to use and ... whoosh! I thought I'd broken my game.

In the end it was like getting kissed for the first time: you're like: what ... is ... this? Then you figure it out and it's like ... Oh! That's nice!

What I liked about it was the creativity in the design. You had to find the spell/amulet and learn to use it. It made sense, in a magical world. It wasn't just "Click this icon on a map and jump to your location."

I do miss all the classes, and the TES classes, and I really wish they hadn't felt the need to change them.

SanderBuraas · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

10.) Racial's special abilities like chameleon, night eye, ancestral guardian, water breathing etc.

In the latest ESO Live, they touched on what was said to be racial ultimates, which is definitely interesting. Though this is only on the drawing board as of now. I'd rather like to see active abilities though.

Athas24 · February 2015

I do miss doing Aedra or Daedra quest related items. It would be interesting to have to find a questline for this and have the chance at an item. Maybe the item would be slightly better than whatever you get at that level or it could be end game related and it would be a purple tier drop that you could get by doing the quest. The quests could even lead to dungeons that you would have the ability to do with others (although I'd rather have it solo content). If the relic was obtainable at lower levels perhaps it could scale with you as you level to keep it relevant. Maybe instead of weapons/armor and items it offered the chance for more skill points or unique spells or skills (would have to ensure they don't break pve/pvp ovbiously). It would just be something fun for lore buffs who enjoy those longer quests.

Lord_Draevan · February 2015

Wes Johnson voicing Sheogorath. New guy's good, but... he's no Wes Johnson.

Sallington · February 2015

You could literally make a list of everything in Morrowind for me.

ashlee17 · February 2015

Great thread... I miss so many things from previous eso games.

Unarmed skill
Mud crabs that were tough
Spells! (light, teleportation, muffle, silence)
Stealing forks
Lifting baskets on to the heads of npcs I don't like
Really severe sandstorms (red Mountian)
Underwater swimming
I miss the lockpicking style in morrowwind
Drinking and selling skins
Merchant mud crab

You guys are making me all nostalgic here

Each time I read a new thing you all miss I smile when I remember it then sigh because it's not in ESO yet. Lol

Ourorboros · February 2015

I miss alchemy and enchanting skills with more complexity and options.
Also miss conjuration skills and spells that aren't limited to two summonable creatures.

Shadesofkin · February 2015

I miss Aedric and Daedric quests specifically. I'd love to see the Knights of the 9 (8) and Dadedric Quests, I especially want to traverse the Evergloam again.

UrQuan · February 2015

I'll agree on the specific Aedric and Daedric quests. I liked them a lot.

One thing that has been suggested on the forums in the past is giving you an option in ESO to choose to follow a particular member of the Divines, or a particular Daedric lord. Have a quest associated with proving your faith, and at the end you get some sort of a buff. Ideally this might take the form of allowing you to pray at a shrine to your chosen Divine/Deadra and select a particular buff from a limited number of options specific to your patron. That would then stay with you like a Mundus stone buff does, until you go back to the shrine and pray at it to pick a different buff. There could also be a quest associated with renouncing your faith if you want to switch to the worship of a different Divine or Daedric lord (you would then, of course, have to do their quest to become one of their faithful followers). OK, so that's not exactly something I miss from previous TES games, but it's something I'd like to see added because I miss the Aedric and Daedric quests from previous TES games, and this could be a substitute for them.

Another thing that I really miss from previous TES games (OK, this one is specifically from Skyrim) is Blackreach. I loved exploring Blackreach. It put me so much in mind of the old Descent into the Depths of the Earth and Vault of the Drow modules for AD&D 1e.

jeevin · February 2015

Nice thread indeed

there are so many things that I miss from previous games. A couple more are poisons and contracting diseases. Added so much to the game right there.

DaniAngione · February 2015

I just love all the suggestions! Such nostalgia!

Though some of them would require a lot of work and effort (like housing) and some of them are (unfortunately) impossible due to game mechanics as they are (and should be for an online game), there are MANY things here that are certainly easier and quick to do

So.... Let us increase a bit of Daedric Summoning skill and call forth @ZOS_MattFiror‌ to read on this post

Also, I'd like to add another minor addition that I think would make this game so much more immersive, beautiful and a true TES experience:

WEAPON SHEATHS/SCABBARDS

Please, I hate to look like a World of Warcraft character, with unsheathed weapons hanging from my belt... Give us weapons sheaths, pretty please!?
Think about it, you could even 'sell' custom scabbards in the Crown Store (wink, wink

)

And now that I mentioned it, having both our weapon sets shown at the same time (like bow + quiver on back and dual wield on waist) would be awesome too. Similar sets could have alternate spots to avoid clipping (like if you use two sets of dual-wield, one of them would be crossed on your back, etc...)

starkerealm · February 2015

Iago wrote: »

7.) Black soul gems should still be needed to harvest human souls, and if they don't want to make black soul gems then at least offer an in game explanation as to why the Black Soul Gems are not needed to trap human souls in the second Era but they are needed from the Third Era on.

This one is actually explained in game. You need to find one of the lore books from Galerion. It's the "Guild Memo on Soul Trapping." You can find a copy here: http://www.esohead.com/books/240-guild-memo-on-soul-trapping

The basic takeaway is that the whole Black Soul Gem system is a bit of a cheat because the soul trapping spells the Mages Guild teaches are deliberately flawed. The soul trapping spell the players get is (apparently) a byproduct of their connection to Cold Harbour, meaning it has no such limitation.

UrQuan · February 2015

starkerealm wrote: »

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Iago wrote: »

7.) Black soul gems should still be needed to harvest human souls, and if they don't want to make black soul gems then at least offer an in game explanation as to why the Black Soul Gems are not needed to trap human souls in the second Era but they are needed from the Third Era on.

This one is actually explained in game. You need to find one of the lore books from Galerion. It's the "Guild Memo on Soul Trapping." You can find a copy here: http://www.esohead.com/books/240-guild-memo-on-soul-trapping

The basic takeaway is that the whole Black Soul Gem system is a bit of a cheat because the soul trapping spells the Mages Guild teaches are deliberately flawed. The soul trapping spell the players get is (apparently) a byproduct of their connection to Cold Harbour, meaning it has no such limitation.

That's awesome. I hadn't read that particular book before. It explains it all very nicely, and in a totally plausible way IMO.

Jice · February 2015

I think I can summarize this thread for people not interested in reading too much.

"I wish ESO was Morrowwind"
- OP

Everyone put on your Nostalgia glasses and get ready to pretend an online social game is anything like a solo narrative game.

Theosis · February 2015

I got all sad and reminiscent I miss a lot of things.

enchanting my gear in chameleon robbing my neighbors blind and then putting their items in my house...

I got sad again.. I miss my house.

Blud · February 2015

1 Very rare and weird items
2 Hidden caches
3 Mark and recall

I'm not saying they are or aren't feasible in an mmorpg, but I do miss them.

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1 I miss items that were weird or had some kind of negative effect or side effect along with a positive that you had to figure out, so you could use the item.

For example, in Morrowind, The Boots of Blinding Speed. As you can imagine, they made you travel really fast, which was cool because of the plodding speed you start out at in that game. But the down side is that they blind you.

Since my character was a Breton, I had 50% magic resist. When I wore the boots, the world got very dark, but I could see where I was going. I got some magic resist items until I had 100% magic resist. Then I could use the boots to full effect. Combining that with levitation, I could fly around Morrowind. It was so much fun.

2 My favorite discovery was the vaults in Vivec. Each of the great houses had vaults there. You had to have high lock picking skill and stealth and you couldn't carry all the awesome wealth that was there. It was just too heavy. So you had to decide what to take. The armor, the sword, the gems, the weird magic items?

3 Yes, I agree that Mark and Recall were really fun and made exploring and finding special places even more exciting. I remember how awesome it was to find Azura's shrine in Morrowind and how hard it was for me to get there.

Theosis · February 2015

earliest game I played was oblivion so I never got to play morrowind.. sounds like that was awesome..

Blud · February 2015

Theosis wrote: »

earliest game I played was oblivion so I never got to play morrowind.. sounds like that was awesome..

Morrowind is still my favorite. You might not be able to handle the graphics now. They are very dated. I can handle it because of nostalgia.

But you should check out Skywind. https://tesrenewal.com/skywind-faq

UrQuan · February 2015

Blud wrote: »

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Theosis wrote: »

earliest game I played was oblivion so I never got to play morrowind.. sounds like that was awesome..

Morrowind is still my favorite. You might not be able to handle the graphics now. They are very dated. I can handle it because of nostalgia.

Quoted for truth. Even back when it came out I found Morrowind's graphics off-putting. Too much uncanny valley for me. As far as story and such, though, it was a great game.

Don't pay too much attention to people who see it through rose-coloured glasses... It wasn't nearly as perfect as a lot of people would have you believe. It was a great game though.

Iluvrien · February 2015

Things I miss from previous Elder Scrolls games...

...Vvardenfell. I really hope that we get to revisit it (although the settlements will be very different/absent) in ESO. The sooner the better!

There are other things but that is the biggest one so far.

PSLAnimal · February 2015

Lydia.

Hark, what light through yonder dungeon breaks? It is the East, and Lydia the sun! Or it would be, except she's blocking the doorway.

Ourorboros · February 2015

I miss stealing the clothes off peoples backs. It was quite amusing to watch people go about their daily business in the nude, especially guards (granted, the last point was only thru use of mods). Yes, I'm a little twisted.

newtinmpls · February 2015

No, Ourorboros you are a LOT twisted, but that's okay, you fit right in.

I loved the boots of blinding speed; that was my all-time favorite item. Next best was my totally ridiculous collection of "summon X for X-ty seconds" items that I crafted (or found). When I got into a tough dungeon (usually a tomb. Damn, I miss tombs too) I would just summon about 7-8 ghosts and so on and hang back and they would do most of the fighting.

I miss being able to crouch up super close to a door and then summon a scamp to the other room, and listen to the combat.

I miss Russola being LUMINOUS!!

And dragontail vines, and coda flowers .....

Gidorick · February 2015

DaniAngione wrote: »

I just love all the suggestions! Such nostalgia!

Though some of them would require a lot of work and effort (like housing) and some of them are (unfortunately) impossible due to game mechanics as they are (and should be for an online game), there are MANY things here that are certainly easier and quick to do
So.... Let us increase a bit of Daedric Summoning skill and call forth @ZOS_MattFiror‌ to read on this post

Also, I'd like to add another minor addition that I think would make this game so much more immersive, beautiful and a true TES experience:

WEAPON SHEATHS/SCABBARDS

Please, I hate to look like a World of Warcraft character, with unsheathed weapons hanging from my belt... Give us weapons sheaths, pretty please!?
Think about it, you could even 'sell' custom scabbards in the Crown Store (wink, wink )

And now that I mentioned it, having both our weapon sets shown at the same time (like bow + quiver on back and dual wield on waist) would be awesome too. Similar sets could have alternate spots to avoid clipping (like if you use two sets of dual-wield, one of them would be crossed on your back, etc...)

@DaniAngione‌
Please make a separate thread for your weapon sheaths/scabbards idea with the "alternate" spots for weapons so we can see them BOTH on the character. I REALLY like this idea, it should get some visibility!

EsORising · February 2015

I miss modding... If only there was a way to allow only asthetic changes at least like a werewolf with cuts all over it or a cooler looking player or ESB mods to enhance textures and lighting. Even though you would be the only one to see it; it would still create a modding community and give a better experience. Seems to complicated to allow though.

Theosis · February 2015

I also miss the different forms of magic. Alteration, Destruction, Mysticism, Illusion, conjuration... it was awesome to actually have to level each of them.

Casting the unlock spell was kick ass. Not a fan of lock picking. Even Sneaking was leveled.

jelliedsoup · February 2015

The lack of classes, like school in the summertime.